
From left, Zulu, Jonathan Kanarek and Daemon Hillin are representative of a new wave of Freemasons that’s stamping a younger, hipper profile on the centuries-old fraternity.
The secretive society gains a higher, hipper profile as younger men seek out a place for fraternal bonding.
Los Angeles Times | May 18, 2008
By Adam Tschorn
IN LOS FELIZ, across from a 7-Eleven on North Vermont Avenue, a few dozen men in their early 20s to late 80s share a dinner behind closed doors. Some wear full tuxedos with bow ties and jeweled cuff links, some have shoulder-length hair, and others wear open-collared shirts that reveal the slightest filigree of tattoo arching across their chests.
Over Italian food, retired lawyers and judges sit elbow-to-elbow with owners of scrap metal yards and vintage clothing boutiques. They hold forth on philosophy, the weather; they rib each other and joke about saving room for cannoli. As they reach for seconds, they reveal skull-cracking rings emblazoned with a compass and a square.

After becoming a Master Mason (the term used for a new member who has completed all levels of study), Zulu went on to become a Scottish Rite Mason and a Shriner — both fraternal organizations that hold Masonic membership as a prerequisite. Here he wears his Shriner’s fez, his Master Mason’s apron and his daily wardrobe of French-cuffed shirts, pinstripe trousers, a shawl-collared silk brocade vest and a vintage watch chain circa 1895.
Meet the millennial Masons. As secret societies go, it is one of the oldest and most famous. Its enrollment roster includes Louis Armstrong and Gerald Ford, and it has been depicted in movies such as “The Da Vinci Code” and “National Treasure.” Once more than 4 million strong (back in the 1950s), it has been in something of a popularity free-fall ever since. Viewed with suspicion as a bastion of antiquated values and forced camaraderie, the Masons have seen membership rolls plummet more than 60% to just 1.5 million in 2006.

The 38th U.S. president was the most recent Mason to occupy the Oval Office. In his younger days he was a male model, once appearing on the cover of Cosmopolitan magazine.
Only now the trend seems to be reversing itself, and nowhere more noticeably than in Southern California. The reasons seem clear. In another Masonic Hall, this one on La Cienega, a Sri Lankan-born banker, a sunglasses-wearing Russian immigrant and a continent-hopping Frenchman break bread, poke at their salads and chat about their health.
“For a time it looked as if Masonry was going into a sharp decline, if not the death throes,” said UCLA history professor Margaret C. Jacob, who has written extensively about the fraternal order. “But it looks like it may be making a comeback.”

New or old, one hallmark of Freemasonry fashion is a penchant for rings, usually in a precious metal and bearing a version of the square and compass logo. Here Zulu, left, Jonathan Kanarek and Daemon Hillin show off their Masonic bling.

In addition to his Masonic ring and several tattoos with Masonic motifs, Zulu also sports a skull ring and carries a skull-topped walking stick.
That’s because the Freemasons, whose tenets forbid soliciting or recruiting members, have enthusiastically embraced the Internet as a way to leverage curiosity about an organization with its roots in Europe’s medieval stonemasons guilds. Freemasonry today sees itself as a thinking man’s salon, a learned society with a philanthropic bent.
“We had a record number of new members last year,” said Allan Casalou, grand secretary of the Grand Lodge of California. “We added 2,000 men, which is the most since 1998 and our seventh straight year of membership increases.”
And, to paraphrase that Oldsmobile campaign, these definitely aren’t your father’s Freemasons. They are bar owners, male models and olive-oil brokers. They are men like Zulu, an L.A. tattoo artist with a swirling Maori-inspired design inked across his face and a panoply of metal piercing his ears, nose and face. They are men like Jonathan Kanarek, who runs a men’s vintage clothing store on Hollywood Boulevard and whose retro chic wardrobe of polka-dot ascots, glen-plaid jackets and smartly pressed pocket squares earned him a spot on Esquire magazine’s 2007 list of best-dressed real men in America. And they are men like Daemon Hillin, whose surfer-dude looks and blinding white smile can be found on Japanese TV, where he plays sidekick and comic foil to the Japanese version of the Hilton sisters.
