Blackwater: Knights of Malta in Iraq

“The Knights of Malta are the militia of the Pope, and are sworn to total obedience by a blood oath which is taken extremely seriously and to the death. The Pope as the head of the Vatican is also the head of a foreign national power.”

-”Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences” by Albert G. Mackey 33rd degree Mason, published by the Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, & London, 1925: (Volume One, pp. 392-95)

“The painful saga of modern Arab-Muslim history evokes the battles fought in Crusades of the 11th centry – when the Knights of Malta began their operations as a Christian militia whose mission it was to defend the land conquered by the Crusaders. These memories return violently to mind with the discovery of links between the so-called security firms in Iraq such as Blackwater have historic links with the Order of Malta. You cannot exaggerate it. The Order of Malta is a hidden government or the most mysterious government in the world.”

- Jordanian MP Jamal Muhammad Abidat, from an editorial in the United Arab Emirates daily Al-Bayan entitled “The Knights of Malta – more than a conspiracy”. Abidat describes the role played by the Knights of Malta during the Crusades, and that the Order is playing a similar role in the Middle East today, citing the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Successor to Fascist Dictator Francisco Franco and Knight of Malta, King Juan Carlos, with Grand Master of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, Andrew Cardinal Bertie, 2000

Blackwater is more than just a “private army”, much more than just another capitalist war-profiteering business operation. It is an army operating outside all laws, outside and above the US Constitution and yet is controlled by people within and outside our government whose allegiance is primarily to the foreign Vatican state. In other words, Blackwater is a religious army serving the Pope in Rome through the Order of Malta, which is itself considered under international law, as a sovereign entity with special diplomatic powers and privileges. Like Blackwater, the Order of Malta is “untouchable” because it is at the heart of the elite aristocracy.

Knight of Malta Amschel Mayer Rothschild (1744–1812)

The Knights of Malta is not merely a “charitable organization”. That’s just an elaborate front, as should become clear to you later. As the name Sovereign Military Order of Malta confirms, it is a military order based on the crusader Knights Hospitaller of Jerusalem and is interwoven with Freemasonry. Most people have never even heard of SMOM, much less that it is a part of Freemasonry. But that is the way the aristocratic elite like it.

knights_hospitallerOne of the symbols of the military orders of the Vatican, the masonic double-headed eagle emblazoned with the Maltese cross, signifies omnipotent royal dominion over both East and West. The orb signifies temporal dominion over the globe of Earth, and the scepter signifies control over the spiritual and religious impulses of humanity. This eagle symbol is used in the masonic rite of Memphis and Misraim, under which it reads, “Order Out of Chaos”, the Hegelian method of crisis creation. It is found on the seals of many European and Eurasian nation states including that of Russia, indicating direct Vatican control over those countries. It symbolizes the desire of a predatory elite with virtually unlimited resources, to totally dominate the entire world under a New World Order global government system using secrecy, manipulation, coercion and terror with the ends justifying the means.

See: Double-Headed Eagle Symbol at Wikipedia

The two-headed eagle emblem of the Byzantine Empire (Roman Empire) on a Red Shield was adopted in 1743 by the infamous goldsmith Amschel Moses Bauer. He opened a coin shop in Frankfurt, Germany and hung above his door this Roman eagle on a red shield. The shop became known as the “Red Shield firm”. The German word for ‘red shield’ is Rothschild. After this point, the Rothschilds became the bankers to kings and pontiffs alike, among the richest families in the world. Ever since, they have financed both sides of every major war and revolution using the Hegelian Dialectic to engineer society toward their New World Order.

The Rothschilds and their agents, such as the Rockefellers, have been engineering America and its foreign policy almost since its inception. They and their Skull and Bones Wall Street partners staged and funded both sides in WWII, and out of that hellish nightmare was born their infant global government, the United Nations, and their tool of tyranny, the CIA. The father of the CIA, “Wild Bill” Donovan, was a Knight of Malta. In order to be a director of the CIA you must be a crusading Knight of Malta and it doesn’t hurt if you are a member of Skull and Bones either. In order to reach the highest levels in the Pentagon establishment, you must be an illuminated Freemason and/or a Knight of one order or another. Notable US military members of SMOM include top crusading generals such as Alexander Haig, William Westmoreland, and Charles A. Willoughby, an admitted Fascist.

Other notable members include:

Alan Keyes
Alberto Moscato
Albrecht Freiherr von Boeselager
Alexander Haig JR.
Alexandre de Marenches
Allen Dulles
Anatoli M. Golitsin
Anthony Blunt
Antony Blair
Anthony Charles Zinni
Augusto Pinochet
Avery Dulles
Avro Manhattan
Benito Mussolini
Bernard Francis Law
Bernard Jensen
Bowie Kuhn
Burton Gerber
Carlo Marullo di Condojanni
Cartha D. DeLoach
Charles Joseph Bonaparte
Charlie Rose
Clare Boothe Luce
Clay L. Shaw
Conrad Hilton
Count Umberto Ortolani
Darrell Issa
David Rockefeller
Drolor Bosso Adamtey I
Ed Artis
Edward G. Landsdale
Edward L. Hennessy, Jr.
Emilio T. Gonzalez
Fidel Castro
Francis D. Flanagan
Francis (Frank) V. Ortiz
Francis L. Kellogg
Frank Capra
Frank C Carlucci
Frank Sinatra
Franz von Papen
Frederic von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
Fritz Thyssen
Gen Charles A. Willoughby
General de Lorenzo
General Mark Clark
General Richard Stilwell
General Vernon A. Walters
Gen Lemuel C. Shepherd
George Herbert Walker Bush
George MacDonald
George P. Shultz
George Rocca
George Tenet
George W. Anderson
Gerald Coughlin
Gerard T Lagleder
Gerard R. Roche
Valéry Giscard d’Estaing
Guy Stair Sainty
Ham Shirvani
Harold A.R. ‘Kim’ Philby
Harry Luke
Heinrich Himmler
Henry R. Luce
Herman Schmidt
Hilario Davide
Holland (Holly) Coors
Jack Singlaub
James A. Farrell
James Jesus Angleton
James J. Phelan
Jeane Kirkpatrick
J. Edgar Hoover
Jeffery Coors
Joe Coors
John Robert Bolton
John Farrell
John Jakob Raskob
John A. McCone
John Philby
John Stuttard
Jose Antonio Linati-Bosch
Joseph Brennan
Joseph Edward Schmitz
Joseph Kennedy
Joseph Peter Grace
Joseph Retinger
Juan Carlos I
Juan Peron
Kim Philby
Konrad Adenauer
Kurt Waldheim
Lee Iacocca
Leonard George Horowitz
Licio Gelli
Louis Mortimer Bloomfield
John McShain
Michael Bloomberg
Michael Chertoff
Nelson Mandela
Nicholas F. Brady
Oliver North
Otto von Habsburg
Patrick Joseph Buchanan
Pete Domenici
Phyllis Schlafly
Precott Bush, Jr.
Prince Massimo Spada
Prince Valerio Borghese
Raymond Barre
Raymond Flynn
Raymond J Heuchling
Raymond Rocca
Reinhard Gehlen
Richard Campbell
Richard Dick Price
Richard Riordan
Rick Joyner
Rick Santorum
Ricky Skaggs
Robert L. Shafer
Robert Zoellick
Ronald Reagan
Rudolph Giuliani
Rupert Murdoch
Sir Stewart Menzies
Spiros S. Skouras
Ted Kennedy
Thomas ‘Tip’ O’Neill
“Tony” Anthony Charles Lynton Blair
Victor Emmanuel
Walter Isaacson
Walter Paepcke
William F. Buckley, Jr.
William J. Casey
William Egan Colby
William “Wild Bill” Joseph Donovan
William Randolph Hearst
William Westmoreland
Winston Churchill

Complete listing of SMOM members at:

911: Knights and Dames of Malta

Such a list should make you sit up and pay attention, but it is only the tip of the iceberg unfortunately. Then we come to another SMOM member, important to what is transpiring in Iraq. Educated at the Jesuit Georgetown University, former Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Edward Schmitz, Blackwater’s operations chief, is a member of both SMOM and Opus Dei.

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Former Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Edward Schmitz quit in 2005 to work for Blackwater. He is a member of Opus Dei and Knights of Malta.

The Knights of Malta in Iraq?

Malta Star | Sep 29, 2007

An American investigative journalist compared the US firm Blackwater, the biggest security services provider in post war Iraq, to the Knights of Malta.

The company is currently in the midst of a controversy after some of its 20,000 personnel stationed in Iraq killed a number of civilians.

In his book, ‘Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army’, Jeremy Scahill links the modern security firm to the Knights of Malta.

The writer argues that “Blackwater’s employees… share the same religious zeal of ancient crusaders”, the Egyptian weekly newspaper Al-Ahram reported.

All the top Nazis in our government are connected in some way to the Vatican, Jesuits and Knights of Malta and have been for decades, as were the Italian Fascists and German Nazis of WWII. After all, what was their favorite symbol after the swastika? The Maltese Cross of course!

Catholic Nazi Connections

These SMOM knights are behind most of the trouble in the world and they must be exposed as the criminals that they are. They are not nice people helping the poor, though they use good people in the lower ranks as useful idiots. They are behind drug-trafficking, assassinations, most wars, communism, fascism, feudalism, theocracy, Nazism, Zionism, globalization, crime-syndicates, major terrorist events, a new torture inquisition, total information surveillance, economic collapses, social demoralization and seek to completely enslave the human species in a global Big Brother totalitarian regime as they kill off the majority of us in the process. In fact, all of it has either come to pass or is in the process of being implemented. We are on the brink of WWIII which has been entirely staged by these profoundly evil men. Therefore, we have no time left for pussyfooting around.

But don’t take my word for it, do you your own research, find out and expose them yourself before these dirty Blackwater mercenary thugs are allowed to patrol American streets and confiscate guns during the next staged disaster. We can’t let this happen in America.

James Jesus Angleton (L), chief of the CIA’s counter-intelligence staff from 1954-1975, and Reagan-era CIA Director William Casey (R) were both members of the Knights of Malta.

For a more recent statements on the connections between the Knights of Malta and the military/intelligence establishment see:

Seymour Hersh targeted: Matthew Phelan writes on the fallout from his exposure of the Knights of Malta conspiracy

BlackWater coming to a disaster near you.

Further Google the following:

P-2 freemasonry, Gladio, Nazi Concordat, Vatican CIA, Knights Templar, Order of the Seraphim, Order of the Garter, Hospitallers, Sovereign Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, Knights of Malta, SMOM, Knights of Rhodes, Illuminati, 9/11, Jesuits, Opus Dei, Black Pope, Maltese Cross, Fascism, Zionism, Blackwater Katrina, etc

Combine these in various searches to uncover the linkages.

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The highest levels of Freemasonry, including and especially, the Knights of Malta and the Royal Orders of Chivalry are guided by the Vatican, the hub of both religious and temporal power on planet Earth.

Detail from the “Steps of Freemasonry” showing the York Rite degrees of the orders Knights Templar and Knights of Malta at the highest levels.

Order of the Knights of Malta

See also:

Freemasonry in Malta

Many knights of the Order of St. John and some of the Maltese nobility were freemasons. In 1756, the Grand Master of the Order was a freemason named E. Pinto de Fonseca. De Rohan, who was Grandmaster of the Order of St. John between 1775 and 1797, is reported also to have been a freemason, and is said to have helped the spread of freemasonry in Malta…This lodge noted in its petition that the most important members of the Order of St. John ranked amongst its membership. The lodge obtained an English warrant as the Lodge of St. John of Secrecy and Harmony.
The Rite of Misraïm

Since 1738, one can find traces of this Rite filled with alchemical, occult and Egyptian references, with a structure of 90 degrees. Joseph Balsamo, called Cagliostro, a key character of his time, known how to give it the impulse necessary for its development. Very close to the Grand Master of the Order of the Knights of Malta, Manual Pinto de Fonseca, Cagliostro founded the Rite of High Egyptian Masonry in 1784. He received, between 1767 and 1775, from Sir Knight Luigi d’Aquino, the brother of the national Grand Master of Neapolitan Masonry, the Arcana Arcanorum, three very high hermetic degrees. In 1788, he introduced them into the Rite of Misraïm and gave a patent to this Rite.

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The picture that proves ‘torture flights’ are STILL landing in the UK (and Malta)

The European Parliament report describes these as shell companies operating as subsidiaries of Blackwater USA, ‘an important contractor for the CIA and the US military’ which bases the planes in Malta. Tracking technology shows that the plane was en route from Canada to Greenland two days before it was sighted at Mildenhall: the internet software does not extend beyond American airspace, but the expert explained that its route would be consistent with a refuelling stop in the Arctic – it only has a range of about 2,000 miles – followed by a further refuel in East Anglia, before heading to Malta.

Malta ‘is Blackwater’s operational base’

A European Parliament working document drawn up by Giovanni Claudio Fava has claimed “Malta is the operational base of Blackwater, the organiser of private military militia which are increasingly taking on more and more roles which used to be undertaken by US forces in Iraq and elsewhere”. In 2004, Cofer Black passed from CIA to the State Department and thence became Blackwater’s vice-president. While still in the CIA, Black was in charge of the “special extraditions” organising the secret transfer of prisoners from Iraq or Afghanistan to countries less rigid against the practice of torture, such as Poland, Romania, Egypt, and so on. These planes, which travelled between Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo and Afghanistan often made stopovers in many European countries such as the UK, Italy, France, Germany and Malta many times without the countries themselves being informed what was going on. Now the Swiss procurator Dick Marty has sent documents regarding the “CIA’s flying prisons” to the European Parliament and names two Blackwater subsidiaries – Presidential Airways and Aviation Worldwide Services.

Blackwater’s Owner Has Spies for Hire

Ex-U.S. Intelligence Operatives Dot Firm’s Roster

First it became a brand name in security for its work in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now it’s taking on intelligence. The Prince Group, the holding company that owns Blackwater Worldwide, has been building an operation that will sniff out intelligence about natural disasters, business-friendly governments, overseas regulations and global political developments for clients in industry and government. The operation, Total Intelligence Solutions, has assembled a roster of former spooks — high-ranking figures from agencies such as the CIA and defense intelligence — that mirrors the slate of former military officials who run Blackwater. Its chairman is Cofer Black, the former head of counterterrorism at CIA known for his leading role in many of the agency’s more controversial programs, including the rendition and interrogation of al-Qaeda suspects and the detention of some of them in secret prisons overseas.

Bush’s Shadow Army

Blackwater has repeatedly cited Rumsfeld’s statement that contractors are part of the “Total Force” as evidence that it is a legitimate part of the nation’s “warfighting capability and capacity.” Invoking Rumsfeld’s designation, the company has in effect declared its forces above the law — entitled to the immunity from civilian lawsuits enjoyed by the military, but also not bound by the military’s court martial system. While the initial inquiries into Blackwater have focused on the complex labyrinth of secretive subcontracts under which it operates in Iraq, a thorough investigation into the company reveals a frightening picture of a politically connected private army that has become the Bush Administration’s Praetorian Guard.

Blackwater’s impunity

Neither Iraqi nor U.S. laws apply to its contractors, so a controversial shooting may go unpunished. ‘They can get away with murder” has been the cry of critics of hiring private companies such as Blackwater to provide security for the U.S. military and diplomats in Iraq and other war zones. Now it looks as though the critics may be right — and in the worst way.

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Pope Benedict with SMOM Grandmaster Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie

Knights of Malta

The Sovereign Military Order of Malta, also known as the original Sovereign Military Order of St. John of Jerusalem, is a closed fraternity of the Roman Catholic Church. Its initiated members must be Catholic and have served in the military. They participate in secret ceremonies and feudal ritual dress, and embrace a strong class/caste mentality as part of their initiation into Rosicrucian dogma.

