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		<title>By: Mason_Libertarian</title>
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		<description>Meant to say Lodges only &quot;communicate&quot; in the first sentence. Probably not the only mistake, not trying to write a dissertation. However, no peer reviewed substantive dissertation exists that controverts my argument. Why is that? Why is it that in the known body of Masonic Philosophy (that wasn&#039;t lost in Alexandria or anywhere else) there is not a single book, written by Masons that has anything to do with conspiracy or new world order. The Founder of the Scottish Rite may be instructive to you in this regard.

&quot;It is quite true that Government tends always to become a conspiracy against liberty; or, where votes give place, to fall habitually into such hands that little which is noble or chivalric is found among those who rule and lead the people.  It is true that men, in this present age, become distinguished for other things, and may have name and fame, and flatterers and lacqueys, and the oblation of flattery, who would, in a knightly age, have been despised for the want in them of all true gentility and courage; and that such men are as likely as any to be voted for by the multitude, who rarely love or discern or receive truth; who run after fortune, who love accusation and hate apologies; and who are always glad to hear and ready to believe evil of those who care not for their favor and seek not their applause.&quot;

Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma - 1871

Read Masonic Philosophy at this level, and you will abandon this folly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant to say Lodges only &#8220;communicate&#8221; in the first sentence. Probably not the only mistake, not trying to write a dissertation. However, no peer reviewed substantive dissertation exists that controverts my argument. Why is that? Why is it that in the known body of Masonic Philosophy (that wasn&#8217;t lost in Alexandria or anywhere else) there is not a single book, written by Masons that has anything to do with conspiracy or new world order. The Founder of the Scottish Rite may be instructive to you in this regard.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is quite true that Government tends always to become a conspiracy against liberty; or, where votes give place, to fall habitually into such hands that little which is noble or chivalric is found among those who rule and lead the people.  It is true that men, in this present age, become distinguished for other things, and may have name and fame, and flatterers and lacqueys, and the oblation of flattery, who would, in a knightly age, have been despised for the want in them of all true gentility and courage; and that such men are as likely as any to be voted for by the multitude, who rarely love or discern or receive truth; who run after fortune, who love accusation and hate apologies; and who are always glad to hear and ready to believe evil of those who care not for their favor and seek not their applause.&#8221;</p>
<p>Albert Pike &#8211; Morals and Dogma &#8211; 1871</p>
<p>Read Masonic Philosophy at this level, and you will abandon this folly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mason_Libertarian</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no Masonic conspiracy. The Grand Lodges of the States and recognized Masonic Lodges in other nations only to introduce some traveling member who wishes to attend Lodge in the country. In the U.S. that&#039;s not necessary, and often not necessary outside the U.S. if a member of that Lodge will simply attend with you. Otherwise, there is no internal conversation, no mechanisms for implementing any agenda. 

The foundational tenets of Freemasonry preclude an conflict of interest between Masonic loyalty and the loyalty one owes to family, community, state and nation. There&#039;s no loyalty to the &quot;WORLD.&quot; Freemasonry simply seeks to make good men better through the highly philosophical morality allegorical catechism. Ritual is where any resemblance between Freemasonry and Jesuits ends. A Jesuit can&#039;t openly be a freemason, and their lives are so cloistered it would be impossible to conduct any Masonic fellowship in private. This whole conspiracy theory is utterly bankrupt and underwritten radical Christian fundamentalism that views everything outside of its dogma as evil; if there&#039;s a conspiracy it is the agenda of hate and ignorance spewed by that lot. 

The symbols at Georgetown University are not Masonic. They regard the study of Law, Justice, and Social Science, etc. There&#039;s no Compass there, and the Square has been adopted by American jurisprudence, as has the gavel, from Freemason symbols because Masonry is itself egalitarian. In the Lodge Ron Paul, if he were a Mason, is just a Mason, nothing more. Politics, Religion, and Sex cannot be discussed in the Lodge, and are therefore taboo among all but Mason who just happen to otherwise be friends. 

I wish Ron Paul were a Mason. I respect the man, but his notion that the United States can remain secure and not intervene is childish. I wish it were that simple. Sometime in the next two years we will intervene and dismantle Iran&#039;s nuclear program, or Israel will do it- and WHEN that happens it will ignite the most enduring and lethal conflict the world has ever known, all because there hasn’t been and administration since WWII willing to do what is necessary to decisively disabuse threatening regimes, strangle them in the crib, scorch the ground they live upon. Like Sherman going to Atlanta. If we don&#039;t intervene Israel will not be all that is lost. The intersecting collective human prescience regarding the year 2012 is not happenstance. It is synchronicity. It is a collective intuitive apprehension that the potential for cataclysm exists.  