They are also all men who want to be part of an all-for-one and one-for-all brotherhood built on shared ideals, philosophical pursuits and a penchant for rings, aprons and funny hats. As Zulu bluntly put it: “I joined because I was looking for people to hang with that were like-minded but also hip and cool, and a lot of tattoo artists tend to be drunks and druggies.”
Hillin, who originally joined the Masons in Temecula, moved to L.A. and is interested in the Santa Monica-Palisades Lodge No. 307, one of the youngest and most diverse congregations in the state (the average age of active brothers is just 33). The lodge’s senior deacon, Jim Warren, calls it ” ‘Star Trek’ without the chicks.” “We have every possible national origin, ethnicity and religious denomination you could imagine,” he said.
Warren credits the Internet. “We were one the first lodges in the state to have a website up,” he said. “That led to a huge spike in membership.”
Other lodges followed suit, putting up their own sites and drawing a crowd. That’s how prospective Mason Johnny Royal ended up at the door of Elysian Lodge No. 418 last month. Intrigued by the distinctive Masonic architecture that graces most halls, the 31-year-old publicist with sideburns to his chin and hair to his shoulders and a Renaissance lute player tattoo on his right forearm hit the Web.
What he read about the Masonic ideals — wisdom, strength, beauty and the pursuit of knowledge — made him decide to pursue membership. “My generation wants to be part of something beyond itself,” Royal said. “I want to learn; I want to participate.”
The Web generation
THE INTERNET hasn’t only made it easier to learn about the Freemasons, Casalou says, it’s changed the type of men coming forward. “There is so much information on the Internet that by the time someone comes to a lodge to seek membership, they already know a lot about Masonry,” he said. “Which is a big departure from previous generations. And it means they are more likely to be active participants.”
Zulu became curious about Freemasonry after tattooing Masonic symbology on several clients. He joined five years ago at age 39 and now serves as webmaster and senior warden of North Hollywood Lodge No. 542. He has also gone on to become both a Scottish Rite Mason and Shriner (Masonic membership is a prerequisite for both), and next year he will become the leader of his lodge. “I’ll be the first black worshipful master in the lodge’s history,” he said, using the proper term of respect.
But he probably won’t be the last. Because California’s contingent of Freemasons is expected to grow, the average age of its members, once 71 and now 65, is expected to drop. By 2018, as Casalou predicts, the state will be awash in 55-year-old pre-retirement Masons giving each other secret handshakes, wearing ritual aprons and invoking the Grand Architect of the Universe.
The Internet continues to help. Zulu said that he gets at least four e-mails a week from prospective Masons around the globe who see his tattooed and pierced visage at the lodge website and want to be reassured such an alternative look isn’t a barrier to membership.
“Yeah, I think it’s going to become hip and chic to be a Mason,” Zulu said. “And that could be a dangerous thing.”
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wil // May 18, 2008 at 11:15 pm
*groan*
wil // May 18, 2008 at 11:39 pm
“Yeah, I think it’s going to become hip and chic to be a Mason,” Zulu said. “And that could be a dangerous thing.”
I wish he’d explained further what he meant by that? Uncool people might get in and diminish his light? Or Masons will become popular and make enemies? Or that they’ll be the ones calling more shots?
wil // May 18, 2008 at 11:47 pm
I had noticed lately History and other channels running a lot of Freemason and Knights Templar programs, along with Sci Fi Channel’s frequent showings of the Indiana Jones movies these past weeks leading up to the new movie… And other shows about Crystal Skulls and etc, and more depopulation special effect programs on Top Ten Ways world will end and kill every-body-
pjwalker911 // May 19, 2008 at 1:39 am
One one hand, the Freemasons have done everything possible to keep a very low profile. But as the NWO unfolds, our masters will want to become known to the general public and finally worshipped as gods. This is the direction it is going. That is why they are being revealed in movies and media very gradually to condition the public which is totally ignorant about Freemasonry, even though we were all born into a Masonic Matrix system. Just take some time to study corporate and government logos to understand what I mean.