The upper grades are fastidiously aristocratic and must be able to display a family coat-of-arms dating back at least 300 years in unbroken succession from father to son. The Sovereign Grand Master of the order is recognized as a head of state, and his authority is ensured by his secular ranking as a Prince, and his ecclesiastical ranking as a Cardinal. Under international law this organization has independent Sovereign status, which assures nationalistic loyalty from its members, above and beyond allegience to their own country–they also have Permanent Observer status at the United Nations. The current Grand Master, Andrew Willoughby Bertie, is descended from Mary Stuart (Mary Queen of Scots) which places him firmly in the Sion/Grail historical scenario.

The order and its members have been proven to be linked with the “Rat Run”, the post-WWII escape route used by high-ranking Nazis and death camp scientists from defeated Germany to the Americas. Sovereign Knight of Malta passports were issued with false identities that allowed escape from prosecution for war crimes.

The privatisation of security in Iraq threatens more than innocent civilians

The killing of 11 civilians in Baghdad two weeks ago has once again put Blackwater on the spot. The US security firm first came into the public eye in early April 2004, when four of its personnel were killed and mutilated by mobs in Falluja. Although Iraqi religious parties denounced the attacks at the time, Bush gave the town four days to deliver the perpetrators before ordering an all-out attack, one in which thousands of Falluja inhabitants perished. In his book, Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army, American investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill links the modern security firm to the Knights of Malta, an offshoot of the Knights Templar. Blackwater’s employees, he argues, share the same religious zeal of ancient crusaders.

US Theocons Fight Battle in Iraq

Many has been written about the privatization of the Iraq war, but in his new bestseller book Jeremy Scahill sheds much needed light on the ideological roots of the largest US private mercenary firm and its links to the theocons and the Christian militia Sovereign Military Order of Malta. Prince, writes Scahill, shows how “politically powerful Christian fundamentalists and Neocons are pressing forward with their battle for what they call ‘freedom’ and ‘democracy.’” He has connections with conservative Catholic groups and funds rightwing organizations through his Freiheit Foundation. Senior Blackwater executives such as Joseph Schmitz do not only subscribe to the theocon ideology but are also members of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, a Christian militia that had a mission of defending territories the Crusaders captured from Muslims.

Schmitz, says Scahill, “comes from one of the most bizarre, scandal-plagued, right-wing political families in US history.” The Sovereign Military Order of Malta began as a Christian charity in Al-Quds in 1080 to provide care for poor and sick pilgrims to the Holy Land. After the conquest of the holy city in 1095 during the First Crusade it became a Catholic Military Order. After the Muslims restored Al-Quds, the Order operated from Rhodes and later from Malta where it administered a vassal state under the Spanish viceroy of Sicily. The Order’s fighters, known as the Knights Hospitaller, helped the Crusaders in raids on Muslim countries near the coasts of Italy, including Tunisia, Libya and Morocco. The Sovereign Military Order of Malta is now a state located in Rome and is recognized by 50 countries worldwide.

BLACKWATER CHIEF JOSEPH E. SCHMITZ:
KNIGHT OF MALTA

Joseph Edward Schmitz is the son of the late John G. Schmitz, former California State Senator, Member of the U.S. House of Representatives, and U.S. Presidential candidate (1972). Columba Bush’s sister is married to John P. Schmitz, a beneficiary of the fellowship programs subsumed under the Carl Duisberg gesellschaft and the brother of Joseph Schmitz, currently the head of the Blackwater security outfit. John P. Schmitz has close links to the elder George Bush, the 9/11 milieu…

Ex-Pentagon IG Joseph Schmitz At Prince/Blackwater

Joseph Schmitz is active in the Washington Lawyers’ Chapter of the right-wing Federalist Society, the same group with which the new Chief Justice John G. Roberts was affiliated. Schmitz is also a member of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. Schmitz was accused of covering up several investigations into fraud, waste and abuse within the Rumsfeld Pentagon.

Joseph E. Schmitz: Georgetown, Opus Dei and Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

Joseph Edward Schmitz is an American lawyer, former Inspector General of the Department of Defense and executive with Blackwater USA, a private contractor providing security services to the U.S. military.Schmitz attended Catholic schools as a child and Georgetown Preparatory School while his father served in Congress. He is a member of Opus Dei and the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

General Joseph Schmitz member of the Sovereign Order of Malta

In addition to Prince, “A number of Blackwater executives are deeply conservative Christians, including corruption-smeared former Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Schmitz, who is also a member of the Sovereign Order of Malta, which Scahill describes as ‘a Christian militia formed in the eleventh century [to defend] territories that the Crusaders had conquered from the Moslems,’” Chris Barsanti wote in a review of the book for In These Times. Blackwater USA is the brainchild of Erik Prince — a former Navy SEAL and son of Edgar Prince, a wealthy Michigan auto-parts supplier — described by Scahill as a “radical right wing Christian mega-millionaire” who is a strong financial backer of President George W. Bush, as well as a donor to a host of conservative Christian political causes.

In the 1980s “the Prince family merged with one of the most venerable conservative families in the United States,” when Erik’s sister Betsy — nine years his senior — married Dick DeVos, whose father Richard, founded the multilevel marketing firm Amway. The two families exercised enormous political influence both inside and outside Michigan. “They were one of the greatest bankrollers of far-right causes in U.S. history, and with their money they propelled extremist Christian politicians and activists to positions of prominence,” Scahill writes.

The Knights Templar, Knights of Malta and Blackwater’s Erik Prince

The Order of Knights Hospitalers, St. John, Rhodes and Malta

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Conspiracy Archive for the ‘Knights of Malta’

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567 responses to “Blackwater: Knights of Malta in Iraq

  1. John Adams, wrote to Thomas Jefferson “I do not like the late resurrection of the Jesuits. Shall we not have swarms of them here, in as many shapes and disguises as ever a gypsy king assumed. If any congregation of men could merit eternal perdition on earth and in hell, it is this company of Loyola.”

    “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.” — James Madison

  2. How does the researcher get the list of who were and are members of the Orders, like SMOM? I wouldn’t think such information is that easily obtained.

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  4. wow thats new a attack on Catholic Church , It the freemason that worship the devil and yes they try to act liek your with the church get a friggin clue

  5. Oooh, I’m scared. What are you going do, excommunicate me?

    You are the one who needs to get a clue. The high-level Freemasons like the Kings and Queens of Europe and the Zionist bankers all bow to the Pope, Roman “Emperor of the World”. The New World Order is the Roman Empire.

    Learn some spelling and grammar while you’re at it.

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  7. Joesph Schmitz is the brother of Mary Kay Letourneau, the teacher who has an affair with her middle school student, went to prison, and is now married to the student. Family get-togethers with that group must be a real hoot.

  8. When I read about the 4 Blackwater personnel that were killed by mobs in Fallujah I immediately thought of a parallel from ww2. In 1942 Czech partisans am-bush-ed and killed the infamous nazi Reinhard Heydrich. In exacting revenge Hitler ordered the complete destruction of the town of Lidice and the murder of all its citizens. In 2004 George Bush gave the town of Fallujah 4 days(one day for each SS,er I mean, Blackwater agent killed?) to deliver the perpetrators before ordering the attack which killed thousands of ITS citizens.The world has seen this movie before. In the 1940′s Hitler had his praetorian guard-the SS. Today Bush has his-Blackwater.

  9. My friend, my fellow Adama,
    let us regain the stolen Paradise,
    and reclaim earth’s garden,
    we have tasted the fruit
    of knowledge, we are as gods.
    Look beyond the veil of maya,
    draw back the flimsy curtain,
    expose the lizard wizard.

    God is not love, man is love.
    God is a lie, a magician’s trick,
    a device for divide and conquer,
    the hidden sleight-of-hand
    of the vampire brood.
    We are amnesiacs, stacked
    naked and pell-mell in
    the slave ship of State.

  10. The original organisation founded 900 years is actually called the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order Of St. John Of Jerusalem, Of Rhodes & Of Malta. It is a catholic organisation. There are a number of other organisations which may call themselves knights of Malta but they have no link to the original .

    You are confusing three or four different organisations together and coming up with something which is completely unrelated to all of them. Blackwater executives may be members of one of the other organisations but not this one, which requires you not just to be catholic but also of noble birth, which would rule out citizens of the USA, for instance.

    Get your facts right and stop raving. Silly nutter!!!!

  11. Mike, maybe you are right. Maybe I am just confused, because I admit is is a terribly intricate and confusing subject. I am actually sincerely trying to get my facts straight, and I appreciate your help in that endeavor. If you don’t mind, I would like to ask you a couple of questions to clear up my mind.

    Are you saying there is absolutely no connection, alliance or relationship between SMOM, the Alliance of the Orders of St. John and the The Order of Malta American Association?

    Which order do you belong to? And at what rank?

    Why is it necessary to be of noble birth, join by invitation only and attend a secret initiation ceremony to become a member what is merely a charity for comforting the poor and the sick?

    Why would a charity need to be a sovereign military entity with it’s own passports and diplomatic immunity?

    Why were all the top Nazis members of SMOM?

    Why are all the directors of the CIA Knights of Malta?

    Why did the SMOM give fake passports to the Nazis and allow them to escape down the Vatican Ratlines to the Americas?

    Why did the DoD website say Joseph E. Schmitz was a member of SMOM? And if the DoD website was lying, which Order of Malta were they talking about?

    Since you know a lot more than me, I thought maybe you could answer all these questions quite easily.

    Thanks

    All the best

    PW

  12. What is wrong with my country that it is allowing this fiendish cabal to destroy it? Well, as you say, and as I agree, this country was always the tool of these bastards anyway! So I guess we are fulfilling our destiny: the purpose for which we were founded; the instrument for the final, irreversible enslavement of mankind.

    I hate to admit it, but we deserve what is happening to us. for more than a century, ever since we started acquiring our “non-empire,” we helped impose dictatorial regimes in countries across the world, against the will of their people, in order to exploit their resources or fulfil some geopolitical objective, all the while lying to ourselves and the world that we were spreading “democracy” and “freedom.” Now, what we have long done to others is being done to us! It is as though we are receiving, at long last, the judgement of God for our crimes.

  13. Destruction of the “Invincible” Spanish Armada…

    http://www.reformation.org/spanish-armada.html

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  16. okay, so I’m dying to know if “Mike” is ever going to respond to the questions posed, above. after googling many of the terms and orders mentioned here, my fears of what is transpiring globally have compounded. I’d love to hear someone actually address these issues. several books have come out recently about these secret orders and their engineering of global politics and economy and, and and. . . Blackwater, Haliburton, Bush; it all pisses me off. are we supposed to sit idly by and be their sea monkeys?

  17. Wow, talk about going off the deep end… For a basic primer on the actual workings of the Knights of Malta (and similar orders) in history and today, let me recommend The Monks of War by Desmond Seward. Knowing several Knights of Malta personally (as well as Knights of the Holy Sepulchre and Constantinian Knights) and having done a decent amount of work on medieval history, let me say that this post is complete drivel.

  18. Oh really Aaron? So who are these “several Knights of Malta, Knights of the Holy Sepulchre and Constantinian Knights”? Would you care to let us know? And what orders are you a member of? Or is that a secret?

    And since you know so much, tell us what parts of this “drivel” as you call it is in error. Then please provide your corrections. And don’t nit-pick. Stick to the essentials.

    I’m ready to debate. Are you?

    I will take your lack of response as proof that you’re just blowing smoke.

  19. Three days later and no word from our friend Aaron. I knew he would chicken out because, though I admit the “article” is not a polished magazine piece, I did try to stick to the facts. And you cannot logically refute the facts Aaron. You can only attempt to deride the facts by calling them “drivel”.

    Does the double eagle represent both temporal and spiritual dominance over the entire planet? The answer is yes.

    Do the SMOM knights take a terrible blood oath to serve and obey the Pope? Do they also give their allegiance to the Vatican and to SMOM over and above their home country? The answer is yes, and yes again, because they have become citizens or denizens of the Vatican and of the Sovereign SMOM. They are like double agents, and dual citizens once they have been initiated into the cult.

    Is SMOM part of the overall superstructure of Freemasonry? Yes, of course.

    Are all the royals and many of the heads of state members of the cult? Oh but of course.

    Were all the top Nazi bastards SMOM? Yes again.

    Were all the heads of the CIA and top US generals SMOM? Yes again.

    Did the SMOM Ratlines get the Nazi killers out to safety in the Americas for Operation Paperclip? Yes, the answer is yes.

    Is the murderous Nazi-SS-like immune-from-prosecution Blackwater run by a corrupt American SMOM agent? Yes, I am afraid so. Did $2-3 trillion just go missing during his Pentagon watch as inspector general when he, the fox, was watching the chicken coup? Yup, you can’t dispute it

    You see, the people (very few mind you) who get mad at me for publishing this piece, are the guilty parties themselves. They cannot refute anything I said because they know its all true. They just don’t like having the truth put out into the light of day this way. They know most people never even heard of SMOM, much less that they are running the war, so they really want to keep that quiet. They prefer that people blame the Jews for all our problems and that is what many people do. I am not denying a strong Jewish, that is Zionist, element to the New World Order, but at least equally as strong is this Vatican SMOM element that has a deep grip on American politics and business.

    Every American should become aware that SMOM is heavily involved in the intelligence biz and in making war, in destroying our rights and in taking our wealth and sovereignty away. In short, they are a bunch of psychotic cut-throat Nazis and they have to be stopped! Period.

    PW

  20. You should do a little more research. The Catholic Church, nor any of her auxiliary organizations, have any connection to freemasonry. In fact, Church law (canon 2335) forces an automatic excommunication on any Catholic who joins the order of the free masons.

    I’m not sure where you’re getting these crazy charts. The Knights of Malta have no affiliation with the freemasons. Mormonism was born of the Masons, but Catholicism has no interest in them.

  21. Dave, you are really deceived or pig headed or something. Wake up, there is a masonic lodge right inside the vatican:

    Leo Zagami ExMason Claims Ecclesia Lodge Is In Vatican

    Zagami was a top mason and Knight of Malta. He explains how it is all tied together into the Vatican. There is a religion for the common folk and an inner religion for the elites. It has always been so!

  22. need to know much about this consipirancies

  23. Well let me start by saying that I am Maltese and just for the record the people from Malta have nothing to with all that was mentioned above. The Knights of Malta lost Malta to Napoleon a long time ago and since then Malta became an independent country. There is still a presence in Malta and I know for a fact that meetings are still held and the members of the order are no commoners.
    One can not say that the connections between the order and the Vatican are something unconceivable but I also remember from history class that most of the time the knights used to try to keep as independent as possible from the Catholic Church. One example that comes to mind is the pope wanting to give the title of cardinal to a grandmaster of the order and he refused because he did not want any conflict of interests between the order and the church. My opinion is that these organizations including the church are involved very deep in all the worlds’ riches and on these issues they all come together. A good example is the country of Malta it’s self. Although it is run by a democratic government the church still has a very strong hold on what goes on. A few decades back the church had ordered priest not to give absolution during confession if the person who was confessing was going to vote to the Labor Party. This is what I am scared off if thru their influence these people who ever they are and who ever they call themselves mange to gain power out of fear in our lives we are in great danger. We have to keep open minds and do only what feels right not because any association weather it is religious or political says so. You do not need to be a historian to see how nations where pulled around convinced they are doing the right thing and then years later they realize that they where just under the spell of a sick minded dictator. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! I admire people who delve deep into these intricate connections between these societies but I also think you do not have to go that deep to see how we are being played.

  24. Blackwater archives: to connect the dots
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/?s=Blackwater

    Keep clicking through “Previous Entries” at the bottom of each page because I have dozens of articles on this nefarious bunch posted here.

  25. Sorry Dude,
    I don’t quite understand why these idiots disagree with you and I’m kind of talkin’ in a Keanuu Reeves fashion. Let’s fucking get real people. The Knights of Malta (P2} which stands for Propaganda Lodge is directly connected with the Shriners (Bloody Fez and all that shit…) run by Dick Cheney. The Rotary Club of NYC under the supervision of Mr. Balisltriery are the people you should call concerning 9/11. Then again, it’s 11/7/2007 and I have not heard a single word on syndicated television about the impeachment…. Don’t that make you go hmmm….