When George H. W. Bush used the expression, &quot;new world order&quot; he was simply referring to the end of the bi-polar Cold War contest, and the advent of a broader-based global socio-economic system. That is a new world order to be sure. The entire thesis that America now intends to implement a NWO in its own image, as the world&#039;s only superpower, is rubbish. Americans want to be left alone. But we have something that must be dismantled in order for 12th century regressive radicalized and genocidal tyrants and regimes to exist into the next century.  

Look, I actually have an advanced education and 40 years of experience in world affairs. I know what I&#039;m talking about. I&#039;ve been a Mason since 1987, and a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Mason since 1989. I&#039;ve been to The House of The Temple at 1733, 16th Street many times. Many Presidents have been Masons and even 33rd Degree Masons, such as Ford, and H. Truman. George Washington was a Mason, but I&#039;m sure that&#039;s somehow incorporated into your conspiracy theory. 

If you want to understand what is really happening in America read &quot;Bowling Alone,&quot; if you did that and actually comprehended the material you would get down on your knees and pray for a resurgence of Masonry and more importantly; a Judeo-Christian spirituality based body politick in America, and everywhere else in the world. Because the original intent ideology implemented by the Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, and the Constitution have been inculcated in Masons from an unknowable antiquity, which itself is based on egalitarian Monotheism.  

It&#039;s not a world craft, not statecraft, spy craft - it is the crafting of men who are by nature inclined to engage their community, and affairs greater than themselves to the betterment of all humankind – or they wouldn’t have been attracted to Freemasonry enough to call themselves Masons for life. If Jon Paul were a Mason it would be no secret. There is no John Galt in Freemasonry; there are just individual, independent, state sovereign intuitions of Freemasonry. 

Please, grow up and get involved. Stop wasting your minds on this nonsense and engage the body politic- or you will lose your Country - and not to Masons, but to the tyranny you, as a nation, have brought upon yourselves in your willful ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no Masonic conspiracy. The Grand Lodges of the States and recognized Masonic Lodges in other nations only to introduce some traveling member who wishes to attend Lodge in the country. In the U.S. that&#8217;s not necessary, and often not necessary outside the U.S. if a member of that Lodge will simply attend with you. Otherwise, there is no internal conversation, no mechanisms for implementing any agenda. </p>
<p>The foundational tenets of Freemasonry preclude an conflict of interest between Masonic loyalty and the loyalty one owes to family, community, state and nation. There&#8217;s no loyalty to the &#8220;WORLD.&#8221; Freemasonry simply seeks to make good men better through the highly philosophical morality allegorical catechism. Ritual is where any resemblance between Freemasonry and Jesuits ends. A Jesuit can&#8217;t openly be a freemason, and their lives are so cloistered it would be impossible to conduct any Masonic fellowship in private. This whole conspiracy theory is utterly bankrupt and underwritten radical Christian fundamentalism that views everything outside of its dogma as evil; if there&#8217;s a conspiracy it is the agenda of hate and ignorance spewed by that lot. </p>
<p>The symbols at Georgetown University are not Masonic. They regard the study of Law, Justice, and Social Science, etc. There&#8217;s no Compass there, and the Square has been adopted by American jurisprudence, as has the gavel, from Freemason symbols because Masonry is itself egalitarian. In the Lodge Ron Paul, if he were a Mason, is just a Mason, nothing more. Politics, Religion, and Sex cannot be discussed in the Lodge, and are therefore taboo among all but Mason who just happen to otherwise be friends. </p>
<p>I wish Ron Paul were a Mason. I respect the man, but his notion that the United States can remain secure and not intervene is childish. I wish it were that simple. Sometime in the next two years we will intervene and dismantle Iran&#8217;s nuclear program, or Israel will do it- and WHEN that happens it will ignite the most enduring and lethal conflict the world has ever known, all because there hasn’t been and administration since WWII willing to do what is necessary to decisively disabuse threatening regimes, strangle them in the crib, scorch the ground they live upon. Like Sherman going to Atlanta. If we don&#8217;t intervene Israel will not be all that is lost. The intersecting collective human prescience regarding the year 2012 is not happenstance. It is synchronicity. It is a collective intuitive apprehension that the potential for cataclysm exists.  </p>
<p>When George H. W. Bush used the expression, &#8220;new world order&#8221; he was simply referring to the end of the bi-polar Cold War contest, and the advent of a broader-based global socio-economic system. That is a new world order to be sure. The entire thesis that America now intends to implement a NWO in its own image, as the world&#8217;s only superpower, is rubbish. Americans want to be left alone. But we have something that must be dismantled in order for 12th century regressive radicalized and genocidal tyrants and regimes to exist into the next century.  </p>
<p>Look, I actually have an advanced education and 40 years of experience in world affairs. I know what I&#8217;m talking about. I&#8217;ve been a Mason since 1987, and a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Mason since 1989. I&#8217;ve been to The House of The Temple at 1733, 16th Street many times. Many Presidents have been Masons and even 33rd Degree Masons, such as Ford, and H. Truman. George Washington was a Mason, but I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s somehow incorporated into your conspiracy theory. </p>
<p>If you want to understand what is really happening in America read &#8220;Bowling Alone,&#8221; if you did that and actually comprehended the material you would get down on your knees and pray for a resurgence of Masonry and more importantly; a Judeo-Christian spirituality based body politick in America, and everywhere else in the world. Because the original intent ideology implemented by the Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, and the Constitution have been inculcated in Masons from an unknowable antiquity, which itself is based on egalitarian Monotheism.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a world craft, not statecraft, spy craft &#8211; it is the crafting of men who are by nature inclined to engage their community, and affairs greater than themselves to the betterment of all humankind – or they wouldn’t have been attracted to Freemasonry enough to call themselves Masons for life. If Jon Paul were a Mason it would be no secret. There is no John Galt in Freemasonry; there are just individual, independent, state sovereign intuitions of Freemasonry. </p>
<p>Please, grow up and get involved. Stop wasting your minds on this nonsense and engage the body politic- or you will lose your Country &#8211; and not to Masons, but to the tyranny you, as a nation, have brought upon yourselves in your willful ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: pjwalker911</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self,

