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Beck: 9/11 Truthers “Insane”, “Dangerous Anarchists”, “The Kind Of Group A Timothy McVeigh Would Come From”

October 24, 2007 · 3 Comments

Media whores gone wild

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“Shhhh…don’t reveal the truth” says Beck

 

I can’t let this garbage slide on past without saying something about it. Here is yet another disgusting round of propaganda and ridiculously weak straw-man arguments from the usual suspects. They barely touch on the subject of 9/11 and yet the viewer is expected to take it for granted that they have successfully debunked the “conspiracy theory”. They completely ignore building 7 for example and I don’t blame them. If they had to try and debunk it, they would be fumbling around on very shaky ground indeed.

It is actually kind of hilarious to watch this clip. You hear Beck whining about how there could be so many millions of 9/11 truthers out there, because he’s really scared by it you see. Then Michael Shermer, the socalled “skeptic” chimes in complaining about the “power of the internet” to change people’s minds. Michael, I only wish that you were a skeptic, because then you would have been among the first to question the official story. But instead of applying a scientific approach to the problem, you have chosen to shill for the government. It is more profitable of course, so it is understandable.

Then, you hear James Meigs cry, “They have facts! they have figures! they have quotes!” and the funny thing is these guys have none of that! All they do is say, “Nope didn’t happen that way. ” or “These people are just insane” and that is the extent of their “debunking”. Then they add that we’re doing it for “fun”, which is itself a big joke. It’s really quite humorous when you really listen to what they are saying. I laughed through the whole thing, a real knee-slapper it was. In fact, they should make this into an HBO comedy special to boost ratings

Well let me tell you something seriously Glen baby. You are free to abuse your free speech right if you want to condemn yourself every time you open your whiny trap. You can call for the feds to round us up like they did with the communists, the Jews, the liberals, the Gypsies, the conservatives and others in Nazi Germany. You can claim we are insane and belong in padded cells all you want. The only problem is we are sane because we are rational and capable of thinking for ourselves. We care about and want to protect our country from creeps like you. We want peace, truth and accountability. We demand our constitutional rights back and that our sovereignty and constitutional money be restored. Ah but you, Glen Beck, want none of these things. In fact you have made a profitable career out of covering up for the government’s crimes and lies on these very subjects all along the way. You are just another media whore who has sold his soul to the almighty dollar, paid not only to cover up the truth, but to attack those who dare speak about it.

You claim we are Timothy McVeighs just waiting to bomb something, but Glen, come on, you KNOW that too was an inside job. It has been proven in spades that there were multiple bombs inside the Murrah building, so don’t go there because you’ll hurt yourself.

We will speak out in public, but we will not riot in the streets or harm others. All we want to do is exercise our right to free speech, like you for example. So, we are not anarchists or terrorists because we are non-violent and we want order in society. We just don’t want the New World Order that you are pushing every night on your propaganda show. And we are tired of all the high crimes of treason and massive epidemic of corruption at the top of government. All of which you are defending.

So Glen Beck here is the reality of the situation: We are sane, non-violent defenders of truth, justice and the American way. You, on the other hand, are a treasonous low-life accomplice and collaborator who is so close to the government that there is no essential difference between you and the Whitehouse Press Secretary. None whatsoever.

So let’s get it straight. You are not a journalist. You are a shill impersonating a journalist. You are nothing but a puppet mouthpiece of the current corrupt government. Hopefully one day you will be held accountable for it along with a few dozen other of your peers in the monopoly media. So yes, you should be scared, not of us, but of cosmic justice that will eventually catch up to you.

But Glen, you do have one redeeming quality. At least your polling figures are honest, heeheehee!! (see below)

PW

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CNN host lays into truth movement in vicious attack

Infowars | Oct 23, 2007

by Steve Watson

CNN host Glen Beck viciously attacked the 9/11 truth movement last night on his Headline Prime show, describing the whole movement as “insane” and branding 9/11 activists as “dangerous anarchists”.

Beck singled out 9/11 truthers in a segment in response to the infiltration of Real Time with Bill Maher by We Are Change protesters last week.

In a piece that we would normally associate with the “fair and balanced” Fox News, Beck featured two guests who BOTH argued against 9/11 truth, as well as throwing in his own two cents.

“These truthers are exactly the kind of people who want to rock this nation’s foundation, tear us apart and plant the seeds of dissatisfaction in all of us” Beck huffed and puffed while introducing his yes men.