  26. Most of my critics are either members of the criminal network or they have connections to it through, friends, family and associates. Make no mistake: they are very proud of their involvement and wouldn’t have it any other way. Not to mention the fact that they take blood oaths to defend their particular Order and keep the secrets.

    Then there are others who are just too stupid and degenerate to understand why all of this Illuminati business is evil and wrong. Maybe when they are choking on their own blood in some cold and dreary labor camp they will remember that I tried to wake them up.

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  28. Gentlemen!
    (and Ladies)
    After all what I just read in the comments above, I am of this opinion: All that is happening around the world today (and surely was in centuries before) is NO COINCIDENCE. Everything is orchestrated and for a reason. How many of you are rushing to work in the morning? And when you rush back home after 7-9 hours, what ecxactly do you do?
    Do you pray together, bless your family, count your blessing, play with children, go visit your parents, etc???
    I assume that you watch violence, misinterpretations and “hog-wash” on TV.
    Yo pay your mortgage, hope for the best, go to hockey/football game, blow your paycheque on newest gadgets. (Yes, I am generalizing)
    We are (and here I speak for myself, rather than you dear reader) enslaved, domesticated, fools who have no way of escaping the clutches of state control, Jesuit control and religious control. For myslef I gave up TV ~6yrs. ago, employment 10 yrs. ago and devised a way how to exist in “backwoods” but still 12 km to small town since I am not capable of better – because I am close to 60. And my body is giving up. I have read a lot, and watched a lot (anything from friends and libraries)
    It is not pretty and there is no escape. Have you tried to phone anyone lately regarding service advice or complaint? Did you not talk to someone in Mumbai in the end?
    It is all controllled by the self proclaimed elite and do not for a minute doubt that thye hate the sight of you. All they need is millions like you and Indonesia, India nad China is full and at the ready.
    By the way? Who is still working and what is the USA producing? Is the country not covered by asphalt? Are the dealers not chock-full of Expeditions and Escapades? What do you think these behemoths run on? And since we are way past PEAK OIL, where do we (westerners) get this juice? Anywhere that it is burried even if we have to bomb them bastards!
    Does your country pride itself how it cares for its citizens? See SICKO!
    How about a general or universal retirement plan?
    I could go on, but since I live in Canada, was born in a communist country 59 years ago, maybe I am not too knowlegeable on everything, sorry!
    But, please, wake up, all of you dobters, look back what you learned in school and analyse what you REALLY know obout the societies today.
    The description of developed or civilised is actually a misnomer, I believe it to be faulty. Today we are talking super-modern, ensleaved society with Mobils, credit cards, mortgages, and mega stores that are supplied with trash a stinking plastics from lands we cannot even pronounce. As long as “they” make a bigger profitMobils: why are we allowed to drive and and be glued to a Mobil??? This is insane!)
    Swindlers and liers on Wallstreet, the NYT nespaper etc, will never tell you the game, since they are running the game, and God help you if the customs, the sheriff or CIA decides to dump you without any reason into detention. Did I mentioon the IRS yet? Did you know that there is no law that you HAVE to pay your taxes? IS it not historically proven that you will never win if they decide to “jump” you? Willy Nelson anyone?
    Well, start boning up on fascism… see what you discover.
    Hail the chief!
    Hail Dick!
    And while we are at it, let’s grease the slope we are on since it will be so much quicker! (our demise as a meaningful respectful and just society – if there ever was one)
    However, I am not giving up on my personal saviour, HE will deliver me from any evil perpertrated by man, He will deliver me from Jesuits, Bush, Harper, Brown, Merkel or Sarkozy. Even Muslim, even all the infidel hating muslim.
    Amen!
    And thanks for reading.

  29. While you are free to say what you want, factual or not, you are not free to use the copyrighted design from our website. Please remove it immediately from your webpage.

    Your page keeps referring to SMOM, and our Order, the Ecumenical Order, has nothing to do with SMOM, or the Pope. Your caption under our copyrighted design is NOT the “Emblem of the Order of St John, the English Protestant ecumenical branch of the Order of Malta, which is a Catholic secret society integrated with the elaborate super-structure Freemasonry.”

    We are not an English Protestant branch of the Order of Malta. We are not a branch of the Order of Malta at all. Being Ecumenical, we are not a Catholic organization. Our Order is not and never has been a secret society nor do we have anything to do with Freemasonry.

    If your attacks are directed at SMOM for whatever reason, then perhaps you should refer to their website and not ours. Please check your facts before sharing them with the world.

  30. Thanks very much Col. Viscount Keith Carson de Mizda for your input. I have visited your website, but found no help to the sick and the poor, so will have to go look elsewhere to help out.

    Aristocracy in Europe has been threatened many times, and knowing what happened in France during the French Revolution, or in Russia during the Russian Revolution, and many more occurences, Aristocracy must be clear and open in their position towards the people.

    Adolph Hitler would kill most German Aristocracy after an attempt on his life, and from what I know, that was the plan. German Aristocracy had saved Martin Luthers life many times, so they had to be killed by the Vatican in order to strengthen militairy Roman Catholic control on the German Population.

    I would learn, that in 1945 the Knights of Malta where forced to become an extended arm of the Vatican. Also, that several orders use these names. For family members within these families this might be clear, or also not, but it is safer for Aristocracy that the population knows what games are played in Politics. Today media is a tool of many secret services, this is not productive.

    Population is controlled by spiritual controllers, the temporal control is always later, so I agree that Aristocracy is not the enemy of the people. They seek holiness also. But many false bloodlines have been created, it is very hard to find truth in the matter.

    Anyway, thanks that you help us out.
    You know more than we do, and we also want to find the real perpetrators of this stupid technological and financial corruption on a Global scale, including the War in Iraq because the Jesuits where expelled from Iraq in 1969. These should be considered the most dangerous enemy to every Aristocrat, although seen as the benefactors as they present themselves.

    As research shows today, the Knights of Malta are Temporal enforcers of the Spiritual Power of the Vatican, while Protestant Churches assist the Vatican in this Spiritual Control. Mostly Ecumenical Protestant Churches are controlled by the Vatican!

    Avro Manhattan was also a Knight of Malta, and was a great hero in defending the truth. If all Knights of Malta where like Avro Manhattan, they would be loved, and would really have some power, and many friends. Unfortunately members like Franz von Papen are more frequent, and Ecumenical might work for some, for me this word only proofs … certain things.

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  33. Lujack Skylark

    Please E-mail this list of names of the Knights of Malta. My friends would like a copy.

  34. Better yet, copy and paste the link to your email and send that to them. It is also important to do your own research. There are probably hundreds of webpages, both official and unofficial discussing this subject.

    Blackwater: Knights of Malta in Iraq
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/blackwater-knights-of-malta-in-iraq/

  35. Fairy Moon Roberts

    Mormans from Masons?????
    WHAT are you TALKING about?!

  36. The Blackwater corporate logo has illuminati symbology too. It is a militarized rendition of the all seeing eye.

    http://www.thespywhobilledme.com/the_spy_who_billed_me/WindowsLiveWriter/blacklogo2_3.jpg

  37. It is also red, possibly to signify red lodge freemasonry and has a “bear claw”- a masonic hand signal(power?).

    KBR/Haliburtons logo is a simple red square; this is also a masonic symbol and many commercial banks such as Compass and Wells Fargo use it too.

  38. Surley HE come soon, so come LORD YASHUA ELOHIM!

  39. Why haven’t you also commented on the UFO’s that the Vatican is sending to scout out landing places in the US for its troops in the big war to come? The fact that our government refuses to acknowledge them is proof that they are in cahoots.

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  41. I am a member of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM). Let me reply to some of the allegations made by some previous contributors.

    1. The SMOM is today purely a charitable and religious organisation, albeit with a long history back to the Crusades. It has some 12,000 members (Knights & Dames) worldwide and nearly 100,000 volunteers engaged in humanitarian work.

    2. Although the Order retains ‘Military’ in its title, this is purely historical and the Order is not involved in or connected with any military activity. To suggest otherwise (Blackwater etc) is to place those volunteers working in difficult circumstances in vulnerable countries in great peril.

    3. We certainly do not take a “terrible blood oath”. We make a promise (not a vow) to serve ‘Our Lords the Sick and the Poor’. Only the highest rank – Knights of Justice – take vows and these are the normal religious vows of Poverty, Chastity and Obedience (to the teachings of the Catholic Church).

    4. We do not owe allegiance to the Vatican and SMOM over and above our home countries. Joining as a member of the British Association, I first pledged my allegiance to Her Majesty The Queen before agreeing to (try to) live my life in accordance with the principles of the Catholic Church and promising to serve the Sick and the Poor to the best of my ability. SMOM is of course recognised by the Vatican – and by many countries around the world – but it is not a part of the Vatican but entirely independent with its own governance.

    5. SMOM is not part of “the overall superstructure of Freemasonry”. Catholics cannot be Masons. There is a basic misunderstanding here as the spurious title ‘Knight of Malta’ features as one of the grades of masonry in several masonic organisations. Also there are numerous non-Catholic ‘false’ orders of Malta or of St John (particularly in the US) which purport to orgininate from SMOM and some of which engage in masonic activities. Unlike Masons, we are not permitted to give preference to our ‘confreres’, or fellow members, but only strive to serve the Sick and the Poor.

    6. “All the royals and many Heads of State are members of the cult”. SMOM is not a cult but a sovereign entity under international law with Permanent Observer status at the UN. Some Heads of State have been invested with the Collar of the Order as a mark of repect from one sovereign (in our case the Prince and Grand Master) to another. No member of the British Royal Family are members of SMOM as they are not Catholics. There is confusion here with The Venerable Order of St John in the United Kingdom, which is a non-denominational order created by Queen Victoria and with which SMOM cooperates on humanitarian matters.

    6. “All the top Nazis” were not members of SMOM. This is a disgraceful allegation without any basis in fact. Names and evidence please!

    7. I have no knowledge of the “heads of the CIA and top US generals” being members of SMOM. Again, names and evidence would be helpful before such suggestions are offered as fact. Here, too, there may well be confusion with the ‘other’ so-called Orders of Malta, although there is no reason why public servants should not be members of SMOM if they conduct their lives in accordance with Christian principles. Failure to do so would lead to immediate explusion from the Order.

    Of course ‘conspiracy theories’ are great fun and indeed there are certainly dark forces at work in our sorry world. Undoubtedly SMOM needs to do more to explain its mission and to become more transparent, but to suggest that one of the international organisations that is devoted to improving the lives of those less fortunate than ourselves is somehow part of some great papist plot against freedom and democracy is to do great harm to those very people we seek to serve.

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  43. Hey Roderic.

    Bullshit. All bullshit. Everything you say is a lie, excepting the fact that you kiss the Queen’s arse. At the top, SMOM is a bunch of wealthy elitist aristocratic manipulators hiding behind a front of charity and “poverty”. Hahahahahaha! Very funny! Yeah that’s a good one. Tell us more.

    You are the ones endangering people’s lives as you have done from the beginning. I just point out the facts and SMOM members hate the truth more than anything because it is blowing their cover. Oh, who dares to criticize a charity? I do when it’s top people are involved in international intrigues and this plan for a New World Order.

    Face it, all you can do is deny, deny, deny. It doesn’t cut it with me or anyone else with a brain.

    Try again, it amuses me.

  44. When the truth doesn’t fit your theories, resort to abuse!

  45. I abuse anyone who supports feudalism. Got that part right.

    Feudalism was always the problem, the real threat against humanity and freedom. And today, neo-feudalism remains the real threat, the real problem.

    You support feudalism and the New World Order system which is run by the elite aristocratic secret societies including Skull and Bones, Freemasonry, Bilderberg and SMOM and the other chivalric orders. I don’t support any of it. You love the neofeudal Orwellian New World Order and I hate it. That’s the difference between you and me.

  46. For those interested in understanding the true nature of the SMOM and its activities, I recommend the website of the British Association: http://www.orderofmalta.org.uk. This sets out very clearly the charitable role of the Order and places it in its historical context. The ‘Frequently Asked Questions’ section is particularly helpful to those unfamiliar with the subject.

  47. I am sorry but this is a load of lies and misunderstandings.

    Hi

    The American eagle turns its head as it likes – if I am not mistaken one of the American presidents had rotated the eagle to face the other way towards the olive brunch rather than the arrows – but it was turned once again to point towards the arrows or towards war.

    The double headed eagle in antiquity signified the Holy Roman Empire – East and West having dominion over the spiritual and material existance of man – now these were both our ancestors. However the masonic eagle also represents the dominion of the east and west of politics and man’s souls – but a dominion which opposes the original Holy Roman Empire – ie God vs Lucifer. The masonic double headed represents trans-gender and signifies the star of David – as above as below – chaos above chaos below – chaos of the demons and powers and principalities which rule the air as chaos below the dominion of Judeo-Masonry on Earth!!

    The Judeo-Masonic Kabal reigns supreme today – no other force as yet can challenge it – apart from the eagle I serve – which I do not think you believe in – as you have well stated “I sense a wide gap in our intellectual orientations” Hitler had tried to clense the world of Judeo-Masonry but apparently was fooled by them as he purged Europe of the Jews the Illuminati (who say are Jews but adore Lucifer) dealt with Hitler and used his purges to force the Jews to create their Nation Israel. In fact Hitler’s own grand-dad was one of the chief Illuminists (Judeo-Illuminist) and these same Illuminists created Communism in Russia.

    I believe in purity of heart and not purity of race!!!

    “Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman, adorned with the sun, standing on the moon, and with twelve stars on her head for a crown. She was pregnant, and in labor, crying aloud in the pangs of childbirth. Then a second sign appeared in the sky, a huge red dragon that had seven heads and ten horns, and each of the seven heads crowned with a coronet. Its tail dragged a third of the stars from the sky…. The woman brought a male child into the world, the son who was to rule all the nations with an iron scepter… And now war broke out in heaven, when Michael with his angels attacked the dragon. The dragon fought back with his angels, but they were defeated and driven out of heaven. The great dragon, the primeval serpent, known as the devil or Satan, who had deceived the entire world, was hurled down to the earth and his angels were hurled down with him…. As soon as the devil found himself thrown down to the earth, he sprang in pursuit of the woman, the mother of the male child, but she was given a huge pair of eagle’s wings to fly away from the serpent into the desert, to the place where she was to be looked after for a year and twice a year and half a year… Then the dragon was enraged with the woman and went away to make war on the rest of her children, that is, all who obey God’s commandments and bear witness for Jesus.”

    Rev

  48. Dear Pamela

    today I happened to read your article on the MaltaToday newspaper and was amazed!

    Are you sure of what you write ?

    Firstly, there are more than 10 American societies which claim to be the Order of St John in the USA and each has absolutely no ties to the ancient Order of Malta headed by Fra Andrew Bertie. So did the Russian Czar once claim to be the Order’s Grandmaster, a position which was not granted by the Roman Pontiff.

    Therefore, dear Mrs researcher are you sure that General Joseph Edward Schmitz is a member of the Roman Order of St John or maybe he is a member of an American Society or a British headed by the Queen ?

    Rather than having connections with fundamentalist Catholic groups he has connections with far-right evangelical groups American groups who have American interests of oil and other in the Middel East – so in this point you are wrong a second time.

    Attacking the Pope, the Church in other words the Bride of Christ you are not convincing many, the Pope has no interest in such Blackwater activities. He has time and again publically condemned the agressive stance of America in the Middle East.

    On another point you seem to mix up the activities and the ideals of four organisations into one basket ie Opus Dei, the Order of St John headed by Fra Andrew Bertie, Freemasonry and Blackwater.

    Now, while an Evangelical can be a Freemason a Catholic cannot and this was condemened by the Roman Pontiffs in their Bulls and Encyclicals, a Catholic cannot receive the Holy Eucharist if he becomes a Freemason. Freemasons blaspheme the Eucharist in their 18 (and 30th) degree initiation while the Order and Opus Dei do not.

    What I am trying to say here is that your article is one big mess!!

    If you want to study a current conspiracy which is being adhered to check out the Masonic plan to extend and enlarge the war between Christians and Muslims so as to exterminate both.