It&#039;s just a fictional example of how cults, which become religions, can be created for social control. I really don&#039;t give a damn what the rest of the book says. I gave you a real world example in William Sims Bainbridge who is a top social engineer with the National Science Foundation. Not good enough for you? I will add more examples when I find the time, much to the chagrin of those who love being controlled and lied to by the myth-makers.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s just a fictional example of how cults, which become religions, can be created for social control. I really don&#8217;t give a damn what the rest of the book says. I gave you a real world example in William Sims Bainbridge who is a top social engineer with the National Science Foundation. Not good enough for you? I will add more examples when I find the time, much to the chagrin of those who love being controlled and lied to by the myth-makers.</p>
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		<title>By: Self</title>
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		<dc:creator>Self</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny how you use the Dune quote to try and disprove religion. You must not have read the rest of the book.

I find it highly disturbing that Ron Paul is quite likely a freemason, and the 180 day amendment to HR1207 makes it that much more unsettling. We may not have 180 days at this rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how you use the Dune quote to try and disprove religion. You must not have read the rest of the book.</p>
<p>I find it highly disturbing that Ron Paul is quite likely a freemason, and the 180 day amendment to HR1207 makes it that much more unsettling. We may not have 180 days at this rate.</p>
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		<title>By: pjwalker911</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really the key to religion as I have been trying to explain to Christians to no avail. This is how culture and religion are operated on the unsuspecting populace who are not privy to the secrets of the Matrix masters, ie the Illuminati. An example is given in Herbert&#039;s Dune:

&lt;strong&gt;Missionaria Protectiva&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;em&gt;The Bene Gesserit practice &quot;religious engineering&quot; through a faction called the Missionaria Protectiva, which spreads contrived myths, prophecies and superstition (collectively known as Panoplia Prophetica) among the populations of the Empire. A Bene Gesserit may then later take advantage of the prophecies, casting herself as a guide, protector, or some other figure in fulfillment of the prophecy, in order to manipulate the religious subjects for protection or other purposes. These myths also exploit religion as a powerful force in human society; by controlling the particulars of religion, the Bene Gesserit have a manipulative lever on society in general.&lt;/em&gt;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_gesserit#Missionaria_Protectiva

Myths are created first to set up authority, ie &quot;God and His Son&quot;. Can&#039;t get any higher authority than that can we? But the fact of the matter is that these myths are as old as the hills, and yet when you investigate them, whether it is Tammuz, or Horus or Dionysus, or Mithras (Myths-R-Us!), Apollo, Orpheus, Baccus, Attis or any one of the hundreds of &quot;Sons of God&quot; from the beginning of recorded history, you find there is no historical basis for any of them. But along comes another &quot;Son of God&quot; at the end of a long line of mythological &quot;Sons of God&quot;, and now we are supposed to believe that out of all these mythological messiahs, this one, Jesus, now he is the real McCoy, the others being mere cheap imitations. 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;It is time to move beyond mere observation of scientistic cults and use the knowledge we have gained of recruitment strategies, cultural innovation, and social needs to create better religions than the world currently possesses. At the very least, unobtrusive observation must be supplemented by active experimentation. Religions are human creations. Our society quite consciously tries to improve every other kind of social institution, why not religion? Members of The Process, founded mainly by students from an architecture school, referred to the creation of their cult as religious engineering, the conscious, systematic, skilled creation of a new religion. I propose that we become religious engineers.&quot;  &lt;/em&gt;

- William Sims Bainbridge, &quot;New Religions, Science, and Secularization&quot;, in Religion and the Social Order, 1993

If you don&#039;t believe that &quot;religious engineeing&quot; goes on and has gone on for thousands of years, that it uses myths and prophecies to manipulate the mind, then what is this? 