wil // May 19, 2008 at 1:56 am
Oh yeah–hard not to notice–
I remember a while back–don’t know where I was at or the circumstance–older gentleman very determined to give me a certain type of handshake–I gave up and went along with it–guess he was trying to tell me something–
The whole thing is like on one hand secretive, yet on other the facade of being in the open–
I mean–if this relates–for all the talk of bird flu and conditioning people on it and pandemics–the current outbreaks in Seoul Korea barely mentioned, and just brief few sentences that all live poultry in city of 8 million have been culled. Well I thought it was newsworthy– Lot of talk on pandemic preparations over the last few years– but this event being skipped over it seems–
wil // May 19, 2008 at 2:04 am
If any mortal ever thinks I’ll worship them as a god–they can get over it.
DavidG // May 19, 2008 at 11:23 am
“I wish he’d explained further what he meant by that? Uncool people might get in and diminish his light? Or Masons will become popular and make enemies? Or that they’ll be the ones calling more shots?”
He’s right about that, if it becomes “HIP” then it becomes trendy instead of a way to grow as a person.
Anonymous // May 19, 2008 at 11:38 am
Reading social engineering like this as ‘news’ is falling into their mental prison grid.
The facts of the present hour are given by Freeman. He notes Masonic temples are for sale all across America.
http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/2006/04/path-of-destruction.html
Of course, the ‘club’ is not going to let everyone in on this secret. They operate on levels of deception and use the lower ones as cannon fodder and gophers who believe they are in on the big picture. Then they graduate up and think now, I’m in on the big picture. Then…you get the idea.
wil // May 19, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Well that sentence of his could have been taken a dozen ways–I try to avoid mindreading what I thought people meant as much as I can.
I mean if you look at the pix and read the captions–seems to be a fashion shoot as much as anything…and the article seems to spin “coolness,” emphasizing and detailing everyone’s dress style.
And I agree with anon–I don’t really consider this “news” either.
johnnypeepers // May 19, 2008 at 8:48 pm
The Masons are the post-graduate fraternity for the empty soul-chambers who need to be adored by their vacuous peers. Through their secret initiations, levels of attainment, and brotherhood, they inject themselves with a self-absorbed fraudulent importance. Bollocks them and anyone else who needs a group to define their existence.
davidg // May 20, 2008 at 1:47 am
Anonymous, to be in on the secret of Freemasonry’s falling membership numbers you only have to do about half an hour of reading on the net. Some Big Secret.
Johnnypeepers, we actually try to keep out the guys who NEED a group to define their existence because they tend to NOT be members who contribute of their time, and energy to any purpose.
pjwalker911 // May 20, 2008 at 2:18 am
You mean The Great Work? Novus Ordo Seclorum? Ordo Ab Chao? Is that the purpose you refer to?
warofillusions // May 20, 2008 at 11:12 am
Ahh! Great find! Notice the guy with the glasses doing that geometric placement of his arms. Nice skull ring on that guy too. Sure matches those kill-you eyes of his. Another mason rising to prominence is Barack Obama. You all should read this here. The Selection ‘08 article will be of particular interest to those who want info on Clinton-Obama-Mccain.
http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/horn-hex-rally-satanic-origin-of-the-ut-hook-em-horns/
TenJin // May 22, 2008 at 12:26 am
not unlike ‘the jews’, the Masons relevance is exaggerated. Sombnall of both these demographics are in the ruling class, but these particular masons are dandies. the evangelicals worry me more than the freemasons.
Ken D. Webber // May 25, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Logically, if all the Freemasons secrets, their handshakes being the exception, are out in the open then why would any thinking person join them and pay dues? What a conspiracy that is… “scam people out of their hard-earned money in exchange for the ’secret’ shaky-hand handshake!” No thanks.
— what’s the word – what is truth?
wil // May 26, 2008 at 7:40 am
Truth should be free–not for sale. (though I probably contradict that one by the number of books I’ve bought over the years) And any real truth can’t be bought–unless it’s the knowledge you get when you realize you’ve wasted your money.
