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		<title>By: pjwalker911</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjwalker911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pagan mystery religions and the mainstream popular religions are all controlled by the same powers that be. I&#039;m not talking about smaller tribal religions scattered around the world, but the esoteric priesthoods of the ancient world that still exist today. 

True some people who flash the horns probably have no clue that it has to do with Satanic worship originally (not &quot;Love&quot; or &quot;Hook&#039;em Horns&quot;), but the fact is that Satanists do use it to represent that deity or Lucifer as the case may be. 

You seem to be trying to downplay the fact that the elite, globalist criminal leaders use this handsign frequently, which could only mean that you are trying to cover for them. I guarantee that when an Illuminati member uses that sign, he is not saying &quot;I love you&quot;. He is communicating directly to his elite brethren and subliminally implanting a message of evil into the minds of his lesser followers. 

You can play with words all you want but it doesn&#039;t change the facts. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pagan mystery religions and the mainstream popular religions are all controlled by the same powers that be. I&#8217;m not talking about smaller tribal religions scattered around the world, but the esoteric priesthoods of the ancient world that still exist today. </p>
<p>True some people who flash the horns probably have no clue that it has to do with Satanic worship originally (not &#8220;Love&#8221; or &#8220;Hook&#8217;em Horns&#8221;), but the fact is that Satanists do use it to represent that deity or Lucifer as the case may be. </p>
<p>You seem to be trying to downplay the fact that the elite, globalist criminal leaders use this handsign frequently, which could only mean that you are trying to cover for them. I guarantee that when an Illuminati member uses that sign, he is not saying &#8220;I love you&#8221;. He is communicating directly to his elite brethren and subliminally implanting a message of evil into the minds of his lesser followers. </p>
<p>You can play with words all you want but it doesn&#8217;t change the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: pjwalker911</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjwalker911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JFK was taken out by our own shadow government. Obama could go by the hand of a fanatic, but never by the shadow government because he is one of their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFK was taken out by our own shadow government. Obama could go by the hand of a fanatic, but never by the shadow government because he is one of their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and PJ, you just pointed out a lot of misconceptions.  Since when do the rock stars paint a complete picture?

&quot;Devil horns&quot; have also been used by Texas Longhorn fans, to denote bull horns, and it&#039;s a version of the &quot;I Love You&quot; on a single hand (difference being the thumb being folded in).

666 was originally the number for the Sun God before Christians decided that Paganism is evil and must be destroyed.  6+6+6 = 18, 1+8=9, 9 is 3+3+3, also known as the &quot;number of the universe&quot;.  It started out as a peaceful number, as did the swastika - which was a symbol of peace before a German man decided to use it for his own devices.  Sounds a lot like the Christian cross if you think about the crusades and the numbers of people slain in the name of Christianity. 

&quot;Paganism&quot; is anything that is not Christianity (which would include Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, and Islam, by definition), and the &quot;Satanism&quot; I&#039;ve talked to people about is really just putting oneself before God.  People get a lot of funny ideas about this kind of stuff, and I just wanted to point out that you were stating a lot of the misconceptions that a lot of people not only believe but &lt;b&gt;USE&lt;/b&gt; as their beliefs.  Those people hurt the reputation more than they could ever guess.

Also, a lot of Germans started out Jewish and denounced their faith and became Christian out of survival.  I don&#039;t understand why people like to use Jewish as a nationality - it never was and never will be.  They have their own roots in Arabic nations and have mixed in with Europeans since before Christian faith was born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and PJ, you just pointed out a lot of misconceptions.  Since when do the rock stars paint a complete picture?</p>
<p>&#8220;Devil horns&#8221; have also been used by Texas Longhorn fans, to denote bull horns, and it&#8217;s a version of the &#8220;I Love You&#8221; on a single hand (difference being the thumb being folded in).</p>
<p>666 was originally the number for the Sun God before Christians decided that Paganism is evil and must be destroyed.  6+6+6 = 18, 1+8=9, 9 is 3+3+3, also known as the &#8220;number of the universe&#8221;.  It started out as a peaceful number, as did the swastika &#8211; which was a symbol of peace before a German man decided to use it for his own devices.  Sounds a lot like the Christian cross if you think about the crusades and the numbers of people slain in the name of Christianity. </p>
<p>&#8220;Paganism&#8221; is anything that is not Christianity (which would include Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism, and Islam, by definition), and the &#8220;Satanism&#8221; I&#8217;ve talked to people about is really just putting oneself before God.  People get a lot of funny ideas about this kind of stuff, and I just wanted to point out that you were stating a lot of the misconceptions that a lot of people not only believe but <b>USE</b> as their beliefs.  Those people hurt the reputation more than they could ever guess.</p>
<p>Also, a lot of Germans started out Jewish and denounced their faith and became Christian out of survival.  I don&#8217;t understand why people like to use Jewish as a nationality &#8211; it never was and never will be.  They have their own roots in Arabic nations and have mixed in with Europeans since before Christian faith was born.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The plot was one of mass homicide.  To me, it doesn&#039;t really matter who it was aimed at, the point being that there&#039;s a sickness there that led to the belief that it was necessary in the first place.