    Check out Albert Pike (Grand Pontiff of Freemasonry of the nineteenth century in his letter to Mazzini)

    Yes indeed, now consider this :- we are Maltese smack in the middle between Southern Islam and Christian North (now we both know that they are atheist but anyhow) do you believe that we will not suffer if Blackwater’s masons and others succeed in their plan to enlarge the war ??

    So long for you obstinate and obdurate ways to condemn the Bride of Christ we shall see who will be condemned at the end.

    Best Regards

    PS – May Fra Andrew Bertie rest in peace and may God forgive the ones who lied about him – which might have triggered his death.

  49. Hello is anyone home ? it is disgusting that some people (no names out of respect) have no lives they live as slaves to mental disorders . please try to fight off your disorder for a minute to regain some common sense ! why do you denounce good deeds? and slander those who perform such duties ?or slander those who choose to defend life ? will i be a bad and evil person if i earn a generous salary which i support my family and give what i choose to charity (not forced) like liberal big goverment wealth redistrubution ?

  50. You’re disgusting Ryan. Elite fascist loving scum. I never denouce good deeds. Only evil deeds. The Knights of Malta ARE the real Illuminati, the real elite criminal cabal that controls intelligence agencies, banking, funds wars and is pushing us all into their New World order system. All members of the aristocracy are SMOM or some related order. Anyone who knows anything about the real international intelligence establishment knows that SMOM is at the heart of the business which is why all CIA directors are SMOM. It is but one of many occultic groupings that the elite belong to. Most of them are also top freemasons, members of the mystery school religion. They were directly involved in freeing the Nazis through the Ratlines. They are running Blackwater’s criminal operations in criminal wars. Anything that is bad in this world, they are involved in it. Directly. The charity stuff is just a cover, without which they would have no excuse for existing.

    Your comments are those of a half-witted moron.

  51. Roderic. Catholics CAN be masons. Many are. It is a myth that Catholics are excluded from the Freemasons. Incidentally, so can Jews and Muslims. All that is required is belief in a supreme being or creator, hence the “G” used in much of their symbology. Rather a lot of Sikhs are also Freemasons.

    I should note that I agree with everything else you said.

    I am sick of these crazy conspiracy theories, such as those found in the Hamas charter relating to Jews, Rotarians, Lions and Freemasons all being in some kind of elaborate plot of world domination.

  52. RODERIC, you are embarrassed about the corruption of your order. It is understandable.

    But it is NOT so simple.
    “The members of these Lodges were high level Vatican clergy , high level Mafiosi from all the main Sicilian Mafia Families and many politicians. Mafia and Freemasonry in Trapani and Palermo have ruled the scene for a long time thanks to people like Giuseppe Mandalari the accountant of Cosa Nostra Boss Toto Rina a High Level Freemason of the CAMEA ! Mandalari, “Gran maestro dell’Ordine e Gran sovrano del rito scozzese antico e accettato” basicly Grand Master of the powerfull CAMEA Grand Lodge recognized the very irregular but powerfull Masonic Lodges of Grimaudo in Trapani forming a masonic alliance with him under the P2 illuminati control of Giunchiglia and Gelli. Powerfull mafiosi Natale L’Ala was in Iside 2 (Isis 2) and politician Canino member of the Scontrino circle openly admited that their Lodges were full of Catholic Bishops and Government Ministers. But it was Mafia Boss Stefano Bontate a creation of the Jesuits”

    http://www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend.it/

    You know it RODERIC, it is NOT so simple!!!

    There is a top layer and you are already aware of it, intermixed and interwoven with the Vatican’s aristocrats. The corrupt Knights of Malta you know are not just a mistake.

    They are an epidemic. They are a SOCIETY OF EVIL PEOPLE, running the Vatican, known as the Ashkenazi Aristocrats.

    You know this is the truth, RODERIK. Or else you would not be here to save their face. RODERIK cast down this evil senseless lie for once in your life, DISOBEY the orders of the corrupt leaders in the Sovereign Order!!!!!!!!!!!

    You know these VILE people are there in the top of the VATICAN, join with everyone else to get rid of these horrible people!!!!!!!!!

    Look at the atrocities the upper JESUITS are responsible for, they are behind all this cult bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Don’t stand for this shame, JOIN THE GOOD SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS STILL TIME!!!!!

    All evil in this world of the VATICAN will and is going to be judged harshly soon.

  53. what"good"side???

    So what if they are a cult and evil empire. What else is new??? What is your solution to the problem? Would you prefer to live in the Mid-East or some 3rd world country where hostility flourishes in every aspect of life? The things people do in the name of God or Allah, or whatever belief system that condones death to its enemy is beyond grotesque. SO WHAT. I am grateful for the few freedoms I do have. Be grateful that you can even whine away about this crap on the internet. This is nothing new. Consider yourself privledged. You sound so entitled, the way every man that is not born with a better playing hand does. What exactly are you entitled too? What is your master plan that will save every person from themselves? Will you designate yourself judge, jury, and executioner?
    I dont mean to attack your egos, but I am so sick of reading these whiney threads. Ask yourself what do you do to help others selflessly? Keyword-SELFLESS. Your all driven by your egos to fight what ever system controls you. You are a typical political animal, and you would probably do the same as these men, if you were afforded the same opportunities as these men. Their are rare few whom break this mold. ALL of you are motivated by your egos.
    Let it go. Use what freedom you do have to help instead of complain. You cant control the circumstances, just your reaction to it. That is all you have control of. Control is an illusion. The more you believe you are entitled to it, the less you have of it.

  54. what"good"side???

    P.S. Frank said it right.

  55. How about throw these corrupt fools in jail for one thing by taking them to the Grand Jury and further so this nonsense stops going in circles?

    I’m doing my part, the question is are you?

    http://www.arcticbeacon.com http://www.worldreports.org

  56. RE: what”good”side???

    Another disgusting spineless government-worshipping arse-licker comes this way to spew his psycho-bullshit, protesting the protesters.

    Yeah, yeah, just get used to the elite aristocracy running and ruining the planet. Don’t complain about the New World Order. Don’t complain about losing our rights and sovereignty. Don’t complain about the massive fraud and corruption in government. Don’t complain about the lies of 9/11 and perpetual pre-emptive war. Get used to the Orwellian surveillance society. Don’t fight it. Learn to love Big Brother. Get rid of your ego, blah, blah, blah….Be grateful for what freedoms that they have so graciously bestowed upon us. Learn to love your servitude as Aldous Huxley encouraged us to freely enter the “concentration camp of the mind”. Allow the elites to become so much farther ahead of the common person that they begin to appear as a different species as elite social engineer Lord Bertrand Russell put it. By the way these elite social engineers and armies of others like them have always worked directly for the scum that wear that Maltese cross and other medallions of the so-called “Noble Orders” of high Rosicrucian Freemasonry.

    Russell also said that the elite would scientifically engineer human society to the point that protest by the people would be as unthinkable as sheep protesting the practice of eating mutton and of course you are a perfect example of that type of mental and moral vacuity.

    “Gradually, by selective breeding the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organised insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton.”

    That being the actual quote that can only come from a deranged elitist mind filled with delusions of grandeur and pumped up by a gigantic ego.

    And you talk so much about ego, as if you don’t have one. Don’t kid yourself because you don’t fool me.

    What you do lack is a brain.

    Grow one.

    The way you do that is by thinking.

    Try it sometime.

  57. Henry Kissinger was also knight of malta. Before 9-11 there was a demand tat he pay for war crimes from his involvemnt in Cambodian genocide. Doesnt sound very charitable to me. He also was tapped to lead the 9-11 invstigation but declined for some reaon. Interesting choice. There was nothin holy abou the holy roman empire. They murdered in the nameof ‘Jesus’. Stole and conqered and brutalized. May we all wake up together and hooe a different path for humanity beforethese con menlike Erik Prince destroy it for us. He is a new age Hessian mercenary and his company is filled with murderers. Dont confuse these people with christinity or values. They are vampires that live off the blood and misery of others. I like you peoplehre for bravely exposing these undead. They hate exposure like a vampire does light.

  58. Jouneyman, thank you!

    FINALLY, somebody gets it.

    And the only reason you get it is because you have clear thinking, an informed intellect, and a brave and good heart. Most of the others posting comments here are too corrupt, too compromised, too psychopathic, too ignorant or too cowardly to accept the truth and deal with it.

    Kissinger is also a P-2 member, deeply connected to the Illuminati underworld. These are cold-blooded psychopathic killers having the time of their lives, and they run the governments of the world.

  59. Joseph Olivarez

    When I was viewing the video of the Order of the Knights of Malta I was hoping you could tell me where and what is that stutue of an animal on a piller near the port of Valletta in Malta. This was towards the end of yhe video around 51 minutes. The reason I ask is that I have seen that animal in the deserts of Sonora Mexico. It was rather large around 12′-15′ tall.

  60. They are the JESUIT ORDER at the top….
    High Freemasons
    High illuminati….
    regarding catholics not being Masons?? Really??? documentation here says otherwise….

    http://www.Xanga.com/avenueoflight

  61. I think everyone has it wrong. The Rothschild banking family and its lieutenant families control the Vatican. The Vatican and the Jesuits are tools being used for hegemony throughout the entire world. The Rothschilds are the Medici equivalent today.
    If you use a little logic and common sense you’ll see where I’m going with this argument.
    The Pope, the Bishops, the Cardinals, the Black Pope, and all of these Knights of Malta characters are all appointed to positions of power. And if you are appointed to a position of power then you are not truly in power, and it is quite elementary that the Pope and the Black Pope were appointed to their positions.

    Moreover, before Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands died, he had vote power over the Pope. Furthermore, Prince Bernhard was one of the founders of the Bilderberg group.

    Common sense demonstrates that someone who is truly in power isn’t appointed to that position, they take it, and the Rothschilds along with the European Nobility took/stole power for themselves. The Pope and his Vatican entourage were appointed; therefore they are pawns/knights for the Kings of the world. That’s why they are called the Knights of Malta, The Knights of Rhoads and so on. It’s just that simple.

    The bottom line is true power is taken not given.

  62. BoBo I agree with you basically. I just don’t see it as the Rothschilds alone running the world. It is all of them together. No one has ever proven that one single family is running everything unless you look at the royal families together as one big intermarried family (into which the Rothchilds are intermarried). Then you are getting somewhere.

  63. pjwalker911:
    Of course it isn’t the Rothschilds alone, but again use a little logic. Do you remember the TV show the Highlander? And do you remember the old Adage that was said?

    “THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!”
    And that my friend is the point.

    If you really want to find out whose ruling the world then start reading about the banking elite. The Warburgs, the Shiffs, the Aldrichs, and the Rockefellers. These families (and many others) are the lieutenants of the Rothschilds. These people own the Federal Reserve Bank and they own the printing presses that print our currency. They control our economy/Wall Street.
    The truth is all this Freemasonry, Knights of Malta stuff is really irrelevant in the whole scheme of things. As Noam Chomsky said, “It’s the Corporations,” and it’s these very people that own the corporations. Everything else is a distraction.
    In the end who cares if Henry Kissinger is a Knight of Malta or a Zionist…it doesn’t matter! All that really matters is who are these people (such as Kissinger) working for, and how do we create some leverage so they have to negotiate with us on our terms.

    All of these masonic symbols, signs and colors are nothing more than gang insignias. Plus the elites use religion to control the masses. It isn’t religion using the elites to control us, that doesn’t make any sense.

    Furthermore, the corporate elites are a criminal network with wierd ideas on how to shape the world we live in, and they’re nothing more than that. Unfortunately for us they’re iniquitous individuals.

    And you’re right they do intermarry and that’s why they’ve been able to keep the worlds wealth within the family arena. Check out the currency of Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. All their money has Queen Elizabeth II face printed on it. Now, ask yourself why that is so? Is it because the Pope controls these countries?
    I think not! Like I said before the Pope was appointed to his position so therefore he is a puppet.
    Besides, if you look at the history of the Catholic Church you will see that they took at loans with banks to fund their crusades. The Church was indebt, that’s one of the reasons why they conned honest God fearing people into buying Indulgencies.

    I don’t know if you read Eric Jon Phelps “Vatican Assassins” but if you have, Phelps is full of it and unreliable.
    You should check out Bill Stills “The Money Masters” documentary. That film will clearly show you whose orchestrating the “New World Order.”

  64. BoBo, the more you say, the more I disagree with you. Chomsky is an establishment disinfo whore, nothing more.

    The occult aspect is at the heart of the NWO. That is how they keep their ranks together through initiation, blood oaths, ritual etc. Without this occult secrecy and occult discipline (and they are highly disciplined) which runs both the mystery religions (Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism etc), there would be no high level conspiracy to control the world because they couldn’t maintain the level of secrecy needed to pull it off. Nor would they have the organizing principles: The Great Work, New World Order etc to maintain their long-term agenda.

    The Vatican is merely an administrative institution like the UN. It is used for control, but I agree that its leaders are appointed and approved by the elites in general. The Black Pope is a powerful position, but I would put in the realm of chief intelligence officer, who always answers to higher powers.

    Bill Stills is another Vatican stooge. Yeah I saw his doc and was unimpressed in the end.

    Phelps is pretty much unreliable (sometimes outright loony), yet makes numerous excellent points. You have to sift the wheat from the chaff with him.

    You see, I’m not merely talking off the work of others and I am nobody’s follower. I follow my own nose to the truth and it is so far working out fine, thank you.

  65. A good anology for the Illuminati’s method is the Spider’s Web, where most of humanity today is entangled in it. Helpless, powerless, divided, miserable, and confused. His main tool of control and chaos is the diverse underworld cults and orders mentioned above (controlling most of nation states today and the world political scene and using multiple intelligence services). pjwalker has provided us with good insight on those Elite Orders and their connection to the Vatican. Thanks PJ. They appear to me as the closest Link to the Illuminati. In addition to the Orders are the masters of the financial / monetary world / Media. (entrusted to the Zionists). Ofcourse they are all interlinked and overlaping. I’m also convinced that their Pledges are ritual like and ‘sacred’ in nature. Dicipline is Mandatory and retribution against treason is always applied. I think the main purpose is the destruction and taming of the human spirit and the goodness it carries within it. Although the motivation for Power and Wealth seem to appear as the main purpose of his work, the complexity and the atrocities commited, along with the major efforts of promoting ‘individuality’ (in its negative sense) lead to a higher objective above Global Wealth and Dominance. I think that the free thinkers should consider this objective of the Illuminati regardless if it has a religious (Satanic or work of Satan) flavor to it or not. The new world order is a nightmarish terrifying conclusion. Its depth of darkness is similar to the ones depicted in Orwell’s ’1984′ (good reference pjwalker) or even as sinister as the Dark lord in the ‘Lord of the Rings’ fiction novel. Wars, crimes, politics, brutal economics, monopoly trade, catastrophic social welfare and educational systems, poverty and famine, and chaotic depletion of the earth resources and poisining its environment are just one side of the coin, just one element of building of the Web. Many (izims) of the 19th & 20th century, the likes of freud, darwin, communisim, capitilizim have also a major contribution of creating the maze or labyrinth for the human mind to get stuck in it in the name of science or intellect or ‘common wealth’! We have also seen a relentless and horrific attack on ‘primitive’ tribal communities that were self sufficient … most of which have lost their identity and their survivors are already in the Web. The American indians are just one example of many. The continuos ordeal of the resisting monks in Tibet is another.
    Another unnoticed tragedy is the quickly fading mystical or esoteric teachings of the world’s major religions such as Judasim or christianity or Islam that are now replaced with and confined to superficial interpretations and practices. And where the clergy of each are the major offenders to the depth of their human or spiritual message. All this is not random occurance. A strong indication is the Elite’s thinkers generous gift and prophecy to humanity about the War of cultures and civilisations they announced in the 90′s right after the downful of the Soviet empire. Now this is in full motion thanks to 9/11. Tolerance is replaced by hatered and fear. a major disaster is brewing.
    I know i’m not adding anything new here, I’m just saying that we should all realize that there will be no favors awarded to any sheep, even if it claps and sings to the tune of the elite, like Mr. what good side suggested above.