A friend told me he had once thought of asking me to be his “mentor.” I told him I thought he was doing fine and didn’t need one. I said I was happy to be his friend, and if anyone came offering to be a mentor–people like that he should flee from as rapidly as possible.
pjwalker911 // May 26, 2008 at 8:07 am
Right on Wil.
wil // May 27, 2008 at 7:17 pm
In earlier life cycles I had my share of “mentors’ in opportunistic search of victims–I mean–disciples.
And more recently I had someone try to project that onto me during a bad stretch when my defenses were worn down and I wasn’t in position to stand up for myself as well as usual. Now I’m just pissed at how much of my energy got diverted with the whole situation, but trying not to dwell on it and move on.
pjwalker911 // May 28, 2008 at 2:30 am
Wise man, but there are times when mentoring is natural and right. It is just when it becomes a power-trip (from the mentor’s side), or a waste of time and energy (from the mentoree’s side), that it becomes a problem.
wil // May 29, 2008 at 12:42 am
You might say I gently mentor a number of people, or in other words–be a good friend…
But I try to let other people run their own lives–I’ve had too many people attempt to maneuver mine–
The recent case for me was a relative trying to work on me/”straighten me out”, but it was like animal training–I’m not supposed to know what’s going on–I’m just supposed to magically respond to certain stimuli (excessive repetition of lists of questions and statements I was expected to respond into in depth no matter how times it took until I gave the desired answers) and be unaware of the wondrous improvements being wrought upon me. After being nice for a while, I quit returning phone calls.
wil // May 29, 2008 at 12:49 am
A new friend a while back–I obviously knew some things he wanted to know more about, so you might say it was mentorish for a while –but I still view it as it being friends.
The thing with relative–I was never asked–I was simply told periodically that the house here I was being helped with was a project–mysterious pause–I was a project too–another mysterious pause, but–It wasn’t going to be gotten into…..
I eventually got tired of being compared to a run down house being gutted and remodeled.
Zulu // November 22, 2008 at 12:53 am
A lot of readers want to know what I meant by the following comment…
“I think it’s going to become hip and chic to be a Mason, and that could be a dangerous thing.”
I’ll explain…
One should become a Mason because his main concerns are to help his fellow man and make this world a place where all can live in peace and have equal rights…that’s why guys like Nelson Mandela are masons.
I fear that a large group of people will want to join because of Hollywood movies and the want to be a part of a “the click” or be seen as hip, cool or seeking a position of power; these kind of people are nothing but self inflated ego-maniacs and have no place in the fraternity.
If this type of element infiltrates freemasonry they are sure to be weeded out, but unfortunately and possibly not, before doing some damage.
mike // December 3, 2008 at 12:58 am
surely its quite a big risk to join such a group, a society with secrets, like a fly entering the jaws of a venus fly trap, perhaps true freedom is being a non mason? you can have a great knoledge of wonder,time space, history and religion discoverd by yourself, is there (or a need for) a sign or handshake for non masons to indicate thier status to a mason?
pjwalker911 // December 3, 2008 at 1:40 am
Excellent points Mike. Anyone who has ever made the mistake of joining a cult, who still had some common sense, soon realizes that it is a trap, much like being in the mafia. Once you are in, it is hard to extricate yourself safely because of the compromises you make along the way. The further you get in, the more deadly the trap until you are facing the mortal dilema of kill or be killed. At some point, someone is going to order you to perform an immoral or illegal act and you will have to carry it out or risk punishment or even death.
In the case, of Masons, you face death if you reveal the secrets or break the rules. Why anyone would want to take such blood-curling oaths is beyond most people’s comprehension, yet it is driven by greed and lust for power. It has nothing to do with “making good men better”, charity, brotherhood and all that happy horsecrap. It is about selling your soul over to dark forces.
See Brotherhood of the Bell with John Forsythe. Even though he was a Mason, I believe he did this movie to try to warn people about secret societies and their devilish machinations.