I recommend serious students of the NWO to research this character Bainbridge for an understanding of the unbroken line of religious engineers from the time of the Sumerians, who continue to con the public even now thousands of years later.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Techniques such as genetic engineering, psychoactive drugs and electronic control of the brain make possible a transformation of the species into docile, fully-obedient, &quot;safe&quot; organisms. &quot;
&lt;/em&gt;
- William Sims Bainbridge, in Religions for a Galactic Civilization, Paper given at the Nineteenth Goddard Memorial Symposium of the American Astronautical Society, Pentagon City, Virginia, March 26-27, 1981.  

The purpose of social and religious engineering is to control people. Sheep being led by shepherds. The sheep are not allowed to know how this works and are only left to believe what they are fed by preachers and priests, same as they believe the media, the government and the educational system. Granted, many Christians these days are pretty hip to the NWO. But they only take their understanding just so far and then stop.

Of course, what I get from Christians is &quot;well, yes okay, there is religious engineering for all religions except mine. My religion is the true religion while all the others are engineered by the Illuminati.&quot; 

Coming to such conclusion requires that the person&#039;s mind is locked down, ie controlled. Therefore, I say to any Christian who claims to be against the NWO, you are fooling yourself. Anything less than the totality, the big picture, will make a person fall back into serving the agenda, directly or indirectly. Ultimately, you are expecting, as many generations before you did, that the anti-Christ is coming, that tribulation is coming, and at the end of it all, Jesus will finally come back and take care of business. Thus the whole NWO plan is seen as INEVITABLE. Cui Bono?

&lt;em&gt;&quot;the Missionaria Protectiva, which spreads contrived myths, prophecies and superstition (collectively known as Panoplia Prophetica) among the populations of the Empire. A Bene Gesserit may then later take advantage of the prophecies&quot;. 
&lt;/em&gt;
This is how it is done. 

Therefore, I look at religions generally as mind-control cults which are carefully designed to scare the shit out of people, generally crushed between a rock and a hard-place between fear of Hell and Fear of God. This Fear then is exploited to herd the sheep-like humans down a predetermined &quot;inevitable&quot; path of history. This is an unchangeable TELEOLOGY wrapped tightly in endless circular arguments wherein, if you question its basis, you are automatically in league with the Devil and to be disregarded, much in the same way that people who question the government are labeled as &quot;conspiracy theorists&quot; to dismiss them.

So yes I do equate Christianity with Mormonism. They are not exactly the same, but they are both dying god cults. If you think about it, Christianity is a cannibalistic pagan Solar death cult that worships a dying god/human sacrifice on a cross (one of many that preceded him), and as is prescribed by Jesus, the supplicants are to eat of his body and drink of his blood. They are also reminded to &quot;Give unto Caesar&quot; and to view good rulers as sent by God as a reward and evil rulers as sent by God as punishment and chastisement. So you see, according to the Bible, we are all being punished by God through the Illuminati, the evil rulers. Who benefits? 

And of course, we are told that from day one in the Garden that man is a sinner, fallen from God&#039;s good graces, and must forever toil and suffer for it on Earth. Lucifer was a good boy until he too fell out of favor and was cast down to, of all places, the bowels of the Earth, from whence he becomes pretty much the defacto ruler of the World. So we are not only punished by this God for being sinners, but also punished by his fallen angels (The Illuminati) who rule over us. And then we are supposed to believe that, though God would have the power to set things right on Earth, he is just biding his time until he feels like sending His Son back down to clean up the town. I mean, this is only the tip of the iceberg of ridiculousness that human beings have been conditioned to believe for centuries. I personally cannot see why they do, except that they are in such abject terror that they cannot dare to even begin to question what they believe. Precisely what the religion was designed to do to them.