    We should study the Web carefully, and discover its weakest links and points. It’s not impossible for the spider to get entangled in his own web. I suspect that the Spider and his First line group of elites are getting confident enough to unveil their underworld secretive cover and rule directly. They think that the aftermath of the disaster they’re cooking now will enable them to do so. However I still think that the human spirit will resist and eventually balance them out. How big of a cost that remains to be seen.

  66. pjwalker911
    I don’t agree with everything Chomsky has to say, but I do feel what he has to say is vital to the overall argument. It’s Chomsky’s facts that I regard as useful not his opinions based on those facts.

    Like you said you have to sift through all of the evidence and that’s what I do. I examine the far-left, the far-right, the center and every conspiracy theory you can imagine… except the space alien nonsense and David Icke’s reptilian agenda.
    “I’m not into sci-fi.”

    And of course, the elites uses secret societies to control the masses. That’s the way it has always been done for centuries. It’s what’s called religious propaganda. It’s easy to control the sheeple that way.
    They also play the left-right paradigm game controlling both sides of every issue.

    The overall point I was trying to make is that we spend way too much time on this secret society mystery school stuff and we lose focus on the elite despots who control them and what their hegemonic plans for us are.

    One of the best ways of dealing with these secret societies and think tanks is to first expose how they are usurping out constitutional rights and how they are inacting hegemony over the entire world. We need to identify individuals and charge them with crimes against humanity.

    It seems to me that to often this is left out of the discourse, and if we don’t engage the argument from that perspective we’re going to lose. Now, don’t get me wrong the mystery-school stuff is a vital issue, but let’s face it when you engage people with that stuff it goes over their heads. They just don’t get it, and I know you fathom what I mean from past experiences with sheeple.

    Moreover, I envisage that the Freemasonry shills are nothing more than a recruiting outfit for the NWO. Sure, high ranking masons are placed in positions of power, but are they the real power?
    “Of Course Not.”
    Which I’ll reiterate your earlier point to include the Vatican, the Jesuits, and all of the rest of the mystery-schools in my statement.

    Insofar as dealing with individuals what we first have to do when engaging them is spark a revelation about the central banking system and who controls it. If we don’t deal in individual people, perpetrators/conspirators instead of generalities then how are we going to help people to ascertain what’s really transpiring.
    Most people are still hypnotized by the NWO, and they aren’t analytical like we are, they get their news from CNN, FOX, and ABC and just except as truth.

    A case in point: I remember one time when I told this dude about the Bohemian Grove, and he looked at me like I was totally insane. He never spoke to me again.
    The bottom line is… very few open minded individuals will listen to us about the occult aspect of the NWO, and that’s not enough, which completely sucks, but that’s the way it is. It’s a subject that has to be encroached upon gradually after the basic facts are laid out for them to digest, otherwise we end up turning them off, and accomplish nothing.

    Truthfully, I think we agree on most of the issues at hand. Also, I do agree that Bill Stills let’s his Catholic beliefs over power/skew his message, but he still lays down facts that are useful. And I’ll reiterate I like to sift through all the evidence.

    As for Phelps I think he (like Stills) is blinded by his Protestant religion.

    P.S.
    Yes, the occult aspect is at the heart of the NWO it’s just unfortunate that most people are myopic sheeple who will not listen or believe that side of the story.

  67. Wolf, you will be a Lone Wolf, if you keep talking like that. Like me. ;-)

    I believe that the elite (aristocracy, Illuminati etc) invented the Exoteric religions to hide their Esoteric religions from which they control the masses since ancient times. Therefore, I don’t follow any religion myself, yet stand alone in my own spirituality as I belive we all should do. If we are free-thinking individuals, the NWO cannot touch us at any level. They might be able to kill the body, but that is about it. But we should not dwell on what they may or may not do to us. It is better to live life as though they don’t exist or more specifically, to work to achieve your dreams unfettered and with optimism, undaunted, even as you do what you can to help awaken the rest of the world and expose the Illuminati’s game. That is my basic philosophy.

  68. BoBo, now you are making sense to me.

    I certainly don’t focus exclusively or lopsidedly on the occult aspect. I look at the NWO holistically from all sides though I might be lacking in some areas. I am not perfect and there is still so much to learn and believe me, I am learning more each and every day and won’t quit until the end. And we do learn from reading or listening to those with whom we disagree or who support the NWO such as Carroll Quigley, the Huxleys, Bertrand Russell etc. Alan Watt on Cutting Through the Matrix is someone I recommend as a resource in that area.

    You are probably right then that we agree mostly. Your comments are welcome, though I welcome everybody including those who disagree or hate what I am doing. Everything contributes to our knowledge eventually.

  69. truthseeker247

    What an interesting thread!

    First, let me just say to…

    what”good”side

    ARE YOU KIDDING????? Be thankful for the freedoms you have and quit whining???? How can you call someone “entitled” for defending their HUMAN rights? In fact, your whole dissertation just supports what us “whiners” are saying has validity to it. The fact that your brain exercised the thought process of being grateful for what freedoms you have says a lot. Besides, if your so sick of all the whining in these threads, then why do you keep looking at them? Go to Starbucks, eat McDonalds, watch FOX news and go live happily ever after or are you in on it???

    Secondly,

    pjwalker….

    Bravo!! I totally agree with you! There is SO MUCH information out there and we never stop learning when we open our minds which includes studying the claims and views of all the angles and deciding for ourselves what we believe to be true. And while we may not always agree on where pieces of the puzzle go and what pieces even belong to the puzzle, one thing is for sure……there’s a “them” and there’s an “us” and the only way to gain strength is to share information and communicate with each other.

    Personally, I am amazed that people find all this so hard to believe. When I look at pictures of the countless people that are somehow worked into the grid, I can see the pure evil in their eyes.

    It’s nice to know that there are still some people who get it out there!

  70. truthseeker247, right on, right on bro.

    There are some who seem to think that our rights are granted to us by the elites, which implies that we are living under a priveledge system. That is utter non-sense of course since our rights are innate to the human condition. Each and every individual has an equal right to exist on this planet, seek out his fortune, protect himself if need be, believe whatever the heck he wants to believe, think freely, speak freely and to maintain his own privacy reguarding his personal effects. That is true regardless of what system he lives under, but of course, we are living under the New World Order system so our rights are being challenged by the elite. And the only way to keep those rights is to fight against the elite, in other words, to defend our right to exist as free and sovereign men and women.

    The real Enemy then is the Elite, the Illuminati aristocracy who are attempting to encircle and enslave us in a web of high-tech tyranny never before seen on this planet. That is what is at issue here. Freedom still exists to a degree, yet it is under a severe threat. And much of the freedom we experience is not freedom at all, but mind-control and manipulation. Goethe once said that no one is more enslaved than he who is enslaved, yet believes he is free. I paraphrase, but that is the whole point to this entire post. I certainly hope readers will get it. The point, that is.

  71. truthseeker247
    Wolf
    pjwalker911

    I don’t want to elaborate too much on the subject matter I’m about to digress upon, but I think/know that the Illuminati intelligence agencies hijacked the 9/11 truth movement by speading disinfo. I feel that so-called experts such as Jim Fetzer are NWO agents who infiltrated the movement to discredit it. I’ve felt like this for quite sometime and I was wondering if anyone else has come to the same conclusion.
    Any thoughts on that issue?

  72. Is he an agent or just delusional? It is so hard to tell about anyone. Some people are just hellbent on their opinions about things. For me, the litmus test involves actual connections to the globalist think tanks like CFR, connections to masonry, the Vatican etc. Then, when you find such connections you can be pretty sure they are agents. For example Griffin has connections to the CFR, he preaches world government and a one-world religion. What other conclusion can one draw than that he is a controlled opposition agent of some kind? Or at least that he is being used that way. Certain positions that presenters have, such as with Ruppert and his Peak Oil scam, are very suspicious, but I have not seen anything so far that directly connects him to anything other than his own opinons. Same with this new guy and the Shell Game. He is just reiterating the Neo-con War for Oil scenario of Ruppert that only tells one small part of the story. Agents? Could be, but even without proof, you simply should not put your faith in these yahoos.

  73. By the way,

    BoBo09, truthseeker247, Wolf and Avenueoflight please stay in touch.Your comments are appreciated.

  74. Why am i disgusting ? cause i disagree with your outragous lies and theroies ?I’m a proud 1st degree knight of columbus we are a faternal organization for charity and supporting catholic community and families in need . I’m also a proud conservative for only liberalism wants to destroy life not preserve it look to all liberal ideas complete failures and scams all one needs to do is study truth to find the answers yours are baised misinformed obsessed theorys the vatican helped thousands of jews escape the nazis camps I think your world view is oppisite of mines i except that but you are unable to really debate cause your convinced through your own personal agenda which is blocking any room for truth to plant seeds i think other famous tyrants in history have similiar thought patterns ie hittler stalan castro bin laden and rev wright ect.

  75. the church also teaches forgiveness thats why repenting nazis were forgiving there sins even a muslim extremist who tried to assanate the pope was forgiving by the pope

  76. Ryan:
    Come on you actually have the audacity to include Rev Wright in the Hitler, Stalin camp. That’s just silly.

    Furthermore, if you need someone; let’s say for the sake of the argument,the church to teach you forgiveness, love, honesty, and respect for others then you have a problem because all of these things should already be within you.

    And besides the Knights of Columbus are nothing more than local chapters of the Illuminati. Your fraternity is used to control local governments, and you can’t deign that the Knights of Columbus have a strong influence in town government.

    The point is you’re probably a porch Knight who really doesn’t ascertain what’s going on, if you did you wouldn’t be on this thread arguing with us. You’d be keeping things hush-hush like so many others involved in the NWO.

    I have a litmus test for you. Why don’t you ask your leaders in your lodge the many questions that were raised on this thread just to see what answers you might receive? And then Throughly research our point of view just to see if any of it makes sense. You may be suprised.

    The Vatican has always been an iniquitous institution since its inception around 324 AD.
    You need to do your home work. There are myriads of history books in local libraries or Barnes n Nobel bookstores.

    Heres a few books that will get you started:

    Edmond Paris “A Secret History of the Jesuits”

    E.R. Chamberlin “The Bad Popes”

    H.F.M. Prescott “Mary Tudor”

    Christopher Hibbert “The House of Medici its Rise and Fall”

    Jean-Yves Le loup “The Gospel of Mary Magdalene”

    Michael Grant “the Roman Emperors”

    David Starky “Elizabeth The Struggle for the Throne”

    There’s plenty more, but start with these.

  77. “hittler [learn to spell] stalan [learn to spell] castro bin laden and rev wright ect”…..we could go right on down the list through all major dictators and elite psychopaths through most of history and it never ends….

    all aided and abetted by members of the Illuminati secret societies: ie, Skull and Bones, Boule, Round Table, Masons, Rosicrucians, Templars, Jesuits, Knights of Malta and of course Knights of Columbus, for a purpose. and for a multitude of agendas which these pychopaths have all helped to fullfil.

    By the way, I am willing to believe that Wright is either a Prince Hall or a Boule member. Worth looking into.

  78. Oh, I forgot to mention, Anthony J Hilder has a new documentary called “SKULL & BONES: The Catholic Connection.”

  79. About time. This needs a lot more exposure.

    Esoterism controls exoterism. All of it needs to come out: Zionist Judaic-Cabalist, Catholic-Jeusit, Protestant-Rosicrucian-Masonic, Islamic-Sufic and let’s add Hindu-Tantric and others as well. The mind control behind religion absolutely must be exposed. Since the beginning, it has always been the esoteric wolves herding the exoteric sheep and it is time people woke up to it.

  80. I’m sure you’re right about Wright, we’ll have to keep our eyes peeled, but we definitely know Obama is a NWO/CFR shill, and is working directly for the Trilateralist team.
    By the way I just purchased a book about the black elites/Boulé called “Our Kind of People” by Lawrence Otis Graham. He claims to have been an insider. I’m hoping this book will answer some questions I have, and make connections.
    John D. and Nelson Rockefeller, plus James Forbes seem to be connected to these people, especially since David Rockefeller is a staunch contributor to the NAACP, which is a Boulé and CIA asset.

    Let’s keep waking people up.

  81. i feel very sorry for your misunderstandings you are just grabbing strings out of thin air the reason i even found this sight is because i wanted to see a doucumentry on the order but found this site with very in depth creative style theory which is really a anti catholic anti god anti religion anti military anti semite i think you are the illuminat wanting to stir disbelief in society to cause chaos so you and your fellow “free thinking “elitist may create this utopia of control over the people disroying free will and the faith of life after death and the rewards of living a good life with good dees

  82. by causing fear and disbelief ! you know your lieing both of you do you not have any honor? oh yea i forgot your ideals dont include morals for the church teaches them and also the church was founded by Christ not in 300ad more clues to your lies i love to debate and yes we are involved in politics like all other citzens of my country we particapate in our goverment we premote a pro life stance

  83. let me ask you this
    1. what is your agenda behind this theory ?
    2. who do you work for?
    3. who funds your work?
    4.where are you from?
    5.what is your point?
    6. where did you learn or create these ideas?
    7.why are you unable to debate facts?
    8.why do you point to authors with baised world view?and t.v for facts?
    9. why do you only make accusations?
    10.why are you not fair and balanced?
    11.are you baised?
    12.do you hate or feel sorry for your life?
    13.did you have a rough childhood?

  84. my organization is not secret so you may look us up at http://www.kofc.org

  85. here is another site for information on apologetics http://www.saintjoe.com
    may god bless you with an open mind

  86. Jesus also warned the early church leaders announcing “as they hated me they will also hate you”

  87. More on the Boule’ which is the black “Skull and Bones”, designed to put Illuminati-approved blacks into positions of power and influence:

    Steve Cokely exposes the Boule Part 1

    Steve Cokely exposes the Boule Part 2

    Steve Cokely exposes the Boule Part 3

    The Boule’ is a black GREEK secret society based on another secret society founded at Yale University called Skull & Bones.
    http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/9516/boule.html

    THE BOULE: BLACK AMERICAN ELITE SECRET SOCIETY INFO-PACK
    http://troyspace.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/the-boule-black-american-elite-secret-society-info-pack/

  88. One look at the KOC logo should speak volumes. A Nazi Iron Cross surmounted with a fascist symbol used by Mussolini, the fasces.

    SEE:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces

    But that doesn’t trouble Ryan in the least. Just like his Freemason counterparts, he defends the cult to his grave and tries to deflect KOC’s ties to the Illuminati by pretending that I am working for the Illuminati which is pure bullshit coming from a desperate fanatic lunatic. If I was with the Illuminati, you would think that I would belong to one of their many orders and cults like the KOC, but I have not, do not and will never join and certainly will never be invited, which is fine by me.

    I am one of the few individuals left in America who can still think for himself. I am also one of the few exposing the real Illuminati whose roots go back to darkest antiquity and who maintain their control through all major institutions especially through religion, who are setting up a New World Order, which is a global government high-tech police state system with a one world army, a one world religion and a microchipped cyborg population greatly reduced through the use of eugenics bioweapons and other means.

    That is the reason I did this post, to warn people about who is really behind the scenes, pulling the strings, staging terror psyops, staging phony wars, taking our rights away and putting us into a New World Order straightjacket. The media, the government, “education” and religion are all controlled by the Illuminati who do everything in their power to brainwash the public and hide their secret agendas from them. All I am doing is exposing the truth in a direct way that frankly almost no one else is doing. And I take a lot of heat from it and fully expect that my life is in danger, particularly from religious fanatics, because of it.

    I am not saying that the Catholic Church is the sole power behind all of this, but it is one of the most important. The popes call for a New World Order, bless and UN flag and herd their sheep into the arms of the UN which is nothing but an administrative tool of the Illuminati. Rockefeller Skull and Bones set up the UN in New York. Skull and Bones funded Hitler. Skull and Bones are tied to SMOM. Bush Sr is both S&B and SMOM and was UN amabassador. Bush Sr gave a speech to the UN on Sept 11th, 1990 revealing to the world, a “New World Order” in which we shall “pledge our allegiance to the United Nations”. Bush Jr has nothing but praise for KOC and Freemasons, yet keeps his mouth shut about the Skull and Bones. Bush Jr was received as royalty by the pope in the Vatican, and then gave the same royal treatment to the pope in Washington, during which time Bush Jr was praised as being the “first Catholic president”. KOC are nothing more than the pope’s troops (and thus Bush Illuminati troops) and vow to serve and protect the pope to the death. They are fanatics not much different than Hitler’s SS and they serve the Illuminati New World Order.