There are countless signs that Masons use to communicate with one another. See:
Codex Magica
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/codex_magica.htm#Contents
The Secret Handshake, Secret Word, Secret High Sign, and the Nature of Freemasonry
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/secrets.html
Secret Masonic Handshakes, Passwords, Grips
And Signs Of Blue Lodge Masonry
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/handshakes.htm
Freemasonry is really a religion
http://www.trosch.org/msn/mason-graphics.html
Bro. Tipps // January 14, 2009 at 3:31 am
To Brother Zulu, johnathin, and Dameon, let me be the first to say from New Testament Lodge#3 Dallas Texas Prince Hall Origin that I am proud to see brothers reaching out to others in another way….This is the way of UNITY….. What lodge and state you guys from?
Bro Tipps // January 14, 2009 at 4:05 am
Bro. Zulu can you hit me up at ntmtxpho@yahoo I am a traveling brother from Texas, I like what I see on the page…..will like to give a helping if needed
pjwalker911 // January 14, 2009 at 6:31 am
Bro Tipps,
As an educated, concerned Mason and patriot, what are your opinions about the New World Order: the North American Union, the open borders, losing our freedoms, facing economic meltdown, being involved in perpetual warfare, the corruption in Washington, the government pushing for transhumanism and the global warming hoax? Who do you think is behind all of this evil? Just curious…
Jules // February 9, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Jesus Christ is coming soon and will do away with those who worship false gods, because He is the truth. (John chapter 14 verse 6)
Bro Tipps // February 9, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Bro. Walker
The people we can blame are people like Jules and his comment that are not in this Order of Freemasons. This is why our name has been slained for so many years because of blind ignorance of our fellow man. That also stands for the other bad things that go on. And the other things you asked you can blame everybody in the goverment because of greed
pjwalker911 // February 10, 2009 at 3:20 am
Bro Tipps,
Your organization has earned its universally accepted reputation as a secret society bent on subversion and conspiracy.
Sure, blame the government, but remember that most of our presidents have been Masons and the rest have belonged to equally nefarious organizations like Skull and Bones. All these secret orders work together at the top to run governments from the top down. We do not live in a free world because powerful actors behind the scenes manipulate events toward the Novus Ordo Seclorum. Freemasons, whatever level of initiation, have sold their souls.
Bro Tipps // February 10, 2009 at 5:00 am
Bro. Walker,
The way you are saying your words is starting to sound like you are not a Mason. Sell my soul you say? Yes I did sell my soul, if you want to put it like that. and that will be to GOD….Jesus father if you get confused on that part, we worship no “body” or “thing” and every Mason will agree. We do not try to run everything in the goverment, just make it better for all. Also my brother, Skulls and Bones do not work together. The Freemason organization is not a secret society, everyone has secrets just like every other Frat. If we were such, nobody will know what we do or what we are about.
pjwalker911 // February 10, 2009 at 7:38 am
You probably aren’t a mason after all. Or maybe just an Entered Apprentice.
Bro Tipps // February 13, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Lol I am and you can try me all you want but I know you not one
mannaseeyahah // April 14, 2009 at 2:48 am
I think the reference to popularity being a negative thing for a secret society is correct. The caliber of individuals that are lead by trends as apposed to those which are lead by the pursuit of knowledge, is drastically dissimilar [In my experience]. However since their craft has endured for this long… perhaps GMA will work through the MMs to catalyze the reactions required to form even the ignorant wretches of the general public into something other than what they are, please God! [As a note I am not a Mason, but vaguely familiar with what they may or may not be about.]
Bro Tipps // April 14, 2009 at 4:29 am
There is not a position in Freemasonry that is GMA and what are we about or what you hear about us.
ron // July 28, 2009 at 6:29 pm
mason interest played itself out in the 90s at the height of the pop culture conspiracy boom. x-files also rode that wave.
i guess this is the inevitable 2nd wave.
Al Pyke // July 29, 2009 at 6:22 am
This “zulu” clown looks like a typical greasy, slimeball, conniving, uppity bastard who uses his so called important position to seduce gullible brainwashed white women into having sex with him and contract venereal diseases originating from africa.