I&#039;ll get to the KJV and Lord Bacon soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really the key to religion as I have been trying to explain to Christians to no avail. This is how culture and religion are operated on the unsuspecting populace who are not privy to the secrets of the Matrix masters, ie the Illuminati. An example is given in Herbert&#8217;s Dune:</p>
<p><strong>Missionaria Protectiva</strong></p>
<p><em>The Bene Gesserit practice &#8220;religious engineering&#8221; through a faction called the Missionaria Protectiva, which spreads contrived myths, prophecies and superstition (collectively known as Panoplia Prophetica) among the populations of the Empire. A Bene Gesserit may then later take advantage of the prophecies, casting herself as a guide, protector, or some other figure in fulfillment of the prophecy, in order to manipulate the religious subjects for protection or other purposes. These myths also exploit religion as a powerful force in human society; by controlling the particulars of religion, the Bene Gesserit have a manipulative lever on society in general.</em><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_gesserit#Missionaria_Protectiva" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_gesserit#Missionaria_Protectiva</a></p>
<p>Myths are created first to set up authority, ie &#8220;God and His Son&#8221;. Can&#8217;t get any higher authority than that can we? But the fact of the matter is that these myths are as old as the hills, and yet when you investigate them, whether it is Tammuz, or Horus or Dionysus, or Mithras (Myths-R-Us!), Apollo, Orpheus, Baccus, Attis or any one of the hundreds of &#8220;Sons of God&#8221; from the beginning of recorded history, you find there is no historical basis for any of them. But along comes another &#8220;Son of God&#8221; at the end of a long line of mythological &#8220;Sons of God&#8221;, and now we are supposed to believe that out of all these mythological messiahs, this one, Jesus, now he is the real McCoy, the others being mere cheap imitations. </p>
<p><em>&#8220;It is time to move beyond mere observation of scientistic cults and use the knowledge we have gained of recruitment strategies, cultural innovation, and social needs to create better religions than the world currently possesses. At the very least, unobtrusive observation must be supplemented by active experimentation. Religions are human creations. Our society quite consciously tries to improve every other kind of social institution, why not religion? Members of The Process, founded mainly by students from an architecture school, referred to the creation of their cult as religious engineering, the conscious, systematic, skilled creation of a new religion. I propose that we become religious engineers.&#8221;  </em></p>
<p>- William Sims Bainbridge, &#8220;New Religions, Science, and Secularization&#8221;, in Religion and the Social Order, 1993</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t believe that &#8220;religious engineeing&#8221; goes on and has gone on for thousands of years, that it uses myths and prophecies to manipulate the mind, then what is this? </p>
<p>I recommend serious students of the NWO to research this character Bainbridge for an understanding of the unbroken line of religious engineers from the time of the Sumerians, who continue to con the public even now thousands of years later.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Techniques such as genetic engineering, psychoactive drugs and electronic control of the brain make possible a transformation of the species into docile, fully-obedient, &#8220;safe&#8221; organisms. &#8221;<br />
</em><br />
- William Sims Bainbridge, in Religions for a Galactic Civilization, Paper given at the Nineteenth Goddard Memorial Symposium of the American Astronautical Society, Pentagon City, Virginia, March 26-27, 1981.  </p>
<p>The purpose of social and religious engineering is to control people. Sheep being led by shepherds. The sheep are not allowed to know how this works and are only left to believe what they are fed by preachers and priests, same as they believe the media, the government and the educational system. Granted, many Christians these days are pretty hip to the NWO. But they only take their understanding just so far and then stop.</p>
<p>Of course, what I get from Christians is &#8220;well, yes okay, there is religious engineering for all religions except mine. My religion is the true religion while all the others are engineered by the Illuminati.&#8221; </p>
<p>Coming to such conclusion requires that the person&#8217;s mind is locked down, ie controlled. Therefore, I say to any Christian who claims to be against the NWO, you are fooling yourself. Anything less than the totality, the big picture, will make a person fall back into serving the agenda, directly or indirectly. Ultimately, you are expecting, as many generations before you did, that the anti-Christ is coming, that tribulation is coming, and at the end of it all, Jesus will finally come back and take care of business. Thus the whole NWO plan is seen as INEVITABLE. Cui Bono?</p>
<p><em>&#8220;the Missionaria Protectiva, which spreads contrived myths, prophecies and superstition (collectively known as Panoplia Prophetica) among the populations of the Empire. A Bene Gesserit may then later take advantage of the prophecies&#8221;.<br />
</em><br />
This is how it is done. </p>
<p>Therefore, I look at religions generally as mind-control cults which are carefully designed to scare the shit out of people, generally crushed between a rock and a hard-place between fear of Hell and Fear of God. This Fear then is exploited to herd the sheep-like humans down a predetermined &#8220;inevitable&#8221; path of history. This is an unchangeable TELEOLOGY wrapped tightly in endless circular arguments wherein, if you question its basis, you are automatically in league with the Devil and to be disregarded, much in the same way that people who question the government are labeled as &#8220;conspiracy theorists&#8221; to dismiss them.</p>
<p>So yes I do equate Christianity with Mormonism. They are not exactly the same, but they are both dying god cults. If you think about it, Christianity is a cannibalistic pagan Solar death cult that worships a dying god/human sacrifice on a cross (one of many that preceded him), and as is prescribed by Jesus, the supplicants are to eat of his body and drink of his blood. They are also reminded to &#8220;Give unto Caesar&#8221; and to view good rulers as sent by God as a reward and evil rulers as sent by God as punishment and chastisement. So you see, according to the Bible, we are all being punished by God through the Illuminati, the evil rulers. Who benefits? </p>
<p>And of course, we are told that from day one in the Garden that man is a sinner, fallen from God&#8217;s good graces, and must forever toil and suffer for it on Earth. Lucifer was a good boy until he too fell out of favor and was cast down to, of all places, the bowels of the Earth, from whence he becomes pretty much the defacto ruler of the World. So we are not only punished by this God for being sinners, but also punished by his fallen angels (The Illuminati) who rule over us. And then we are supposed to believe that, though God would have the power to set things right on Earth, he is just biding his time until he feels like sending His Son back down to clean up the town. I mean, this is only the tip of the iceberg of ridiculousness that human beings have been conditioned to believe for centuries. I personally cannot see why they do, except that they are in such abject terror that they cannot dare to even begin to question what they believe. Precisely what the religion was designed to do to them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll get to the KJV and Lord Bacon soon.</p>
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		<title>By: pjwalker911</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louis Turner,

