“There is rhetoric that suggests that since you take a secret oath to keep this organization secret, you will be killed if you share this information.”
These men have been to my home. They have gone into my bedroom to get their coats and have seen pictures of naked guys on my walls, and then they have come back again afterward. I have not seen any evidence of discrimination in my lodge. I believe there are many gay men in the Masons. That is just my opinion. Gay people love pageantry, we love rituals, and we love secrets. We already feel like we live in a secret society with secret codes — with “gaydar” and stuff like that. My gaydar was going off at my particular lodge.
Yes. They have secret rituals. There are even secret rituals that people do in public life. For instance, President Washington, who was a Mason, performed secret rituals on all the buildings he was involved with building. He had a late-night ritual to prepare the building for good luck and to increase its power.
The Knights Templar were supposedly stamped out in the early 1300s. The Masons as we know started in the early 1700s. It is said that many of the rituals and information used to start the Masons came from whatever scraps of information were known about several religious organizations that were stamped out, including the Knights Templar. What we know as American Masonry is based on Judaism, as well as Moslem, Islamic and Christian influences.
Are there initiation ceremonies?
There are initiation ceremonies.
Can you describe them?
Can you say if they involve costumes or nudity?
They involve costumes and partial nudity.
Are there any other kind of meetings at all?
You mean the mass sex meetings? The “suck the gristle out of Mary Magdalene’s bones” meetings? [Laughs.]
How do the Masons ensure that members keep the truly confidential aspects of the organization to themselves?
First of all, I am not telling your readers anything that is going to get me in trouble.
How do you know that?
Because everything I’m telling you about I’ve either read online, or seen on TV. What I am not telling you is the actual words, events and lessons that happen during my installation. To get back to your question, the initiation is so laborious and so hard. It forces you to find the reasons in your heart as to why you want to be in this organization. You struggle so hard to be in this organization that I believe you must really want to be in it, and want to respect that secrecy. That being said, there is rhetoric that suggests that since you take a secret oath to keep this organization secret, you will be killed if you share this information.
Wasn’t someone kidnapped and supposedly murdered in the 1800s for threatening to reveal Masonry secrets?
Yes, his name was Captain Morgan. There was another incident in Long Island, where someone was shot a dozen years ago or so in a Masonic lodge. But in truth, it’s all symbolic. They want you to believe this is important, and they want you to accept that it’s important.
Do people try and infiltrate this organization for the purpose of exposing these secrets?
Yes, I think people attempt it. But there is so much work involved in becoming a member that I think it prevents that from actually happening. But there is a backdrop where there is a threat of murder.