I got tired of listening to Alex Jones ranting and raving, so I switched to Alan Watt for about two years, after which I got most tired of hearing him badger listeners for money, but also noted that he said many of the same things over and over, mostly about the RIIA and the Huxleys. Of course, most of what he says is true. It’s what he doesn’t say that marks him as a spin-artist, re: Vatican and Zionism as you say. But as I pointed out, he is very much in favor of the Catholic Church and defends it, so that is the most blatant evidence. I have always felt that he had at least studied for some priesthood and it is very possible that he has some connection to one or another Catholic or even gnostic Christian order. Phelps might actually be right about him being a Jesuit coadjutor.

Freemasonry is very much a big part of the NWO though. It’s just that ALL the various orders (see listed on the front page about 300 of them) arise from the same mystery religion root.

But I agree, that we need to be more activist and political. It is just that working within the Federal system is not such a good idea since it gets us pretty much nowhere because they are on their agenda and nothing will stop it from within, by playing their game, which is why I promote the idea of secession, to just bust out from it and stand against it.

Pointing the finger just at freemasonry is just obfuscating the real facts insofar as the New World Order is concerned.
I’ll admit I don’t listen to him that much, but he seems very weak on the political science aspects in the NWO.
He mostly promulgates/discusses the psycological warfare aspects, but fails to make the proper connections, which leaves many people bewildered in the end.
In other words, if you listen to him long enough without investigating the other aspects of the NWO you’ll probably lose sight of what they’re really doing and the laws that are being enacted to accomplish their goals.

This is but an example of what I’m getting at:
The way I ascertain it is he’s has his listeners up the freemason’s ass while the Hopenhagen Climate Change Summit transpires.
The World Government then passes the law while his listeners are totally distracted by the sheer awe of the so-called unstoppable Illuminati. Which leaves his listeners inactive spectators as Walter Lippmann (advisor to President, Woodrow Wilson) would put it (and I’m Paraphrasing because I’m not sure if this is an actual quote of his since I’m unfamiliar with his work and never read any of his books.)
“He (The American people participating in a Democracy) does not know what is happening, why it is happening, what ought to happen.”
Lippman views democracy as a spectators sport for the simple fact that we are uniformed in most aspects of its function. And it is Watt’s responsibility to make sure his listeners are informed in all aspects of Government even if he doesn’t agree with certain issues. This is what he is entrusted with.
Overall I find him a distraction.

Most of the time he’s talking about symbols and signs in the entertainment industry, which is all well and good, But…..
Basically he’s got you looking over yonder when the world behind you is about to beat you upside the noggin.
He’s not well rounded enough for me, but then again few people are these days.

REUTERS Jan 3, 2010
IRAQ TO SUPPORT BLACKWATER LAWSUIT IN U.S. COURTS:

BAGHDAD (Reuters) – Iraq will help victims of the 2007 shooting of civilians in Baghdad to file a U.S. lawsuit against employees of security firm Blackwater, an incident that turned a spotlight on the United States’ use of private contractors in war zones.

Last week, a U.S. judge threw out charges against five guards accused of killing 14 Iraqi civilians at a Baghdad traffic circle, saying the defendants’ constitutional rights had been violated.

Iraq called that decision “unacceptable and unjust” and, as well as supporting a lawsuit brought by Iraqis wounded in the shooting and families of those killed, it will ask the U.S. Justice Department to review the criminal case, government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said on Sunday.

“The government will facilitate a lawsuit from Iraqi citizens to sue the guards and the company in a U.S. court,” he said.

The guards from Blackwater Worldwide, now known as Xe Services, say they shot across a crowded intersection in self-defense after hearing an explosion and gunfire.

But an Iraqi whose young son was killed in the incident said they indiscriminately fired at cars.

The shooting strained relations between Washington and Baghdad and became a symbol for many Iraqis of foreigners’ disregard for their lives.

Dabbagh said the court had “rejected the case on form, and not on its merits.”

Following the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, private guards protecting U.S. personnel were given immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts. That ended with a bilateral agreement that took effect last year.

The five guards were charged in a U.S. federal court with 14 counts of manslaughter, 20 of attempting to commit manslaughter and one weapons violation. A sixth Blackwater guard pleaded guilty to charges of voluntary manslaughter and attempting to commit manslaughter, and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

Dabbagh said Iraq was conducting an investigation into whether current or former Blackwater employees were still operating in the country, including with other firms.