Before we go on, I want to set some things straight:

First, I consider myself a truthseeker and nothing else. I don&#039;t have an agenda other than that except to see that, out of truth, the world (ar at least my corner of the world) may be set free.

Secondly, I am not here to defend secret societies. My mission is only to expose them and the secrets they have been hiding for centuries if not longer. So for example, if I say Bacon was editor of KJV, I don&#039;t say it for the same reasons that Rosicrucians do, taking credit and promoting Bacon as one of their own. That&#039;s what they do, but I sincerely believe KJV was part of a Rosicrucian propaganda campaign that included the Shakespeare works, the revision of the English language to make it lingua franca for the world and the promotion of the Protestant Reformation which I believe was the outer expression of the Rosicrucian Reformation, like a black op behind the official program.

Third, while I am not here to attack Christian believers, I personally do not believe in Christian religion or the Bible. I have tried for years to see why anyone would embrace it and wanted to believe, but after a long period of study and reflection, I came to the conclusion that not only Christianity, but all religion is mind-control. I am not a gnostic nor do I consider myself an atheist. I do not believe in or belong to any group, political party, cult, religion or secret order. I guess I am something in between, for which there is no label other than &quot;spiritual&quot; but because that word is so utterly abused, I prefer not to use that either. Truth seeker best describes me. 

So, even though I allow Christians to freely express their beliefs here, I also ask that others accept my free expression of what I sincerely believe to be the facts. If someone can&#039;t handle that and feels they have to start attacking me, then it would be best if they go eslewhere because I don&#039;t have a lot of time, energy or patience for that sort of thing. 

I really don&#039;t mind if people disagree with me as long as it seems to be sincere, respectful and not an attack. As soon as it looks like I am coming under attack, I suspect an agenda, and such agendas are carried out by both irrational fanatics and by deliberate disinfo ops which are constantly being mounted against this site especially by Masons and various members of the Knighthoods. I know this because some of them are not afraid to reveal themselves directly, and many reveal themselves by what they say, such as someone who claims Albert Pike or Aleister Crowley were admirable in some way. Immediately you know that first, they know something about the secret societies, and secondly that they are propagandizing for them which simple deduction shows what they are in reality.

In other words, I value a gentlemanly debate with sincere people because it forces me to back up my claims, but I despise those who just come just to attack in an attempt to spin, discredit and debunk. There is a big difference between the two.

The final thing that I ask is that if someone disagrees, that they simply state, &quot;I disagree and here is why.&quot; Or, if they say, &quot;You say such and such. What is your source for that?&quot; Then I am only too happy to try to answer that. I don&#039;t feel that in comments that I have to give sources for everything I say, unless specifically asked to do so on a specific topic. Footnotes are for books and articles, not necessarily for informal discussion.

