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Italy’s “Solution” to “Problem-Gypsy” fingerprinting Reaction: Fingerprint ALL citizens

July 16, 2008 · 8 Comments

Young gypsy girls in Rome. In a bid to defuse the controversy over fingerprinting gypsy children, Italy is now considering fingerprinting ALL its citizens

Italy’s plan to defuse uproar over fingerprinting of gypsy children: demand ALL citizens be fingerprinted

Daily Mail | Jul 16, 2008

Italy may demand all its citizens be fingerprinted, a move aimed at defusing widespread criticism of government plans to force Roma people and their children to provide fingerprints as a way of tackling criminality.

That policy has been condemned by the European Parliament, by Romania, where many Roma come from, and by religious groups who have compared it to the tagging of Jews by Nazis and fascists in the 1930s.

A parliamentary committee agreed on Wednesday that from 2010 all identity cards, which Italians already have to carry, should include the fingerprints of the bearer. The measure still has to pass through parliament.

“It will defuse the Roma question, (fingerprints) will be taken from everyone,” opposition deputy Antonio Misani was quoted as saying by the Corriere della Sera newspaper’s website.

Conservative Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi won a landslide at an April election on a promise to get tough on crime which many Italians blame on immigrants.

Interior Minister Roberto Maroni, a member of the staunchly anti-immigrant Northern League party, is pushing the measure to fingerprint people living in Roma camps. He has said only people who cannot provide valid identification will be fingerprinted.

Berlusconi has defended the policy, saying it would help the state clean up Roma camps, which are often squalid shanty towns on the outskirts of major cities. There are about 140,000 Roma in Italy, where they are known as “nomads”.

“The Italian government wants to guarantee Roma children can go to school and wants to integrate these European citizens,” Berlusconi said on Tuesday.

Commenting on the plan to fingerprint Roma, Italy’s privacy watchdog said it was “absolutely necessary to avoid recourse to techniques based on discriminatory criteria, especially if ethnic or religious” but said fingerprinting the whole population would not be discriminatory.

“Now we need immediately to suspend the Roma measure as it looks like there will be a decision that will be valid for everyone,” said opposition leader Walter Veltroni.

Categories: Big Brother Surveillance Society · Hegelian Dialectic · Police State Dictatorship · Social Engineering

8 responses so far ↓

  • wil // July 16, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    From bad to worse–though I would think doing everyone is what they really wanted all along.

  • pjwalker911 // July 17, 2008 at 3:57 am

    Of course. They do the same thing with Mexicans. First they say we have to do biometrics with the illegals to keep America safe. Then the American idiot public cheers and the next thing you know the American idiot public is getting put into the same global database.

    The real problem as I see it is stupidity and ignorance as to the New World Order and how it operates based on the simple Hegelian formula of problem-reaction-solution. And the idiot public swallows the con-game very single time. Disgusting.

  • Maria // July 17, 2008 at 11:39 am

    You guys would really enjoy reading a book called Nihilism by Eugene Rose. I’ve just been reading it and it’s so intellectually stimulating, old order vs. new world order stuff.

  • Bill // July 17, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    First they fingerprinted the Gypsy children . . . .

  • pjwalker911 // July 17, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    and I said nothing because I wasn’t a Gypsy child…

  • wil // July 17, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    And you talk to people and you get the deer in the headlights look–Huh? What? “They” won’t let that happen. It’s in God’s hands…etc etc

  • zinnamongirl // February 4, 2009 at 4:18 am

    This is a call for Protest

    It concerns a recent episode on a popular TV show. The show is Criminal Minds – BLOODLINE episode. The Network is CBS

    CBS is owned by Viacom

    What I find offensive and degrading is that this furthers the ancient negative stereotype – that Gypsies (Rom) steal young children.

    Except in this case, the stereotype goes way off the deep end, in that the Rom in the story are also twisted psychopaths and ritual killers, as they kill the parents of the children – and at times the children.

    In this episode Roma kidnap a 10 year old girl, but first murder her parents. Then when the girl turns out unsuitable, they dump her body into a ravine and leave her for dead. Then they go and abduct another little girl.

    You can get the gist of the story, if you watch the show you will also note that it is seeded with countless negative insinuations, and innuendos.

    IN PROTEST:
    I filed a FCC violation against VIACOM and CBS

    It is very simple just go to the FCC website FCC.GOV and follow the “FILE A COMPLAINT” link. The online form takes only a few minutes to complete and submits instantly.

    This Xenophobic episode is inflammatory enough here in the US. When it airs in Europe it could well incite more violence against Roma who are currently in a refugee situation there.

    Considering the humanitarian crisis, violence, persecution and discrimination that Roma are presently experiencing all over Europe , I find this episode violates every standard of decency.

    Please, join me in filing a FCC complaint.
    FCC.GOV

    Of late the news in the US is also filled with alarming stories of Roma (Gypsies) on an apparent crime spree. This is not true, most of the stories are either fabricated to fill empty news broadcast gaps, or do not involve Roma at all.

    Roma have adapted well into society here in the US because they have been able to work their way out from under. They blend into society at large at the same rate as other immigrant groups that have come before them.

    Roma are just as productive and valuable as any other immigrant group that has come to the US. Just as other immigrant groups the first generation of Roma generally struggles, the second generation will have adapted to life in the US and will finish High School, and by the third generation will have blended in entirely, and will have gone on to finish College.

    This is possible only because they are protected along side with any other citizen or resident who legally resides in the US.

    I for one would hate to see the US have the same problems that Europe is facing in hosting the influx of the refugee Roma community. If Xenophobia spreads to the US, then we are almost guaranteed to inherit the same issues.

    If a country segregates civil and human rights to keep a certain group of people down, then that country and it’s people will have to deal with the fall out that comes with it. And from what I see and read, it is not something I would want to deal with.

    Let us not single out one ethnic immigrant group and condemn them to failure. Only Xenaphobia will bring that failure about.

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