He said Iraq did not want them on its soil, but did not say whether they would be expelled.

“We do not want any member of this company, which committed more than one crime in Iraq, to work in Iraq.”

In a speech to Iraq’s parliament on Sunday, lawmaker Omar al-Jubouri suggested a way the government could retaliate for the decision of the U.S. courts.

“Ask the Iraqi courts to release all the (Iraqi) defendants … sentenced to death for killing Americans in Iraq, as an act of reciprocity with the U.S. judicial system,” he said.

(Reporting by Mohammed Abbas; writing by Missy Ryan; editing by Angus MacSwan)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6020KB20100103

I must admit I know nothing about Alan Watt, and after reading what PJ has written about him, it sounds like he has caught the tail end of the universe, you know.
Besides I regard Alex Jones as a total wanker, and seeing two wankers wank it out is not a pretty sight. :D

I have sort of mulled that one for awhile. Watt has even said to callers several times that both AJ and RP are controlled opposition so it has always surprised me when he has gone on the show. Why does he go on Alex Jones when he has repeatedly condemned the “patriot business” and those who rant and rave, who “lose it” and those who etc, clearly referring to AJ as the worst of them all?

By the way AJ also has Icke and Tsarion on the show which really starts to make it a three-ring circus doesn’t it?

Of course there are those who say Alan Watt is controlled opposition too and I have kind of felt that way myself though hard to prove outright. He says some peculiar things. For example, he says he doesn’t believe in Christianity affirming the Jesus dying sun-god myth and the astro-theological nature of the Bible, yet he seems to think condescendingly (as do the secret orders) that the masses need it to keep them moral, so he is a big defender of the religion including Catholicism which he has stated is the only thing standing in the way of the NWO!

Whoa, now, if we look into the Illuminati connections of the Catholic church, some believing that the NWO is run by the Jesuits and SMOM (neither of which dares he talk much about at all), then this is cause to question AW’s motives and connections. Another thing that bothers me is that he doesn’t really try to provide any solutions and sort of leaves us hanging in this gloomy place of inevitable doom approaching.

As I have stated, I believe two sure signs of controlled opposition are 1) that you misdirect and spin regarding who is really behind the NWO, and 2) that you don’t give any real solutions and either a) give false hope or b) don’t give any hope at all which is what I feel AW does.

Anyway, besides that, he does give a hell of a lot of good info, but if he is controlled opposition then what good is it?

Another thing he did was take a lot of his info from this weirdo guy up in Canada, Glen Kealey, an Odinist who is awaiting the Ragnorak (Viking apocalypse).

Glen Kealey Alan Watt’s Inspiration?
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=53718&sid=5ef0febc4bb654d1f4e5c3f2d5884dfb

His biggest critics are at Outlaw Journalism

http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2799&sid=c4b5ae02bef1d1c72106b5f07ecaeea4

and Truth in 7 Minutes

http://www.truthin7minutes.com/controlled-opposition.php
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=17245&cmd=tc

This Markus Allan guy says that AW is lying about his situation up in Canada, that he has plenty of help, money and all the rest and has a pretty comfortable life up there with all the high tech equipment he needs, etc. But take what he says with a grain of salt too. Trust no one is the lesson unfortunately, except people that you know personally over time.

Then from the Christian perspective is another critic, Troyspace
http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/alan-watt-exposed/

And of course Eric Jon Phelps has some criticism for him too calling him another Jesuit Coajuter. But then I, you and DK all have our differences with him too as you know. Troyspace is basically a follower of Phelps, yet who seems linked up with Leo Zagami, another disinfo clown.

So basically, it’s all a big three ring circus in my opinion.

Other problems

1. On his Sep 26, 2008 show he told a caller that he knew of at least one 360 degree “Olympian”. The caller asked him to name this person and he said that he “could but I won’t”. Why won’t he name this person? After all, shouldn’t we know the Enemy?

2. Says smoking isn’t bad and is a cure or prophylactic for the effects of chemtrails

3. Guilt-trips listeners for money while saying money is bad. Always haranguing listeners for money, berating them for listening “for free” without sending in money. Money, money, money. The first 10-15 min are always consumed by money and how hard he works and slaves for us thanklessly. Sometimes he spends the entire hour on the subject.