Now, if you give me a a little time, I will attempt to respond to some of your disagreements over the next few days. The reason for this is that I don&#039;t have a lot of spare time to work on this blog. I do try to respond to as many comments as possible though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis Turner,</p>
<p>Before we go on, I want to set some things straight:</p>
<p>First, I consider myself a truthseeker and nothing else. I don&#8217;t have an agenda other than that except to see that, out of truth, the world (ar at least my corner of the world) may be set free.</p>
<p>Secondly, I am not here to defend secret societies. My mission is only to expose them and the secrets they have been hiding for centuries if not longer. So for example, if I say Bacon was editor of KJV, I don&#8217;t say it for the same reasons that Rosicrucians do, taking credit and promoting Bacon as one of their own. That&#8217;s what they do, but I sincerely believe KJV was part of a Rosicrucian propaganda campaign that included the Shakespeare works, the revision of the English language to make it lingua franca for the world and the promotion of the Protestant Reformation which I believe was the outer expression of the Rosicrucian Reformation, like a black op behind the official program.</p>
<p>Third, while I am not here to attack Christian believers, I personally do not believe in Christian religion or the Bible. I have tried for years to see why anyone would embrace it and wanted to believe, but after a long period of study and reflection, I came to the conclusion that not only Christianity, but all religion is mind-control. I am not a gnostic nor do I consider myself an atheist. I do not believe in or belong to any group, political party, cult, religion or secret order. I guess I am something in between, for which there is no label other than &#8220;spiritual&#8221; but because that word is so utterly abused, I prefer not to use that either. Truth seeker best describes me. </p>
<p>So, even though I allow Christians to freely express their beliefs here, I also ask that others accept my free expression of what I sincerely believe to be the facts. If someone can&#8217;t handle that and feels they have to start attacking me, then it would be best if they go eslewhere because I don&#8217;t have a lot of time, energy or patience for that sort of thing. </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t mind if people disagree with me as long as it seems to be sincere, respectful and not an attack. As soon as it looks like I am coming under attack, I suspect an agenda, and such agendas are carried out by both irrational fanatics and by deliberate disinfo ops which are constantly being mounted against this site especially by Masons and various members of the Knighthoods. I know this because some of them are not afraid to reveal themselves directly, and many reveal themselves by what they say, such as someone who claims Albert Pike or Aleister Crowley were admirable in some way. Immediately you know that first, they know something about the secret societies, and secondly that they are propagandizing for them which simple deduction shows what they are in reality.</p>
<p>In other words, I value a gentlemanly debate with sincere people because it forces me to back up my claims, but I despise those who just come just to attack in an attempt to spin, discredit and debunk. There is a big difference between the two.</p>
<p>The final thing that I ask is that if someone disagrees, that they simply state, &#8220;I disagree and here is why.&#8221; Or, if they say, &#8220;You say such and such. What is your source for that?&#8221; Then I am only too happy to try to answer that. I don&#8217;t feel that in comments that I have to give sources for everything I say, unless specifically asked to do so on a specific topic. Footnotes are for books and articles, not necessarily for informal discussion.</p>
<p>Now, if you give me a a little time, I will attempt to respond to some of your disagreements over the next few days. The reason for this is that I don&#8217;t have a lot of spare time to work on this blog. I do try to respond to as many comments as possible though.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Turner</title>
		<link>http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/ron-paul-and-freemasonry/#comment-86883</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pjwalker911, I guess we can agree to disagree on some issues and you seem to be quite intelligent which impresses me. You should not equate Mormonism with Christianity. They are quite polar opposites like other religions. The difference between Christianity and Religion is between “Do” and “Done;” between a Religion and a Relationship. And the attack on the King James Bible sound familiar and is easily refuted by clicking on a link on my Blog called, “Defense of King James.” Here is a quote from watch.pair. It’s quite a long read but if you have the time its well worth it:

“The following audio programs are presentations by Barbara Aho which were made shortly after the release of “The Secret Mysteries of America&#039;s Beginnings” Video by Cutting Edge Ministries.  The audios present much evidence refuting the false claims made by David Bay of Cutting Edge that King James I of England conspired with Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians to transform the 1611 King James Version into “a Rosicrucian Bible which would reverberate with Satanic power every second of every day, a sacred book which would gradually move the peoples of the world into practicing that ‘Mystic Christianity’, Rosicrucianism.”  Following the audio programs is evidence that David Bay and Cutting Edge have planned all along to discredit, not only the KJV, but all English Bibles as Rosicrucian works.”

You can also google many of these issues of the net and get half decent responses sometimes. The important thing is to ask yourself is, “What is the total outcome out of all this? Will it help me or hurt me?”