At one point Beck even suggested that the 9/11 truth movement is “the kind of group a Timothy McVeigh would come from”, insinuating the movement is intent on violence.

In response his guest, Michael Shermer, the founding member of “The Skeptics Society”, a debunking body that is actually skeptical of nothing and just defends the official line on most subjects, ludicrously frothed “Yeah that’s right, that’s what makes it a little bit scary, somebody that would infiltrate a talk show like Bill Maher’s show and then heckle him during the show, that’s getting out there a little bit, that’s not just posting things on the internet for fun to see what happens, but actually going down there to do something.”

Watch it (Note: Try to ignore the remarks at the beginning of the video which was obviously posted by a neocon bootlicker):

In thousands of 9/11 protests over the course of the last six years, not one person has been arrested for violent conduct. To cart blanche suggest that the truth movement is dangerous, “a threat to children” and intent on violence is extremely inflammatory and indicates just how afraid of investigating and debating the facts people like Glen Beck actually are.

The core of the 9/11 truth movement is composed of highly educated and progressive individuals who are strictly opposed to violence and are intent on protecting a free and peaceful society which has been under dire threat ever since the attacks of 9/11 and the ensuing cover up.

Furthermore the movement represents the very antithesis of anarchism in that it is actively seeking to restore and protect our traditional form of government which has been usurped by an unaccountable cabal that continues to operate outside of Constitutional law and with little restraint using 9/11 as justification.

Naturally, Beck wheeled out the ever present James Meigs, whitewasher-in-chief at the military-industrial complex rag Popular Mechanics, which is owned by Hearst Publishing, the progenitor of the term “yellow journalism”.

Meigs is of course exactly the right man to dismiss claims of a controlled demolition on 9/11 given that he has a background in being a movie critic. Meanwhile experts in controlled demolition are visibly shaken when shown videos of building 7 and told that it came down on 9/11.

Meigs’ assertions have been thoroughly debunked, even by the bodies investigating the collapses of all three buildings. Meigs still regularly refers to the pancaking theory when describing the collapse of the twin towers, to explain how they collapsed without resistance, despite the fact that the theory was debunked by NIST itself after their study found that, “This type of assembly (the WTC steel) was capable of sustaining a large gravity load, without collapsing for a substantial period of time relative to the duration of the fires in any given location on September 11th.”

It also violates the fundamental law of physics and the Law of Conservation of Momentum, as Professor Steven Jones outlines in his research paper.

Meigs also routinely fails to acknowledge the fact that NIST’s own analysis of the WTC steel concluded that temperatures in the impact zone reached no hotter than 600 degrees, no where near hot enough to weaken the structure, according to the Final Report of the National Construction Safety Team on the Collapses of the World Trade Center Towers.

NIST admitted recently that it is STILL unable to provide an explanation for the total collapse of the twin towers, yet Mr Meigs seems assured, spending much of his time wailing about how truthers “do not fact check”.

Meigs also maintains that building 7 was severely damaged and ultimately felled by fires caused by falling debris from the towers, even though there is no evidence supporting this and NIST has been left with the only option but to probe whether the building was demolished on purpose.

Beck and his guests also maintain that the WTC “buildings”, thus including the one which was not hit by a plane, did not collapse from the bottom down. Anybody who watches the collapse of 7 can see that it falls from the bottom down, yet Beck and co. accuse others of ignoring the facts to fit their own agenda!

The three musketeers also fail to explain why first responders were told to evacuate the area because the building was going to be intentionally brought down, why police officers heard bombs tearing down the building and why a top security official who was stationed in WTC 7 witnessed bombs take out the lobby of the building before either WTC tower had collapsed.

Beck also bizarrely suggests that 12 percent of people polled believe that the government was involved in 9/11 when the actual numbers are much higher, with some polls suggesting around 80 percent.

The only accurate statement Beck makes is in suggesting that the U.S. government, or factions within it, were not competent enough to pull off 9/11 without it being discovered and ending up all over prime time news. In this he is entirely correct, it is all over prime time news, as well as prime time entertainment such as the Bill Maher show.

Finally Beck asked his viewers to back him up on this one by voting in a poll very fairly entitled Conspiracy Craziness: Anyone who believes our government could have successfully planned 9/11 is not only giving them too much credit, but they’re also insane. Do you agree or disagree?