I am NOT a fan of pointless death.  If they really felt the need, why not wait to see if Mr. Obama was actually elected first?  And why take down so many people with him?  Does anyone else see the similarities between when JFK was elected and Obama?

I just don&#039;t understand Americans...  I was born here, I&#039;ve spent most of my life here, but I just can&#039;t wrap my head around crap like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The plot was one of mass homicide.  To me, it doesn&#8217;t really matter who it was aimed at, the point being that there&#8217;s a sickness there that led to the belief that it was necessary in the first place.</p>
<p>I am NOT a fan of pointless death.  If they really felt the need, why not wait to see if Mr. Obama was actually elected first?  And why take down so many people with him?  Does anyone else see the similarities between when JFK was elected and Obama?</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand Americans&#8230;  I was born here, I&#8217;ve spent most of my life here, but I just can&#8217;t wrap my head around crap like this.</p>
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		<title>By: pjwalker911</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjwalker911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does stink of a psyop to me, but we need more evidence. Obama is in many ways, the best thing that ever happened to the White Power movement as he is driving up membership rates. In return, this little crazy plot is probably driving up Obama&#039;s ratings, making him more godlike in the eyes of his sheep-like followers. It works both ways, but it ultimately benefits no one but the elite. Always ask &quot;who benefits?&quot;

Schlesselman does sound Jewish, but it could more likely be German. Cowart doesn&#039;t sound Jewish at all. 

Freemasonry is based on Kabbalah and the Temple of Solomon, and Freemasons tend toward Zionism. Therefore, it seems odd that the KKK would come out of Freemasonry until you realize that they want to create chaos. Anyone out there who is involved in these white supremacist groups, you better get out and try to live a normal life because you are being used and manipulated.

Come back and rejoin the human race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does stink of a psyop to me, but we need more evidence. Obama is in many ways, the best thing that ever happened to the White Power movement as he is driving up membership rates. In return, this little crazy plot is probably driving up Obama&#8217;s ratings, making him more godlike in the eyes of his sheep-like followers. It works both ways, but it ultimately benefits no one but the elite. Always ask &#8220;who benefits?&#8221;</p>
<p>Schlesselman does sound Jewish, but it could more likely be German. Cowart doesn&#8217;t sound Jewish at all. </p>
<p>Freemasonry is based on Kabbalah and the Temple of Solomon, and Freemasons tend toward Zionism. Therefore, it seems odd that the KKK would come out of Freemasonry until you realize that they want to create chaos. Anyone out there who is involved in these white supremacist groups, you better get out and try to live a normal life because you are being used and manipulated.</p>
<p>Come back and rejoin the human race.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Feney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Feney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Schlesselman and Cowart are names that appear in these databases of jewish names:

J. JewishGen Family Finder (97,391 surnames). Surnames being researched by some 60,000 Jewish genealogists worldwide. An on-going project--continuously updated. Online database

K. Family Tree of the Jewish People (184,237 surnames). 2,000,000 persons who appear on family trees being researched by Jewish genealogists. An on-going project--continuously updated. Online database

Of course you&#039;ll never hear that two jewish terrorists plotted to murder 99 blacks and decapitate 14 before attempting to assassinate Obama in tux and top hats.

This stinks like Columbine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Schlesselman and Cowart are names that appear in these databases of jewish names:</p>
<p>J. JewishGen Family Finder (97,391 surnames). Surnames being researched by some 60,000 Jewish genealogists worldwide. An on-going project&#8211;continuously updated. Online database</p>
<p>K. Family Tree of the Jewish People (184,237 surnames). 2,000,000 persons who appear on family trees being researched by Jewish genealogists. An on-going project&#8211;continuously updated. Online database</p>
<p>Of course you&#8217;ll never hear that two jewish terrorists plotted to murder 99 blacks and decapitate 14 before attempting to assassinate Obama in tux and top hats.</p>
<p>This stinks like Columbine.</p>
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		<title>By: pjwalker911</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjwalker911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, well it doesn&#039;t necessarily prove anything if a guy puts up the devil horns, but what it does for me is to give more confirmation of my suspicions about him. 