Thanks again for your Article and input though. Regardless if you change your position or not on some main issues, we can still agree that we hate the New World Order. People just need to understand that The Bible is not our enemy – it’s our Government! Take care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pjwalker911, I guess we can agree to disagree on some issues and you seem to be quite intelligent which impresses me. You should not equate Mormonism with Christianity. They are quite polar opposites like other religions. The difference between Christianity and Religion is between “Do” and “Done;” between a Religion and a Relationship. And the attack on the King James Bible sound familiar and is easily refuted by clicking on a link on my Blog called, “Defense of King James.” Here is a quote from watch.pair. It’s quite a long read but if you have the time its well worth it:</p>
<p>“The following audio programs are presentations by Barbara Aho which were made shortly after the release of “The Secret Mysteries of America&#8217;s Beginnings” Video by Cutting Edge Ministries.  The audios present much evidence refuting the false claims made by David Bay of Cutting Edge that King James I of England conspired with Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians to transform the 1611 King James Version into “a Rosicrucian Bible which would reverberate with Satanic power every second of every day, a sacred book which would gradually move the peoples of the world into practicing that ‘Mystic Christianity’, Rosicrucianism.”  Following the audio programs is evidence that David Bay and Cutting Edge have planned all along to discredit, not only the KJV, but all English Bibles as Rosicrucian works.”</p>
<p>You can also google many of these issues of the net and get half decent responses sometimes. The important thing is to ask yourself is, “What is the total outcome out of all this? Will it help me or hurt me?”</p>
<p>Thanks again for your Article and input though. Regardless if you change your position or not on some main issues, we can still agree that we hate the New World Order. People just need to understand that The Bible is not our enemy – it’s our Government! Take care!</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Turner</title>
		<link>http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/ron-paul-and-freemasonry/#comment-86882</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pjwalker911 Thanks for the compliment. I’m glad I was able to contribute to this post. Thanks for the info also. Bloodlines are very important to check. The same old crud keeps rising to the top year after year. Its good to see that most folks in here are united instead of divided. Learning the facets of global conspiracy can be time consuming and if people would take the time to thoroughly study their ideas and be open to other avenues they just might find out that they are saying the same thing as the other fellow that disagrees with them. Thanks again for visiting nocentsatall.blogspot.com and I’ll be sure to return here again in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pjwalker911 Thanks for the compliment. I’m glad I was able to contribute to this post. Thanks for the info also. Bloodlines are very important to check. The same old crud keeps rising to the top year after year. Its good to see that most folks in here are united instead of divided. Learning the facets of global conspiracy can be time consuming and if people would take the time to thoroughly study their ideas and be open to other avenues they just might find out that they are saying the same thing as the other fellow that disagrees with them. Thanks again for visiting nocentsatall.blogspot.com and I’ll be sure to return here again in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: HARDTRUTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>HARDTRUTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a mason. I mentioned the name Jesus and I got flack, so I quit. I can tell you what it is. They claim they are seeking the light but it&#039;s not Jesus.
No more evidence needed for me; I&#039;m out of here.
You are either with the Truth or against the Truth. Jesus is the Truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a mason. I mentioned the name Jesus and I got flack, so I quit. I can tell you what it is. They claim they are seeking the light but it&#8217;s not Jesus.<br />
No more evidence needed for me; I&#8217;m out of here.<br />
You are either with the Truth or against the Truth. Jesus is the Truth.</p>
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		<title>By: pjwalker911</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjwalker911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t pass this one up! Ho ho ho!


Adam Baldwin

Adam Baldwin (born February 27, 1962) is an American actor, distantly related to the Baldwin brothers. He is known for his roles as Animal Mother in Stanley Kubrick&#039;s Full Metal Jacket, Ricky Linderman in My Bodyguard, Knowle Rohrer in The X-Files, and Marcus Hamilton in Joss Whedon&#039;s Angel. He also established a cult following as Jayne Cobb in the series Firefly and the movie Serenity.

He currently stars as &lt;strong&gt;NSA agent John Casey on the NBC comedy-spy series Chuck.&lt;/strong&gt; !!!!!! hahaha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Baldwin

Just one of those coincidences?? Or some kind of hint??

His cult following is from this film that has a lot of scifi predictive programming and mind-control stuff in it.

Serenity (film)

Before she has a chance to attack Mal, her brother arrives and shouts a &quot;safe word&quot; that causes her to fall asleep. Despite his anger, Mal allows Simon and River to resume traveling on Serenity. The crew contacts a reclusive techno-geek known as Mr. Universe. Mr. Universe discovers that River&#039;s outburst was triggered by a subliminal message in an advertisement that had been broadcast across the Alliance during the previous weeks. He notes that River had whispered the name &quot;Miranda&quot; before attacking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_(film)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t pass this one up! Ho ho ho!</p>
<p>Adam Baldwin</p>
<p>Adam Baldwin (born February 27, 1962) is an American actor, distantly related to the Baldwin brothers. He is known for his roles as Animal Mother in Stanley Kubrick&#8217;s Full Metal Jacket, Ricky Linderman in My Bodyguard, Knowle Rohrer in The X-Files, and Marcus Hamilton in Joss Whedon&#8217;s Angel. He also established a cult following as Jayne Cobb in the series Firefly and the movie Serenity.</p>
<p>He currently stars as <strong>NSA agent John Casey on the NBC comedy-spy series Chuck.</strong> !!!!!! hahaha</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Baldwin" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Baldwin</a></p>
<p>Just one of those coincidences?? Or some kind of hint??</p>
<p>His cult following is from this film that has a lot of scifi predictive programming and mind-control stuff in it.</p>
<p>Serenity (film)</p>
<p>Before she has a chance to attack Mal, her brother arrives and shouts a &#8220;safe word&#8221; that causes her to fall asleep. Despite his anger, Mal allows Simon and River to resume traveling on Serenity. The crew contacts a reclusive techno-geek known as Mr. Universe. Mr. Universe discovers that River&#8217;s outburst was triggered by a subliminal message in an advertisement that had been broadcast across the Alliance during the previous weeks. He notes that River had whispered the name &#8220;Miranda&#8221; before attacking.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_(film)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_(film)</a></p>
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