    So Ryan, quit playing games with words. Admit what you are and leave it at that.

  89. wow that is a lot to take in at once lol you are really trying to cause chaos I will send you a initiation form you are now invited i invite you to all functions if you are catholic you are free to join i will even give you a council # to contact you if you wish all i want to do is show you a different side something or someone has brainwashed you you have to look within yourself deep to find out what is really going on i want to be your friend i am not against you i too share your own creative imangination just we differ as do all humans please except my hand of friendship i think you have this thought of authority as bad ?did you have a troubled relationship with your father? you dont have to answer that due to nature of subject

  90. darwin is the master of eugenics planned parenthood is a front for eugenics hittler used eugenics darwin was anti catholic the cross is not german but germany used it for symbology and propaganda purposes if a rapist works for your company and wheres your shirt while doing the crime are you connected to that ? i think not !freemasons can become catholic but catholic may not be freemasons ! your arguement is more or less 1 +1=3 the church tries to open dialogue with everyone there even is a ecumenical branch dealing with atheis and satanist the church does not block anyone nor force anyone to join nor did jesus he only tried to reason with them faith is a gift why did you not address the questions 1 thru 13 in order? i’m willing address all of your doubts and concerns

  91. the illuiminati so called arguement is to awake peoples mind and eyes to their personal veiw against the church and all authority your counterpart himself states ” lets continue to wake people up “? hittler used pieces from here and there as he seen fit to create a mind set suited to his own agenda in the same way this page is created thats why i question and challenge you to release your true intentions!

  92. where is your puppet bobo ? or are you his or hers puppet?what is bo is a spy listen to what he says lets continue waking people up ? is that all seeing eye thing again causing chaos ?i can you be sure ? see how obserb that sounds ? lets debate like mature humans unless you dont believe in truth ?

  93. Ryan you are the one making up stories, stirring the pot, causing chaos, inventing conspiracies where there are none. All the conspiracies, the chaos creation and the New World Order system are on your side. I have nothing whatever to do with any of it. I am just trying to stop the madness that you support. I go to the root of it whereas most people are controlled by the elite following one dialectical fantasy or another like sheep to slaughter. My intention is to preserve life, truth, freedom and goodness. The Illuminati do the exact opposite while posing as “good Christians” etc. Wolves in sheep’s clothing they are and this is apparently what you are. You are just as bad as Lloyd Clinton, a Freemason occultist who tries to tell us that Lucifer is a good guy.

  94. pjwalker

    I already watched the Steve Cokely nonsense on youtube. I don’t think he has an ounce of credibilty. Most of his arugments are ripped out of Bill Cooper, David Icke, and Jordan Maxwell’s research. Plus he’s a racist and the NWO uses people like him to further propagate hate. I find him morally repugnate.
    Cokely doesn’t back any of his claims about the Boule with real facts, which makes him an absurd individual.

    As far as I’m concerned he’s doing the Illuminati a favor by furthering their divide and conquer stratagems. But thanks for the info and I let you know about any info I can dig up.

  95. Ryan

    It is obvious you don’t like to read otherwise you’d look into some of the books I suggested.
    It is you who are biased because if you weren’t, you’d read up on both sides of the argument.
    Look, dude, if the Inquisition doesn’t convince you of the Vatican’s iniquity then nothing will. For goodness sake it went on until 1825.
    During the time period of Torquemada and Francisco Pizarro, Pope Alexander VI had ordered the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Incas and stripped them of their wealth and resources.
    Torquemada executed hundreds of thousands of Jews in Spain with the Popes blessing and you call yourself a man of god by severing such an evil institution.

    As for your other questions:

    1: I’m just a guy typing on a thread

    2: I’m not biased, I’m skeptical and all I care about is the truth. Fair and balanced doesn’t equal truth, it’s just left/right paradigm nonsense to avoid facts, and the fact is the Vatican is responsible for billions of deaths throughout history and today.

    3: Personal questions about our lives are irrevelant in this debate.

    4: The facts are on this page and in the books I suggested. Why don’t you just do a little research to confirm it.

    And have fun at your next Illuminati gathering.

  96. i rest my case you are just anti catholic you dont care about facts the books are just books on more theories you point to a agenda driven theory as evidence! that is not truth sorry you dont know much about the inquisition either the catholic church handed over people under the inquisition to civil authorities which either convicted of civil crimes or released laws of countries are not laws of the church i’m on this tread i’ve studed all of your lies for that is what they are ! and you know that! that is what makes you either agenda driven or insane all you have to study is the author who write the books they announce that there books are theories not the truth all your doing is 1 + 1 = 7 your missing a numbers or your dilib.. excluding numbers which dont fit into your PERSONAL AGENDA DRIVEN THEORY you are the illuminati causing chaos and disbelief and discouraging those who might want to help make this world a better place for our kids and so forth thru good will and charity and from time to time to take arms in defending life human nature is flawed by design we learn we are not preprogramed blank slates as you think and you still wont answer the questions in order why is that ? are you scared to admit your lies ?since you get your facts from micheal moore and other leftist orgs who assume and piece together puzzles by cutting the peices into perfect squares here is a movie for you to watch Ben Steins EXPELLED:no intellagence allowed you need to stop contradicting yourselfs if you want this thread to sound somewhat believable!

  97. where are your records to prove the vatican ordered death ? will you please point to the cursades next so expose your agenda once again i must thank you for the opportunity and showing the readers of this thread the truth behind your agenda driven illusions
    unlike some we are doing our part and making the world a better place for us all unlike those who complain about everything and do nothing but cause trouble and chaos instead of bringing the world together as one and another reason why i’m here is to show that you guys only want it your way your own personal agenda you refuse to really search for truth please answer this question if you dare
    if someone murders another human being in your name does that make you guilty?

  98. all i hear from you two are narrow minded accusations and uncalled slanders against people who know that your theory is seriously flawed and lacking substance of truth or facts admit you hate mankind you hate the world you dispise all who are better off then you you hate your country you hate any buisness which incorparates you hate the open mindness you hate all laws you hate laws cause you cant dictate them you have no respect for life you hate any thought of neighbors getting together to create and build family frendly communities through there own local goverment cause guess what you cant dictate them you hate charity cause you cant control them face the facts you hate life
    i’m trying to reach out to you to inspire you to love life love our histories cause we can learn and build off mistakes of the past

  99. Ryan, Yikes! you are even creepier than I thought at first.

    Because I work for a living, I don’t have endless hours to counter all your delusional comments and invasive queries. But I will try. Stay tuned.

  100. Boboo9, those were just some prelim links on Boule I dug up FYI, not in any way was I endorsing the material as gospel.

    I am also not into left/right paradigm nonsense. Cokely and his interviewer there on KPFK I believe it was, seemed to be transmitting typical Marxist ideology which I am not into, but I will listen and try to sift the truth from just about anything.

  101. Pjwalker911

    I agree with you 100%. Cokely’s dribble just made me sick that’s all. There indeed may be some truth to what he says, but he’s still a hateful twit. I’ll keep you posted on anything I find.

  102. Ryan

    I didn’t have to answer all of your questions in order because I already answered them. You’re just talking in circles kid.
    And everything both PJwalk911 and I stated is 100% fact, and you know it. And there’s no need to argue any further unless you can back up your diatribe with facts, which you can’t because you have zero grounds to defend the Vatican’s crimes.
    So your case is not rested because you never made a case in the first place.

    And to answer one of your other inquiries; E.R. Chamberlin, H.F.M. Prescott, Christopher Hibbert ,Jean-Yves Le loup, Michael Grant, and David Starky are all highly reputable scholars.
    I’ll admit that Edmond Paris is more on the conspiratorial side, but his connectional theories speak volumes. And after doing further research on Paris’ writings I know for a fact his theories are sound.
    Another book you should look at is “God’s Soldiers A History of the Jesuits” by Jonathan Wright. But I know you’ll never do your own investigation because you condone the Vatican’s evil practices.

  103. its a shame you had to work on mother’s day a sunday i can only imangine what kind of career that is lol
    and your authors are as reputable as bill aires lol
    and you admit it your self CONNECTIONAL THEORIES!!!!!! it doesn’t take a freaking rocket scientist to figure out YOU REPLACE THE CONSPIRACY WITH CONNECTIONAL TO TRY TO SOMEWHAT PUT MAKE UP ON A COMPLETE SHAM
    and why insult millions of people by stating that they dont think for their selfs ?all because they dont agree with you? one can only picture what it would be like if you were in control ha thats why you claim this site as facts so that you feel in power in the know in control huh? you know this too which makes it worst i bet you feel a burn as you read this thats your embarassment cyborgs pshyops????? you watch too much sci fi do you watch stargate ? who produces that show ? “double secret productions “oh my!!!! lol
    jesuits by the way are the left arm of the church less as strict and i’m talking about the preist order
    i rest the case that your absoulute nonsense is completely conspiracy theories nothing more because we are trying to make our world better and your lacking in the” go get it done “department you complain and moan and make up irrational conspiracy theories or should i say connectional? about the people who are committed to helping the world out you assume automactic that their agenda is evil
    futher more your incompetent cant get anything done nor will you dare let anyone else get anything done by trying your hardest to attack everything anyone trys to do we all learn by trial and error history proves that my own life proves that i will never touch a stove burner again after i burned myself as a young child it is only common sense
    and by the way president bush is not a catholic more to prove you are anti catholic bobo
    pj you need help no one is after you please go talk with a priest i have done my part this will go on and on so go join a organization that is good and back it up all you can do is try to learn from your mistakes
    may god bless you and your family
    ryan

  104. Ryan
    You failed to back up your diatribe with historical and current facts. You haven’t even made an attempt to refute anything that’s posted on this message board. Which goes to show that you can’t rebut or articulate your position.
    You claim that we are wrong…Then prove it…give us a history lesson.

    But let’s get real…You can’t do that because you have no case.
    The Vatican is evil, it has always been, and as long as that institution thrives it will continue to be evil.

    You’ve made 16 post and you’ve proved that you can’t substantiate you position.

    Ryan I challenge you to give us a researched thesis on your postion.

    I’m willing to bet you can’t…LOL!!!
    And do you know why?
    Because when it’s all said and done you really don’t have anything to say.

  105. Ryan,

    Yeah, policemen, firemen, doctors, nurses, paramedics, business-owners, store-managers, etc all work Sundays, and this is what you have to say about them:

    “imangine [sp!] what kind of career that is lol” you say.

    Which is just more evidence of what kind of a creepy, arrogant lowlife you are. At least I work for a living and don’t take handouts from anyone. I have spent my whole life helping others to improve their lives both in my career and on my own time. I bet that’s a lot more than you can say.

    And I imagine you: let’s see, a pot-bellied unemployed, disfunctional, perverted dirtball, living in your mother’s basement, who has nothing but free time to sit around at the computer taking potshots at people who are trying to expose the Illuminati and their New World Order system which includes the cult that you belong to. At least that is how you come off here in your comments.

    As far as connections go, there is nothing but connections between fascists, nazis and the Catholic Church and thus your cult. And I think it is very safe to say that you are a stinkin fascist and an arrogant blowhard.

    The sad truth is most people do not think for themselves. They take whatever is handed to them by the media, religion and the government and accept it as fact, never bothering to confirm the information given. And you are among them, but are really a worst-case scenario to the point that you actually go around trying to convert others to the filthy lies you are living. Which is completely repulsive and disgusting to anyone with integrity.

    No, I don’t control anyone and don’t have the least desire to control anyone, unlike your religion, and especially your cult, and others like it which are about nothing more than control and tyranny over the minds of men, women and children.

    All I am doing is showing the truth. If people hate it or love it, I have absolutely no control over their reactions or what they do with it. I do this only out of a natural reaction to the evil I see enacted everyday in the world, evil of which you are a part.

    Right now, I am showing the truth about Ryan, the arrogant fascist blowhard. You are evil. Your heart is full of it, and the cult you are involved in is evil to the core. Which is naturally why you gravitated to it in the first place. And I wouldn’t have anything remotely to do with one of your perverted homosexual pedophile priests. You can have em.

    And nope, I don’t feel any “burn” of embarrassment from your delusional lunatic comments. I know what I am saying is true because I took the time to research the facts, unlike you. My conscience is completely clear and I am very much at peace with what I am doing. All I feel from reading your ridiculous comments is disgust, nothing more.

    You laugh with disdain at me for exposing the agenda to make cyborgs out of human beings and claim it is because I watch too much scifi or whatever. But every year more and more people are being microchipped, and you couldn’t give a rat’s ass about that which is just another sign that you are serving the Illuminati’s NWO agenda.

    You will make any excuse for the government to carry out its agenda to put chips in people’s brains, but again, that is the fascist agenda as revealed by Dr Jose Delgado back in the 1960s. He worked for Franco and the CIA and knew way back then that the Plan was to literally control armies and citizens by making them into robotic cyborgs, techno-slaves to the New World Order system that you love so much because you are evil and sick in the head. Only a creepy sicko would love that.

    There is only one thing that will make this world a better place and that is the truth because all these wars, economic problems, mysterious illnesses, terror psyops, etc are based on lies. Truth is the only antidote to it all, and that is the last thing the Illuminati want. Which is why they and their minions take the time to come here attempting to abuse me or otherwise trash my research.

    Dirtbags like you do everything in their power to cover it up, abuse it and keep it from coming out. You really ought be be ashamed of what you have become, but I know you are not. On the contrary, you are mighty proud of yourself and that truly is a shame.

    And so that is the reason why from now on, your comments are going to be treated as worthless spam because frankly, I allowed you to have your say, more than any other visitor on this thread. You made your point. I let you flap your jaws and expose yourself for what you are and now it’s time to stop wasting my time and the time of others.

    Yer done asshole. Take it someplace else. And you can try using another handle, but I will recognize you, so just know you needn’t bother.

  106. Ryan

    So after all this you still can’t make your case. Now that’s funny…LOL!

  107. ryan, you are nothing but an idiot religious fanatic with your head shoved way up your butt. You flatter yourself with your stupid proclamation of victory, but you are nothing but a loser. bye bye and good riddance.

  108. If Europe was defended during the middle ages by knights of Malta Crusaders, awesome.

    If it is still being defended by such today, awesome.

    None of us westerners would ever have been born into the freedoms that we know without them. We are clearly not in any position to do away with these ‘religious zealots’ just yet, especially with the way things are looking in Iran.

    Thank you.

  109. First of all let me say to pj, Thanks for the site and thread. I came across the site by chance or by fate while doing some research on my grandfather’s. Both of them were 32nd degree masons. One of scottish rite the other I have yet to discover. However that loyalty died with them. Neither side continued the tradition. Part of the reason I began to research. No one talks about it and the son of one of them refused to let him be buried in his masonic robes as was specified in his last request. This pared with the fact that neither side continued the tradition prompted me to do some research on what it was all about. As far as connections I know nothing. I will however do my own research on things you and bobo have suggested as I would like to know more. I myself am of NO faith. I am agnostic. I try to better the world by treating people like I want to be treated. I don’t need a book for that I feel it in my heart. I don’t need anyone to preach to me how I need to act or forgive me when I make mistakes. I own my choices right or wrong and man up to the outcomes of each. As for Ryan, Pj I think your right for the most part in what you think of him. However I think he should be able to express his opinions no matter how obsurd they seem to you or I. He will be the object of his own demise or he will man up with facts. Give him the chance to do one or the other. To do otherwise will credit him like it or not. I’ve enjoyed the thread. It has inspired me to do more research on my own to improve my own understanding.