Bro. Tipps // July 29, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Wow Al seems like you realy got some bad blood with Zulu the whole africa thing was a topper the way you sounnd is like you saw him do this befor
Al Pyke // July 29, 2009 at 7:22 pm
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lily-burk29-2009jul29,0,909475.story
Go see for yourself what these uppity stepnfetchit bastards are doing to naive, brainwashed white girls. What are you gonna do about it? I bet you anything that this smooth talking aggressive fuckin zulu bastards sweet talks white girls just like this LA homeless punk.
Al Pyke // July 29, 2009 at 7:24 pm
By the way, I am a member of Scottish Rite, and I am totally against letting in these slimebags into our midst. The only valid branch of masonry for me at this point is the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
Bro.R // August 5, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Al Pyke, you sir are not a true mason, if you are at all. all this conspiracy talk is bullshit. its just an organization. a charitable one at that. i am a member, and im not trying to take over the world, im trying to better it. people like al give us a bad name. a true mason accepts all people equally. so your Ku Klux Klan shout out just proves to me that if you are a mason at all, you do not deserve to be. i am a master mason, and an officer at my lodge. if i ever heard a potential candidate, speak with a blind bias or discrimination, i would see that they have their membership denied.
Bro. Tipps // August 6, 2009 at 5:08 am
So called Bro. Pyke: I was raised Scotish Rite and you just spit on the one thing I love……you say you are in the KKK right, that means you are in a klandestine organization and your group was removed from the masonic organization about 30 to 40 years ago. So, Bro.R, he is not a true mason he is a true coward to his name. You just made yourself look real dumb on this page so just kill yourself already…..LOL
Bro. Tipps // August 6, 2009 at 5:10 am
And the kill yourself part is to Al Pyke
Natan // August 30, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I always like to read this kind of discussions.
It always shows the powerfulness of the greater masonic workings and codes.
The different lodges and the free masonry itself are just a fraction of the global masonical whole.
Closelly examining these ‘fractions’ will never be able to give any kind of answer. That is why it is a secret society and will always remain so, even if at times it seems to be ‘uncovered’.
The thing is, free masons work with codes, but they are not the programmers who made up the code. That is why they blindlly (have to!) accept the code. The better they follow up, the higher they get ranked. But that also means they do not know what the code is.
And this is what makes it so brilliant; since they don’t know they can never ‘give out’ information about it.
The code is meant for a different ‘part’, who are able to ‘naturaly’ decipher the code. They never show any external signs, they don’t have a certain handshake, they don’t wear ceremonial clothes… but they understand the code and work on their own level.
The beehive who is still used by the free masons is in fact a old symbol who doesn’t do justice to the masonic ‘whole’ in the present day.
The present day symbol is that of the hypercube.
pjwalker911 // August 30, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Oh, you mean the Borg?
Natan // August 30, 2009 at 5:58 pm
There you have it, another reference – chances are there was a mason involved in the whole star trek – borg creation.
Natan // August 30, 2009 at 6:13 pm
For example:
Albert Einstein was such a ‘decipher’, by such – you will never see any ‘power’ symbols surrounding his persona. And it may look paradoxal but he became a free mason after his share of work was actually already done.
pjwalker911 // August 31, 2009 at 4:29 am
Just Google “gene roddenberry freemason” and you get 11,000 results.
The Borg is the NBIC Hive Mind. Just google it:
Just another agenda of the Illuminists, pre-conditioning the public through Star Trek predictive programming.
The hive-mind brainchips have been in R&D since the 1960s at least and they were conceived of at least as far back as the 1930’s by FDR science advisor Vannevar Bush.
Vannevar Bush Worshipful Master Richard C. Maclaurin Lodge Cambridge, Massachusetts
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/bush_v/bush_v.html
One of the heads of NBIC is a socioligist out of the NSF who is a former apologist for Scientology and the Process Church (a satanic cult), both coming out of Aliester Crowley, a Freemason and Satanist.
Every bit of the transhumanist agenda arises out of Freemasonry’s conceit of “improving human performance”.
We don’t want no stinking Masonic hive mind borg brainchips thank you.
Al Pyke // October 21, 2009 at 12:41 am
Bro tipps, why dont you just bend over and let some big spade penetrate your rectum and spew aids infected sperm into your innards? And why don’t you just suck some n1gg3r’s dick? You are just a jew worshipping fag.