Lets take a look at the latest results:

It seems the majority can quite clearly see where Mr Beck is wrong.

Categories: Big Media · Crime & Corruption · Operation 9/11 · Terror Psyops

3 responses so far ↓

  • dobropet // October 24, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    This sort of abuse of air time just gives us a better outlet to vent our frustration concerning the people who just don get it, and who to direct it to, Glen Bent. I for one am relieved to finally find a channel of undenying ingnorance and closemindedness in this character, how often I’ve found myself searching for the answers as to why some of the people I meet could honestly say the things that have no merit, without knowing the source, we have found the nuisance and provider of illogical information attempting to steer our bretheren down the path of self destruction and literal paid endorsements. To listen to this is like watching another episode of cheaters, you know he’s good at it cause he’s on the show! Now, let’s justify our rite to object to this blatant disregard of misinformation, from Glen Bent, by bombarding his website with fact and truth, of which he may have spam filters set up to wade through what his sponsors deem repulsive, in that instance grab a phone, or some envelopes, or his home address, and bomb away at this little little man.

  • pjwalker911 // October 25, 2007 at 1:25 am

    Bombarding his email by the millions is a good idea. Just be sure to use an unrelated concept in the subject line to avoid his spam filter. I’m not sure, but I think leaving links out of the email body would also help ensure that they get to his inbox.

    Beck is a disgusting treasonous judas goat for the right. He tells the truth on some issues, but for the most part it is pure disinfo. And this they need to learn quick if they want to be in the know.

  • Arthur Scheuerman // October 25, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    NIST did not examine the Tower’s collapses after the point of collapse initiation because after the exterior walls began buckling and the top of the buildings began tilting when the buckling spread to the core and remaining perimeter columns allowing the building top to begin falling straight down, the chaotic impacts of heavy floors and walls colliding could not possibly have been accurately predicted by even the most powerful computers. NIST only examined the collapses to the point where progressive collapse would have been inevitable and that took intense computer work.

    Those WTC Tower buildings were built with long span, bar joist floor trusses which can collapse into catenaries (cables in suspension) from the expansion effects of heat on the steel truss components. Steel expands immediately when heated. NIST found that the differential expansion effects between the composite steel and concrete in the floors causes separation of the concrete and steel trusses and buckling of the diagonal struts in the trusses. This catenary effect starts at low temperatures of 400 C to 500 C before the steel itself even begins to weaken. Expansion of the floor trusses against the columns assists their collapse. This collapse the trusses into catenaries over several floors along with the additional ‘thermal bowing’ effect in some of the trusses, caused ‘pull-in’ forces on the exterior wall columns. Thermal bowing is caused by the bottom chords of the trusses expanding faster than the top. This allows the top chord to go into suspension exerting immediate increasing ‘pull-in’ forces on the exterior walls. Photos taken by the Police helicopters showed the exterior column walls in the Towers to be bowing inward, on the long span sides of both buildings well before the buildings started to collapse.

    Added to the thermal weakness of the ‘long span’ trusses present in the Tower’s design was the absence of diagonal bracing in the core, the weak column splices in both the perimeter and core columns, one bolt connections of the truss to core columns, missing bolts in the exterior column splices, large open areas allowing extensive fire growth and enabling large areas of the buildings to be affected by heat, weak plaster board enclosures for stairways and elevator shafts, etc., etc.

    Building 7 had all the same deficiencies present in the Towers except that the bar joist, trusses were replaced with long span I beams. There were large growing fires on several floors as well as damage from the exterior columns of Tower 1 which pealed away during its collapse and hit the southwest corner and the middle of the south side of building 7, gouging out large sections. In addition to this damage, there were problems with water supply and the Fire Department decided not to fight these fires and ordered every one out of the building and out of the collapse zone (which was a large area including buildings and streets around building 7) as is the procedure when discontinuing interior firefighting operations at an uncontrolled fire with the possibility of collapse. The anticipation of collapse was a brilliant conclusion and no lives were lost when the 47 story building collapsed about an hour and a half after the evacuation order was given. The BBC somehow misheard the orders to evacuate the collapse zone and reported the building had already collapsed well before it actually did.

    If you want to know how and why the WTC buildings collapsed read my book “Fire in the Skyscraper” available at Amazon.com.

    Arthur Scheuerman,
    Retired Battalion Chief, FDNY

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