4. Sticks up for the Catholic Church historically, saying they were the good guys against the Albegensians and the Templars trying to investigate these occultic influences with the Inquisition. Is he defending the Inquisition? Seems like it. I heard him say the Inquisition was “well-intentioned” on his Nov 26, 2008 show. Says we shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

5. Always ends with “May your god or your gods be with you”. When most of his listeners are right-wing Christians, I am surprised none of them calls him out for this pantheistic reference “your gods” which I believe comes right out of Wicca (which he by the way has admitted to being involved in at least superficially).

So is Allan Watt a confusion agent or is he merely confused? It is certainly one or the other, or could be both.

I have more on him, but enough for now.

Disagreement is always welcome to me, as long as it’s fairly civil and thus you have been, so no problem. I don’t pretend to know all the answers, but I just speak my mind as to what I do know about. Otherwise, I try to keep quiet and keep learning. I just distrust anyone with a peerage title, who is involved in Freemasonry (not that Monckton is a mason, don’t know for sure yet, but wouldn’t be surprised), who has been knighted and is a member of a Chivalric order or who are involved at the elite levels of the Catholic Church, and I think that makes sense to most who have studied the NWO to any extent. In short, no one who is officially a member of the Aristocracy should be trusted. Besides, there are a great many excellent climatologists out there like Tim Ball and Anthony Watts who are not wealthy elitists, but who are rightful leaders. It is these and others like them who should be listened to and supported. Forget the flash of lordly saviors.

The forced abdication of Edward VIII, didn’t remove the british monarchy, just made a replacement, which i guess is what Monckton is hinting at.

Anyway i think we agree fully there is no goodniks in these organisations (SMOM & Venerable order etc.) unless they work to abdicate and destroy the order.

Furthermore, i think our disagreement is more over the interpretation of the internal dynamics of the british empire establishment.

So lets agree to agree in the large, then we have the right disagree in the small.

Does Lord Monckton call for the abolition of the monarchy? Will he renounce his peerage which is subsumed under the Monarch who he must serve ultimately?

All modern British honours, including peerage dignities, are created directly by the British monarch, taking effect when letters patent are affixed with the Great Seal of the Realm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peerage

Will he withdraw from the Knights of Malta/St John?

Knights of Malta fueling both sides of the “Climate Debate” with Lord Monckton
http://truthmovement.com/?p=981

Will he denounce the Illuminati and call for an end of the New World Order? Will he castigate Baroness Thatcher as an Illuminati Bilderberger hag? Will he vilify the Vatican as a bevy of slithering vipers? Will he condemn Freemasons as the foot-soldiers of the NWO?

The answer to all the above is a resounding no! …unfortunately.

Therefore, he is controlled opposition because he supports all the above persons and institutions which are the very foundations of the NWO. If, however, he fulfills the requirements to denounce all the above (or his head is blown off on live television by SAS sharpshooters), I will first apologize to you, then forgive his errors and lend him my utmost support. (it will never happen though).

I have put forward similar demands of the royal brats William and Harry. Neither of them will renounce their titles, much less defend their own mother’s memory as a victim of an assassination by their own father. No, the royal psychopaths and their servants like Lord Monckton will go to their graves preserving this system, this Royal Masonic Matrix which is at the heart of the NWO. Like any other issue, AGW is a controlled debate.

The essence of controlled opposition boils down to this:

1. First, lead the opposition at the top levels

2. Never say who is really behind it.

3. Never give any real solutions.

4. Divide and conquer, pitting Left against Right as the phony debate.

Then you are allowed to acknowledge all the truth and facts in the world that many others already knew, but act as if you are the leader of this movement and make lots of dramatic gestures. You are in like Flint and will be the darling of the movement and enjoy intense media coverage both pro and con. And it helps if you are a British Lord of course.

Finally, I would reiterate the important fact that he was the ONE who planted the seed for the Hadley Climate Research Center (implicated in Climate Gate) as science adviser to Lady Thatcher.

I do appreciate you trying hard to defend him, but it doesn’t fly in my book. There is too much fishy business going on with him. He stinks to high heaven. Peeuwee!