  110. James,

    Do your research far and wide from as many different sources as possible so as not to fall under anyone’s sway. Then you will develop the most objective view possible and you will be your own man, not a slave to anyone’s agenda. This takes some inner strength and courage to do because you will be assailed from all sides to join their particular group-think.

    Remain agnostic = not knowing all the answers, keeping an open, truth-seeking mind. It is often better to state what something isn’t when you have ruled it out, than to state what something is, when you have incomplete information. So don’t jump to conclusions, but allow knowledge to filter through and accumulate until the Big Picture gets unmistakably clearer and clearer in your mind.

    Personally, I understand life as “spiritual” but I don’t follow any particular religion. I frankly don’t see any other way. If you follow exoteric religion, esoteric occult, or atheism/humanism, you will be under an agenda. The key to truth is within you as an individual. The moment you stop being an individual, and join the herd under peer-pressure, you have lost your way.

    As far as Ryan is concerned, every once in awhile someone really pisses me off and I just get sick and tired of looking at their BS. I think out of all the tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of people I have posting comments here, I have only booted about a half dozen. Believe me, they deserved it. I express myself as I feel it and though it gets messy, I leave it for all to see that I am honest and tell it they way I see it.

    Anyway, I am working on not responding to the jerkoffs and instead just responding to those who demonstate intelligence, respect and sincerity as you have.

    Cheers

    PJ

  111. Dear PJ,
    I applaud you for all the research and hard work you’ve put into uncovering these organizations. I am just as opposed to all of this as you are.
    I had to cringe though, when you wrote, “remain an agnostic”. I’m not picking on you, but I care about you. Ok, now I’m talking to you as I would my own son. I am a born again Christian who loves Jesus with all her heart. I hate religion as much as you do. Our Lord hates it too. No one will be in heaven with the name Baptist, or Catholic etched on their foreheads. Man established denominations. What Jesus seeks is a personal relationship between us and Him. He established that, not man. The bible makes that clear. I love Jesus because He died for me and took my punishment for the sins I committed. I am not trying to convert you to anything…but I do share my faith with others because the Lord tells us to. All scripture is “God breathed” (meaning from the Lord Himself, and given for reproof, correction, teaching, etc. John 1:1, “in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”. I didn’t give my heart to Christ because of any man, but because the Lord revealed His reality to me when I cried out to Him. In other words, I asked, and He answered.
    Having said all that as an introduction, I too am researching about Freemasonry, the Illuminati, etc., etc. It grieves me that people actually think that Christians are connected with these organizations. No doubt there are Christians who have been deceived and drawn into these groups, but can they remain Christians? I highly doubt that. Just because you call yourself a Christian does not mean you are….If I put myself in the garage and called myself a car, it doesn’t make me a car…if you get my meaning.
    There are many Christians who are waking up to the fact that the stage has been set for the New World Order and we are busy researching and exposing it. We have known, because of the book of Revelation and other prophetic books of the bible that this was coming. We were not sure of the means that the antichrist would use to acheive it. It is all becoming so apparent now. But make no mistake about it..this is of the devil himself. No true Christian that I know would have anything to do with it. There are so many false religions, so many cults in the world today, we couldn’t count them all. Our Lord warned us that there would be many false prophets, many who would call themselves Christ. The devil makes sure of that. He wants to blur the lines because he hates Christ and would do anything to try to pull true Christians away from Christ and keep others from coming to the Lord. The devil wants to take as many to hell with him as he can. But the Lord says He will build His church and the gates of hell will not prevail. He is building the true church.
    Ok, you say that you remain open-minded. I hope you will hear me on all of this, whether or not you agree with it. God has given us all a free-will to choose. I am not going to try and convince you that, you too, need Jesus. I just know that for me, I have incredible peace about all of this because the Lord told us to comfort each other with these words, when we began to see these things come to pass. I believe that He has a plan of escape for all who truly believe and follow Him with pure hearts. I would not want to be left here with the rest when this all hits the fan (so to speak). I do however, pray for these people who are so incredibly deceived. Please know that there are some who have come out of the Masons, repented of their sins and their involvement with the Masons and are now on the other side, fighting for the truth.
    I also could give you further information about this. There is a book and CD out by Martha Lucia, called the “The System of the Beast”, from a true Christian perspective. http://www.watchmannetwork.org
    PJ, I pray for you and for your protection in all of this. (please don’t be angry at me for that).This is quite an endeavor for any body. These are perilous times we live in.
    God bless

  112. lol i love the way you fool and mislead other humans into your way of thinking cause you do not care about facts your a liar and a fraud if anyone out there cares about facts can email me at ryanvowiell@msn.com i will talk but i doubt you will allow this comment cause your a control freak

  113. ryan,

    You are a crazy, pscyhopathic, religious fanatic lunatic. That is your problem. If you ever grow up and get your mind straight, realize how evil religion (including Catholic religion) is, realize how it literally brainwashes people like you into being mindless, irrational morons and drives them insane, then finally say you are sorry, and start offering some intelligent, thoughtful comments on the New World Order system, you will be welcomed back with open arms.

    Otherwise, I’m sick of your crap and that is why I don’t want to see any of your ravings again.

    You have zero respect for me and I have zero respect for you. Nobody is forcing you to come here and yet you keep coming back like a moth to a flame. Its a waste of space, time and everything else. I have only deleted a handful of comments out of many, many thousands. That should tell you something about yourself.

    I let you have your say. You said more than enough. And you just keep repeating yourself like a broken record. So that’s it.

    Bye, bye

  114. Ryan
    I don’t get it…”lol i love the way you fool and mislead other humans into your way of thinking” close quote…

    Are you stating that you’re above all mankind? “OTHER HUMANS” What the heck are you anyway?

  115. OK maybe i came off a little bit harsh and didnt make you feel like you are getting the respect that is due to all morally functioning people of our beautiful and spectacular universe I just have total disdain for ( mindless idoits who are all talk and no action no facts and all lies with a little bit of truth to connect the lies together in a great big lie) so i apologize for automatically assuming you are of the same stock as above i truely apologize for sterotyping you now to buisness will you please give me SOLID PROOF of the origins of this theory you have ? where did you get your first evidence that lead you to beleive and think this way ? if its true and has fact i will submit and change my ways cause im a man of truth and bound to it maybe some piece of evidence has eluded me please share your knowlege with me thank you for having me on your site i will wait and see if you post this and respond

  116. Ryan,

    I see no evidence that you have followed up and done any of your own research using the materials provided above to prove or disprove my so-called “theory”. If you had bothered to click on a single reference link and look into it, you would have come up with some kind of pertinent question to ask by now, but because you decided long ago that what I am saying can’t possibly be true, you have blocked your mind from all the evidence provided above and now demand that I “prove” myself to you.

    So you need to go through and read all the above again, go to all the links and read those pages through to get all the proof you need. I can’t do that for you.

    When you have done that, then maybe you and I can have an intelligent discussion about it. Until then, don’t bother me with your demands.

  117. First, its a good discussion you have going here. But let me just make this very clear…….

    IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOTHING!!!!!!!! The elites, the agenda, nothing.

    Now pjwalker I am going to intervene although I agree with many of your points. I need to clarify something as this is very important.

    Ryan, the tops of the so called churches are run by aethiests who are greedy bigots that don’t follow any religion they lie about religion.

    Religion is used to divide the masses.

    Not all Catholics are involved, or Protestants, and there is absolute proof of what they are doing.

    “Around AD1400, European power centers coalesced into two camps: the Ghibellines, who supported the Emperors Hohenstaufen family, and the Guelphs, from Welf, the German prince who competed with Frederick for control of the Holy Roman Empire. The Pope allied himself with the Guelphs. All modern history stems directly from the struggle between these two powers. The Guelphs are also called the Neri, Black Guelphs, or Black Nobility, and supported William of Orange in his seizure of the throne of England, which eventually resulted in the formation of the Bank of England and the East India Company, which would rule the world from the 17th century. All coup d’etats, revolutions and wars in the 19th and 20th centuries are centered in the battle of the Guelphs to hold and enhance their power, which is now the New World Order.

    The power of the Guelphs would extend through the Italian financial centers to the north of France in Lombardy (all Italian bankers were referred to as “Lombards”). Lombard in German means “deposit bank”, and the Lombards were bankers to the entire Medieval world. They would later transfer operations north to Hamburg, then to Amsterdam and finally to London. The Guelphs would start the slave trade to the colonies. The Guelphs, in order to aid their control of finance and politics, would perpetuate gnostic cults which eventually developed into the Rosicrucians, Unitarians, Fabian Society and the World Council of Churches. The East India company, together with John Stuart Mill, would finance the University of London. A friend of Mill, historian George Grote, a founder of London University donated £6000 for the study of “mental health”, which began the worldwide “mental health” movement.

    Banks large and small in the thousands are in the Committee of 300 network, including:

    Banca Commerciale d’Italia

    Banca Privata

    Banco Ambrosiano

    The Netherlands Bank

    Barclays Bank

    Banco de Colombia

    Banco de Ibero-America”

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_blacknobil05.htm

    “Of special interest is Banca del la Svizzeria Italiana (BSI) – since it handles flight capital investments to and from the United States – primarily in dollars and US bonds – located and isolated in “neutral” Lugano, the flight capital center for the Venetian Black Nobility. Lugano is not in Italy or in Switzerland, and is a kind of twilight zone for shady flight capital operations. George Ball, who owns a large block of stock in BSI, is a prominent “insider” and the bank’s US representative.

    In the secret 1822 Treaty of Verona (between Austria, France, Prussia and Russia) the Jesuits agreed to smash the US Constitution and suppress the freedom of the US. Their methods included destroying free speech, destroying and suppressing the press, universal censorship, sustaining the cooperation of the Pope and clergy to use religion to help keep nations in passive obedience and financing wars against countries with representative governments. The monarchs who signed this treaty were ultimately deposed. Most of these families are very wealthy and may be more powerful today than when they sat upon thrones. They are known collectively as the Black Nobility. Privately these families refuse to recognize any right to rule except their own. The fact that this treaty was made long ago does not mean it is void. The treaty was placed in the Congressional Record on April 25, 1916 by Senator Owen.””
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_blacknobil05.htm
    http://home.tiscali.de/alex.sk/A_Springmeier.html
    http://relay4thetruth.blogspot.com/2007/10/black-nobility.html

    There you have it, absolute proof these bigots exist. As to what they are they are Zionists.

    The Catholic/Reformation/Evangelical/All Churches have been infiltrated by Zion.

    These people were brainwashed under severe, non-ending JUDAISM Biblical bullshit.

    Talmudic Satanism!!!!!!!!!!!

    These mercenaries are completely nuts. The Vatican while its always been pretty corrupt, has been taken over by Zionists totally.

    The CATHOLIC/PROTESTANT religion is NOT doing all this bullshit. Ask the head of your Knight of Malta organization and he will explain its the Judaism-Goat worshipping christains who have destroyed the churches once again.

    Mostly these aethiests are all at the top and they all follow Talmud, they are Zionists. The Zionists rule every single facet and dictate of the corporations and the levers of conspiracy!!!!

    Anything else is a big fat LIE. RELIGION is their tool of violence to deliberately attack and divide people, period. They are aethiests.

  118. Five years into the 21st century with 45 million dead by abortion, the problems of teen pregnancy, AIDS, divorce and so on, not to mention the murder of Terri Schiavo followed closely by the holy death of John Paul II in a Providential juxtaposition, there is very little you can say to someone who still confuses permissiveness with compassion.

    Nevertheless, this has not stopped various media pundits from describing Pope Benedict XVI with labels intended perjoratively as “conservative” “hard-liner” “Panzer Kardinal” even “Nazi,” and other offensive. descriptions that have been around for 20 years, but which now border on anti-Catholic slurs and bigotry.

    Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI’s views are not conservative, but Catholic—plainly and simply Catholic. In fact, the hot-button issues in question are not his views or John Paul II, views but Christ’s views. Both men serve under Christ and do not make up the rules.

    There are no ecclesiastical police raiding people’s bedrooms and medicine cabinets for contraception, condoms and so forth. No one can stop anyone from using these things. But it is clear that the Church opposes them and they are objectively against the teaching of Christ as it comes to us in the Church’s Magisterium, which enjoys infallibility, by the very words of Christ in the Gospel (see Matthew 16:16-20, Luke 10:16).

    Science and demographics are now tragically vindicating Church teaching on contraception. It is both harmful to women’s bodies and the health of marriages and harmful to the world’s demographic balance which is in free-fall in the West.

    Christianity, and Catholicism in particular, is a lifelong struggle to conform one’s life to Christ. This is called life in Christ. All of us are at different stages of this journey, but if we persist in proscribed practices we should at least have the honesty to recognize it is we who stayed from Christ, not the Church which has abandoned us. Sin by it’s very nature is alienating. It separates us from God, others and even ourselves.

    Thus the modern experience of angst, loneliness and alienation. We have every right to ask the Church to forgive our sins as Christ gave her the power to do. But it is absurd to expect the Church to bless and approve the sinful behaviors that harm us so much.

    The great sin of “modern” American Catholics—those who demand the Church “change”—is idolatry. They take their moral cues from sources other than Christ’s Church.

    They take their instruction from secularism, careerism, feminism, liberalism, hedonism, the Zeitgeist, “prevailing wisdom,” and popular “climates of opinion;” all ideologies which amount to false gods. Serious Catholics know it is we who must convert to the true God, not the Church that must convert to us, blessing every passing impulse we think we have no right to refuse..

    Take it or leave it, this is what it means to follow Christ as a Catholic.

    When you hear someone say in a smug know-it-all tone of voice, “The Church has to get into the 21st century” meaning change her teaching to accommodate modern day sin ask them, “Who says so?”

    (Actually, John Paul II left all those critics in the dust of the 1960s and brought the Church into the 21st century before anyone else got there.)

    Who says the Church must change her teaching on contraception, ordaining priestesses, homosexuality and abortion? Don’t we have enough promiscuity, sexual confusion, and death?

    The authority of the Church to teach on these issues comes direct from Christ along with his promise to protect those teachings on faith and morals from all error. So who stands above Christ insisting these teachings “must change?”

    I would really like to hear Catholic dissidents explain who (or what) that authority is.

    Wouldn’t you?

  119. Ryan
    You sound crazier every day. What is your point…and who cares? This article that you cut and pasted doesn’t change anything. The Vatican is still an evil institution under the boot of Zionism/Rothschild interest.
    And you’re still a staunch member of the Knights of Columbus, which is a controlled Illuminati asset.
    Get a clue…

  120. There’s a man on the web known as Doctor Quack at moleculardyne.com. I have been a subscriber to his alternative medicine blog for over a year. Very interesting fellow! Funny and helpful. I think he might be SMOM? A link on his page goes straight to it but he doesn’t say if he is or not. In his writings, he has indicated a friendliness to and origin among freemasons but also grumbles about them. I really don’t know. He does have some sort of coat of arms displayed on the site and is engaged in medical work common to the hospitaller. He sure is a radical scientist. What’s really creepy is that he works at reversing cancer while his ancestors clearly related the development of atomic energy. If he is SMOM, I figure he’s not one of the high level satanists. Real neat guy. I don’t think he’d be involved in their evil or welcome deep among it but maybe he knows something about it?

  121. A quick glance of Dr Quack’s website tells me he is either a SMOM knight or Knight of St John which is essentially the same thing, that he is pro-feudalism, pro-McCain who is pro-Zionist Neocon establishment, that he is promoting New Age teachings and integrating them with mainstream Christianity and this is what the elite have always done, though previously they kept the secret teachings entirely to themselves. The elite gave us our old religions and they are giving us new religions to follow today. A New Age Religion for the New World Order.

  122. You are probably right but I always find him defending God, Jesus, and against New Age. Just in the last couple days he’s been arguing against atheists. I watched him this morning spit out Hebrew for God against an atheist Jew.
    http://www.hpathy.com/homeopathyforums/forum_posts.asp?TID=7925&TPN=7
    He’s very anti-abortion. If you look at his thoughts on “how to cure abortion”, he has an Aramaic bible study forum very pro-God and pro-Christ. I really don’t know what he is but he’s either a very good guy or a very bad one. Maybe somewhere inbetween but that would be unusual. I will just ask him what he makes of this SMOM and let you know.