David // October 28, 2009 at 2:41 pm
as someone just starting to look into masonry via books and the internet, i have found next to nothing but attempts to dash the purpose and intentions of the masons, by people who arent masons. how can anyone in their right mind be against something they know nothing about, and have only heard about from people like this Al Pyke tosser? i choose not to believe the critics, and hope one day to join the ranks of masons, as my grandfather was a high order member himself. more power to you Zulu and the Brothers.
pjwalker911 // October 28, 2009 at 8:29 pm
David,
Wow. For someone who is “just starting to look into masonry”, you are awfully quick to judge something you know nothing about, aren’t you?
Bro Tipps // October 28, 2009 at 10:04 pm
@ Pyke I must have hurt yo feeling coming back like that….that all you got…..lmao….damn lil man just remember this black thang is bigger than yours. That’s just like a skin head all bark no bite…….MASONIC POWER!!!!!! Damn mofo
Bro Tipps // October 28, 2009 at 10:32 pm
For the first time I will have to agree with pjwalker he knows nothing how you going to ask a non masonic member
pjwalker911 // October 29, 2009 at 4:38 am
Bro Tipps,
You are obviously watching this thread carefully so that you can guide it along. Good…for you.
To clarify, the question was as to how a non-mason who is “just starting to look into masonry” can determine that masonry is good and that non-masons who criticize masonry are wrong. I think that is a fair and logical question. We are not talking about masons who defend their Craft, such as yourself. We are talking about non-masons with little knowledge who assume (without much basis) that non-mason critics are wrong. The point being that a non-mason with little knowledge of either side would not appear to have the necessary information to form a conclusion either way.
There, I think that should clear up the issue for further discussion.
Bro Tipps // October 29, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Got ya from the start
pjwalker911 // October 30, 2009 at 1:24 am
Ah Bro Tipps, you ain’t got shit, admit it. The world is waking up to the NWO agenda, out of the official Masonic bedtime stories. Time to repent.
There may yet be time for you to free yourself from slavery to your masonic masters, to go from Freemason to Free Man.
David // November 16, 2009 at 12:01 pm
i wouldnt say i know nothing about either side of the argument. i have a history of masons throughout my family and have heard from them the masonic side of things. however after “just starting to look into masonry” for myself, ive found next to nothing but sites criticising masonry. therefore i think ive learned enough about both sides to have an opinion. since my last post ive been inducted into a lodge, so i can only learn more from now on.
pjwalker911 // November 17, 2009 at 11:15 am
David,
Well congratulations. Now you are an official servant of the Novus Ordo Seclorum. You know: Big Brother Surveillance, MasonicChip, Global Government, NAU, EU, AU, APU, UNASUR, United Nations, Police State Dictatorship, Wealth Redistribution, Big Government, CIA Black Ops, Eugenics, Transhumanism, Perpetual War, Social Engineering, Psyops, Military/Industrial Complex, CFR, Bilderberg, Club of Rome, Lucis Trust, Roteract, Lions UN Global Compact, Banking Cartels, Royal Bloodlines etc, etc, all the things that Freemasons support.
I wish I could say best of luck, but instead I’ll say go sit on a sharp stake.
jbehr // November 17, 2009 at 10:21 pm
What is it, pjwalker911, that you have ever done in your entire life to benefit somebody other than yourself? You are so negative and conspiracy driven. I truly feel sorry for you. Tell me this, have you ever been out of this country? Do you speak any languages other than english? Have you been to war, bankrupt, or divorced? Have you truly suffered as a result of “the New World Order” ? It is you, and people like you, who question things to the point where life loses its magic. It is people like you who allow anti-semitism in our country. Your people are a people with no culture, love, tolerance, ambition or future. You seek to set brother against brother. You are a weak, emotional and intellectual infant who bought into the liberal arts education that your parents paid for. The anarchy you seek would crush you. You are a pussy.
Bro Tipps // November 18, 2009 at 12:42 am
@ jbehr finally someone else thinks pjwalker is a pussy this mofo does not know what the hell he is talking about…..where you hail from jbehr