The thing is, all the worst most evil political creeps use the same sign: Clinton, Berlusconi, Sarkozy, Quayle, Cheney, Bush (incl the whole family) and the list goes on and on. I have seen entire webpages plastered with dozens and dozens of them basically hailing Satan. I mean, do Ron Paul fans go to the rallies throwing the horns to him up on the stage? I don&#039;t know, but I think most of them would never use that sign because they consider it to be something sinister. Right? 

And the reason rock stars use it is because a lot of them are actually Satanists. I once heard Metallica frontman James Hetfield actually say &quot;I like evil&quot; with a big grin on his face and he throws the horns all the time. That is especially evident in the hardcore Satanic concerts where they have the inverted pentagram on the stage and everybody is throwing the horns. Everybody. Alex Jones&#039; friend Joe Rogan uses it. There is a photo of it over on Spiritually Smart where he and Stanton Lavey (Anton&#039;s grandson) are both flashing it and on Rogan&#039;s t-shirt it says &#039;666&#039;. It is the sign of Satan. I&#039;m not even a Christian, but I know what it means and I would never use it. I don&#039;t like that shit. 

It is very possible that these two kids were fed a message to at least think about this hair-brained plot. It could have been given directly, or more subliminally. Yes, they also could have thought it up all on their own, but again, the messages from above in the SWA would have been extremely negative on Obama. So this is coming out of, at the very least, the relentless brainwashing that goes on in these cults. I think one of the main things to get from this article is that Cowart was very well thought of and people were shocked to find this out about him. To me, it shows he has been under a bad influence which is a type of control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, well it doesn&#8217;t necessarily prove anything if a guy puts up the devil horns, but what it does for me is to give more confirmation of my suspicions about him. </p>
<p>The thing is, all the worst most evil political creeps use the same sign: Clinton, Berlusconi, Sarkozy, Quayle, Cheney, Bush (incl the whole family) and the list goes on and on. I have seen entire webpages plastered with dozens and dozens of them basically hailing Satan. I mean, do Ron Paul fans go to the rallies throwing the horns to him up on the stage? I don&#8217;t know, but I think most of them would never use that sign because they consider it to be something sinister. Right? </p>
<p>And the reason rock stars use it is because a lot of them are actually Satanists. I once heard Metallica frontman James Hetfield actually say &#8220;I like evil&#8221; with a big grin on his face and he throws the horns all the time. That is especially evident in the hardcore Satanic concerts where they have the inverted pentagram on the stage and everybody is throwing the horns. Everybody. Alex Jones&#8217; friend Joe Rogan uses it. There is a photo of it over on Spiritually Smart where he and Stanton Lavey (Anton&#8217;s grandson) are both flashing it and on Rogan&#8217;s t-shirt it says &#8216;666&#8242;. It is the sign of Satan. I&#8217;m not even a Christian, but I know what it means and I would never use it. I don&#8217;t like that shit. </p>
<p>It is very possible that these two kids were fed a message to at least think about this hair-brained plot. It could have been given directly, or more subliminally. Yes, they also could have thought it up all on their own, but again, the messages from above in the SWA would have been extremely negative on Obama. So this is coming out of, at the very least, the relentless brainwashing that goes on in these cults. I think one of the main things to get from this article is that Cowart was very well thought of and people were shocked to find this out about him. To me, it shows he has been under a bad influence which is a type of control.</p>
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		<title>By: Flameboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flameboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said pj, I remember seening this video on youtube about Ron Paul using the satanic/rockstar hand sign alot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmmef_cpfE
Why would a guy like him use this sign ? He doesnt strike me as a big rock&#039;n&#039;roll type guy. Then what could it mean ? Is it just a coincidence, maybe, but after all ive seen the last few years, my bet would be that it is not a coincidence. And that it actually has a hidden meaning. 
As with these two young men, I dont know what really has been going on. But their plans seem very far out, unrealistic and suicidal - so they must have been under some heavy psychological influence in order to seriously go for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said pj, I remember seening this video on youtube about Ron Paul using the satanic/rockstar hand sign alot. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmmef_cpfE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmmef_cpfE</a><br />
Why would a guy like him use this sign ? He doesnt strike me as a big rock&#8217;n'roll type guy. Then what could it mean ? Is it just a coincidence, maybe, but after all ive seen the last few years, my bet would be that it is not a coincidence. And that it actually has a hidden meaning.<br />
As with these two young men, I dont know what really has been going on. But their plans seem very far out, unrealistic and suicidal &#8211; so they must have been under some heavy psychological influence in order to seriously go for this.</p>
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		<title>By: pjwalker911</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjwalker911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely. I would never say that real homegrown racism doesn&#039;t exist, but that usually the more extreme forms of it are orchestrated from the top down with a specific purpose in mind. It&#039;s the same with political parties, at least the bigger ones. All these things involve big money, secret society manipulation and ulterior motives. Their members at the bottom are mere pawns while their leaders are actually working for the shadow government a good portion of the time. 

I recall how many in the patriot movement looked up to Bo Gritz and one of their leaders, but then it turns out he spit on 9/11 truthers by casting them as wackos, and the man is a Freemason Zionist of course, and an FBI informant. Even though he was seen as &quot;one of ours&quot;, he turned out to be an operative all along. Another &quot;great patriot&quot; leader of the revolution is Ron Paul who also publicly condemned 9/11 truthers as wackos. We find out that his wife is a member of Eastern Star which usually means the husband is a Mason. I personally do not trust him either for numerous reasons. 

We saw the same thing in Ireland where top level British Intelligence were at the highest levels of the IRA ordering bombings and assassinations. This stuff must be stopped and the only way is for people to get educated about the mind-manipulation that is designed to mislead, divide and conquer.

This is why it is important to avoid large organizations and well-funded movements because chances are, they were set up by the Masonic intelligence agencies to begin with. A broad-based, leaderless, decentralized mass freedom movement is the only way to go. And look, if certain people want to congregate within their own race, that is their choice, but I do believe that most people want to get along with all races and generally, a principle of racial tolerance and acceptance is the healthiest for society. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely. I would never say that real homegrown racism doesn&#8217;t exist, but that usually the more extreme forms of it are orchestrated from the top down with a specific purpose in mind. It&#8217;s the same with political parties, at least the bigger ones. All these things involve big money, secret society manipulation and ulterior motives. Their members at the bottom are mere pawns while their leaders are actually working for the shadow government a good portion of the time. </p>
<p>I recall how many in the patriot movement looked up to Bo Gritz and one of their leaders, but then it turns out he spit on 9/11 truthers by casting them as wackos, and the man is a Freemason Zionist of course, and an FBI informant. Even though he was seen as &#8220;one of ours&#8221;, he turned out to be an operative all along. Another &#8220;great patriot&#8221; leader of the revolution is Ron Paul who also publicly condemned 9/11 truthers as wackos. We find out that his wife is a member of Eastern Star which usually means the husband is a Mason. I personally do not trust him either for numerous reasons. </p>
<p>We saw the same thing in Ireland where top level British Intelligence were at the highest levels of the IRA ordering bombings and assassinations. This stuff must be stopped and the only way is for people to get educated about the mind-manipulation that is designed to mislead, divide and conquer.</p>
<p>This is why it is important to avoid large organizations and well-funded movements because chances are, they were set up by the Masonic intelligence agencies to begin with. A broad-based, leaderless, decentralized mass freedom movement is the only way to go. And look, if certain people want to congregate within their own race, that is their choice, but I do believe that most people want to get along with all races and generally, a principle of racial tolerance and acceptance is the healthiest for society.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;I’m not sure what you guys are trying to imply with this article. Why not come out and say it? That is unless you are to scared to admit that you actualy believe this is some sort of psy OP and that there are no rascists in America. You Europeans are sometimes quite out of touch with what the fuck is going on on the ground. have a nice day.&quot;
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I suppose what I would say is that very few human beings have the inhumane instinct to kill or harm another human being regardless of race unless some sort of severe brain washing took place. I suppose I want to feel that humans such as white Europeans are innately good, and that puppet masters from above have to intervene to force them to act cruelly. Remember that in WWII 80% of soldiers consistently misfired their guns at the enemy. It takes considerable will to act against the human instinct to torture or kill another human regardless of skin color. I think these hate organizations need a lot of help from secret societies and intel agencies to do their evil. I don&#039;t know about these two teenage boys, but it has happened this way so many times before. I recommend you see &quot;Full Metal Jacket&quot; to see mind trip required to act against normal human compassion.</description>
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<p>&#8220;I’m not sure what you guys are trying to imply with this article. Why not come out and say it? That is unless you are to scared to admit that you actualy believe this is some sort of psy OP and that there are no rascists in America. You Europeans are sometimes quite out of touch with what the fuck is going on on the ground. have a nice day.&#8221;<br />
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<p>I suppose what I would say is that very few human beings have the inhumane instinct to kill or harm another human being regardless of race unless some sort of severe brain washing took place. I suppose I want to feel that humans such as white Europeans are innately good, and that puppet masters from above have to intervene to force them to act cruelly. Remember that in WWII 80% of soldiers consistently misfired their guns at the enemy. It takes considerable will to act against the human instinct to torture or kill another human regardless of skin color. I think these hate organizations need a lot of help from secret societies and intel agencies to do their evil. I don&#8217;t know about these two teenage boys, but it has happened this way so many times before. I recommend you see &#8220;Full Metal Jacket&#8221; to see mind trip required to act against normal human compassion.</p>
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