  123. Hi Cherly
    my name is ryan and would love to ask you why do you think he is evil or bad ? because he supports a medical society / order which promotes pro life medical practices and charities? im not attacking you or discrediting you one bit but you are asking the wrong crowd for advice or jugdement I’m lucky enough not to be censored again yet cause this site is under control of a few who only want there world veiw heard even if it means deceiving and censoring the site you will find out if you dont agree with them when you find out what the orders are all about may god bless you and your family

    as for boo boo my point is facts what i posted is proven fact i have been looking and studing all the links and books that are mentioned on this page including the roots and origins of the authors, publishers,and theories and im still researching the bunch of lies which only specalate on topics blown out of context im almost ready to show this site for what it really is ["pj walker " ]

  124. Okay Ryan, tell what this site is really about. We would all love to hear it.

    I know, I know, I do terrible things like exposing the New World Order, Freemasonry, the Illuminati, perpetual war, the gradual elimination of our constitutional rights, the enslavement of humanity, the amalgamation of the US into the North American Union, the murder of innocent children everywhere and other high crimes of the elite.

    And there you are curiously enough defending all of it because you are a member of one of the Illuminati’s masonic-styled Orders, the Knights of Columbus.

    No Ryan, you are the criminal, the useful idiot of the fascist elite. As I said before, you are a psychopath, a fanatic enemy of truth and freedom, so why don’t you admit it to yourself and everyone else?

    Stand proud Ryan!

  125. Y’all might like this. Could take a couple posts. From Doc Quack.
    —————————-
    I saw your notes on that site. Don’t have time to review all their site, but you are welcome to post my comments there. Whatever. I am both anti-New World Order and pro-New World Order in a Christendom/ Hospitable/ Global American Republic kinda way. Sometimes I joke that I’m an American-Catholic Imperialist; Kinda like the Spanish Empire reincarnate as American (and that’s partly because most of the Catholic conclave history to us originated among service to Spain). That’s all that red and gold in half our coat of arms. The rest is mostly British and Scottish pagan savage origins later gone Christian. :-) Talk to you later.

  126. Hi Cheryl,

    No, I am not SMOM. Not sure if I ever will be. Not sure if I care to be. I could be wrong, but they seem a little Catholic snobby for my taste. At the same time, they do much good. Haven’t explored them enough to properly comment. Yes, I am a member of three conclaves. Two are sub-Masonic/sub-Templar — U.S. military fraternal orders among the officer corps (kinda like an overgrown Boy Scout culture) mostly set up to build basically Eagle Scouts. I have never been keen on the Masonry aspects within it, but they do build for us the top 10% of this country’s top 10%. These are not your cozy, desk jockey officers. These are the dead serious ones who serve — often invisibly — for life; Despite any changes in rank, pay, or politics. When you task them with something, it’s as good as done or they do die trying. And I never had to engage in their rituals, oaths, and welcomes; for, if you just do your work well enough, the Masons and sub-Masons are always happy to adopt folks. I have, to date, found nothing contrary to Christ or country with them, and much the opposite. Is there an insidious dimension? New World Order? Secularism and occult deeper at the core? I suspect so and, yes, there’s some as a larger society. But, of what I can see and verify — as the fruits of their tree and things under my watch — it is nothing I would weigh as dwarfing the good they do. And I am also friends with many Masons and Templars. Half my family comes from Protestant Templar/Masons; The other half from anti-Mason Catholics and Templar/Mason/quasi-Templar&Masonic Catholics. In fact, one of the best grandpas I ever knew was a Scottish Rite Mason while my other uncles were Shriners and 33rd Masons. So, we pretty well understand what’s going on there.

    The subject of Templars, Masonry, and Christianity could fill volumes upon volumes of debate. One has to separate condemnation of the religion and philosophy from the good and great men who often uphold such religion and world views. In fact, the Church’s ability to move in the world tends to be built upon the confessional intelligence, conversion, diplomatic, and secretive functions of Masonry. It is like a cancerous, symbiotic organism whose destruction is also detrimental to the host nations since The Craft is the foundation of this Republic and Christianity enjoys sanity and Freedom under republics. Ah, the Devil is a brilliant general; for he made it so that hating Masonry is to hate George Washington, Ben Franklin, Newton, Dr. Hahnemann, and so many others who properly rebelled against Church tyranny and monarchy. Where the Church does evil and wrong with excesses and abuse of power, you may consider me a quasi-Freemason, indeed. Where the world of secularism does evil and wrong with excesses and abuse of power, you may consider me anti-Freemason, also. I do not blindly follow anyone or anything nor give my allegiances to anything I think Christ would detest.

    As for the only conclave which keeps my allegiances and oaths, I will tell you that she is too little to be conquering the world but I wish she could! :-) Her origins are Hospitaller/ Catholic, yes, but most recently evolved among Stigmatic/ Capuchin/ Jesuit influence over the last century. During WW2 Resistance and Cold War anti-communist actions, she performed miraculously against evil and with much blood lost. Yes, her membership and friends also included Templars and Masons of militant Christian and Allied streaks, but the conclave itself is strictly Catholic (just like SMOM because its origins were once SMOM). There was no SMOM split off, but just evolution and changes in membership over time which carried the small tradition. What I like about the conclave is none of this ritual and snobbery. Very little institution. Not even a name. Not much focus on what divides men theologically, but mostly missionary zeal. It is one of the truest legacies of the Hospitaller order. And what I have always liked about the Hospitaller legacy overall (not just SMOM), is that, unlike the Templars (both rightfully prosecuted and also unjustly persecuted by the Church), the Hospitaller’s way never was at odds with the Church. In fact, it gobbled up the fallen Templar world.
    Yet, just as the Jesuits have fallen to evil in many places, all orders — religious or military — are vulnerable to such things where secrecy becomes a virtue; for secrecy is the art of the “hidden” and the occultic, and the Devil does waltz right in. There are valid considerations for keeping things secret, but it must never become a virtue of snobbery, enlightenment, lies, and vanity. The more institutional, cozy, rich, and decadent these orders grow, the less they stick to their original consecrations and missions. That is how the Templars fell, but the Hospitaller way took greater focus on sincerely serving the sheep, and so warded off the Devil much better. You will find a video on my site off to the left under the “Fides, Spes, et Caritas!” motto. I really could care less what anyone makes of Christianity or my own. Most people with opinions don’t DO like in that video. They talk, talk, talk and profess to know Christ and Mary, but, in the end, they’re all talk, talk, talk. Those who DO and are busy tending to the hurting sheep really don’t give a hoot whether it is a Templar, Mason, Jew, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, nature worshipper, atheist, or whatever lending them a hand. Faith based in talk is equally of the Devil while that based in action tends to be far less so, and I believe God looks after the good-hearted while I know that is the only thing which most properly secures conversion.

    And that’s how I live with myself. It’s called being hospitable; The act of exercising Christian hospitality; Of forming hospitals. If one moves away from the worldly, monetary, and military things to just that, there’s no Devil in it. :-)

  127. Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 6:41 PM
    Subject: Question for you.

    Dear Doc:

    On the website you put up some crests and they link to the knights of malta. what are these? Are you with smom or any other secret societies like the freemasons? You write a lot about Jesus so how do you live with yourself if part of these groups and their push for new world order? Here is a link you should check out http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/blackwater-knights-of-malta-in-iraq/

    Yours in Christ,

    Cheryl

  128. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!! get with the times!

    Get all your facts together and I mean FACTS/ historical aspects, sources and the like. Figure out that one day st. pope “six”tus the 6th will be in power and as a matter of fact triple six is the mark of an asshole. You have to be fooled to not see such a simple prophesy. Yet again do your research and then respond to me. A lot of you in this forum had many things to say good and stupid. It is perfectly fine because a lot of you people are being tricked and fooled by many things in life. So continue to look up what I already have. You have to see that the connection of all true “evil” is connected to the church, no matter how bad that sounds. However… The good thing ALL GOOD is connected to the Church as well. Understand me here, I am not tryin to joke with any of you. To shock some of you other folks our Government is corrupt. DUHHH. chew on that now

  129. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Hey ryan buddy. You figure out the facts too. smart guy and stop talking down to the OPEN forum. moron

  130. Look, there is no religious overtones to the new world order even though its dangerous as well.

    Obviously we know the new world order is out there.

    But it is not religious at all, its secular at best and completely roman talmudic at worst.

    The “New World Order” is using religion as a child who finds their father’s gun. It is using religion, to incite all of you, yes, against one another.
    http://www.jewsonfirst.org/foreignpol.html

    Who ultimately benefits is Israel and its Zionist leaders of the vatican who are all insane.

    Yes you read correctly, Zionist Jews & Christains an entire army of Zionists. Zionism is the worst mistake ever on mankind, it causes millions to believe they are chosen races, slaughter the palestinians, demand obedience to Israel’s black bible and even exterminate the hebrews.

    Welcome to the last world war, Isra-hell & its vatican gypsies controls the globe.

  131. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Well see that is where you can go wrong. If the evil side of media is getting your mind to think that way about God and the rest of the world then it has you in the palm of its evil greedy hands. I said hands because all that New World Order stuff is a bunch hands caught up in their twisted global network of corporations and charity cover-front events. DON’T IGNORE THE TRUTH one bit. All this is out there right! Do something about it and work to try and make this a better place starting with you cause at the end of the day all you have is you. You get in to risky territories when you start categorizing a bunch of people in to certain segments. Now we have a global issue on our hands which is more serious than any baby boomer can handle at this point in life. So we are lucky and have a lot of tools to get to the truth. The first step to getting to the truth is understanding what is out there to be seen.

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  133. Some new & very meaningful political cartoons—Homer

  134. Vatican Publishes Study on 4th Crusade

    Seeks Impartial Look at Event That Cemented 1054 Schism

    VATICAN CITY, JULY 1, 2008 (Zenit.org).- A study of the famous 4th Crusade of the 13th century — which was called to rescue Jerusalem from Islam but resulted instead in a sack of Christian Constantinople — has been published by the Vatican.

    The Vatican Publishing House has released a volume collecting the addresses in various languages from a conference held in 2004 on the 4th Crusade. That year was the 800th anniversary of the crusade that went awry. The 13th-century event is considered to have cemented the Great Schism with the Orthodox that had occurred in 1054.

    The 2004 conference was organized by the Pontifical Committee of Historical Sciences, in collaboration with the Institute of Byzantine History of the University of Athens and the Institute of Byzantine and Neo-Greek Studies of the University of Vienna.

    The volume is titled “The 4th Crusade Revisited” and it has an interdisciplinary scope, including considerations of the political, anthropological and theological implications of the crusade.

    Monsignor Walter Brandmuller, president of the pontifical committee, wrote in the prologue that the volume was edited with the intention of “contributing to the completion of the historians’ great project and to the purification of memory, which has been indicated by the path that has to lead to the coexistence of men, nations and religions, characterized by reciprocal understanding and benevolence.”

    He said the congress welcomed the invitation of the Pope, convinced that a “serious and impartial writing of history” without prejudices and based in “rigorous historical method” would be an indispensable tool in reaching this goal.

    The volume brings together texts prepared by people of various nations and religious creeds, seeking what they call the step from suspicion to truth in charity.

    — — —

    On the Net:

    “The 4th Crusade Revisited”: http://www.libreriadelsanto.it/libri/8820980630/the-fourth-crusade-revisited.html

  135. Members of the Order

    The Order of Malta is one of the few Orders created in the Middle Ages and still active today. It is also the only one that is at the same time religious and sovereign. This is due to the fact that most of the other Orders of chivalry lacked the hospitaller function which characterises the Order of Malta, so they disappeared as soon as the military purposes that represented the reasons for their existence ceased.

    The knighthood nature explains and justifies the maintenance of the noble nature of the Order, as most of its Religious Knights came from chivalrous and noble Christian families. Today the majority of Knights belong to all classes of society. The members of the Order may be defined as Catholics enlivened by altruistic nobleness of spirit and behaviour. All Knights must meet the traditional requirement for the bestowing of knighthood: distinguish themselves for special virtues. The knighthood nature of the Order has kept its moral value, characterised by the spirit of service, sacrifice and discipline of today’s Knights. Battles are no longer fought with swords, but with the peaceful tools of the fight against disease, poverty, social isolation and intolerance, as well as the defence and promotion of the faith.

    All the 12,500 Knights and Dames of the Order, whether professed friars or lay members, are devoted to the exercise of Christian virtue and charity, and committed to achieving their spiritual perfection within the Church and to expending their energies caring for others.

    The three Classes

    According to the Constitutional Charter, the members of the Order are divided into three Classes. The members are to conduct their lives in an exemplary manner in conformity with the teachings and precepts of the Church and to devote themselves to the humanitarian assistance activities of the Order.

    Members of the First Class are Knights of Justice, or Professed Knights, and the Professed Conventual Chaplains, who have made vows of “poverty, chastity and obedience aspiring to perfection according to the Gospel”. They are religious for all purposes of Canon Law but are not obliged to live in community.

    The members of the Second Class, by virtue of the Promise of Obedience, are committed to living according to Christian principles and the inspiring principles of the Order. They are subdivided into three categories:

    - Knights and Dames of Honour and Devotion in Obedience
    - Knights and Dames of Grace and Devotion in Obedience
    - Knights and Dames of Magistral Grace in Obedience

    The Third Class consists of lay members who do not profess religious vows or the Promise, but who live according to the principles of the Church and the Order. They are divided into six categories:

    - Knights and Dames of Honour and Devotion
    - Conventual Chaplains ad honorem
    - Knights and Dames of Grace and Devotion
    - Magistral Chaplains
    - Knights and Dames of Magistral Grace
    - Donats (male and female) of Devotion

    The requisites for admission to the various classes and categories are determined by the Code.

  136. Mimic Orders
    The Sovereign Military Order of Malta wishes to point out the proliferation all over the world of bodies and associations which, using symbols and names not unlike those of the Order, are trying to represent themselves as legitimate and recognised orders of Saint John. Besides creating misunderstanding and confusion, they hurt the good will the Order has established over many years.

    These organisations have no connection whatsoever with the Sovereign Military Order of Malta whose headquarters is located in Rome, at Via Condotti 68, and which maintains formal diplomatic relations with over 100 States and International Organisations. It is also recognised by the United Nations, and by the Holy See.

    Caution is strongly recommended when considering proposals or appeals from organisations claiming to be the “Order of Malta” or the Order of Saint John.
    Please have their authenticity confirmed by one of our Grand Priories, National Associations or Diplomatic Missions. For a complete list of the Order’s entities, please visit the “Around the World” section of this web site.

  137. Names of the OrderSince its founding 960 years ago, many names have been used to identify the Order and its members. Its history has been one of movement from one country to another, which has added to the increase of its names.
    Today the official and legal name of the Order of Malta is: Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and Malta. Abbreviations of the name – Sovereign Military Order of Malta, Sovereign Order of Malta, or Order of Malta – are used for legal, diplomatic or communications purposes.

  138. The 79 Grand Masters
    1 Blessed Gerard Sept. 3 1120

    2 Fra’ Raymond du Puy 1120 – c. 1158/60
    3 Fra’ Auger de Balben c. 1158/60 – 1162/3
    4 Fra’ Arnaud de Comps 1162 – 1163
    5 Fra’ Gilbert de Aissailly 1163 – c.1169/70
    6 Fra’ Gastone de Murols c. 1170 – c. 1172
    7 Fra’ Gilbert c. 1172 – 1177
    8 Fra’ Roger de Moulins 1177 – c. 1187
    9 Fra’ Hermangard d’Asp 1188 – c. 1190
    10 Fra’ Garnier de Naplous 1189/90 – 1192
    11 Fra’ Geoffroy de Donjon 1193 – 1202
    12 Fra’ Alfonse of Portugal 1203 – 1206
    13 Fra’ Geoffrey le Rat 1206 – 1207
    14 Fra’ Garin de Montaigu 1207 – c. 1227/8
    15 Fra’ Bertrand de Thessy c. 1228 – 1231
    16 Fra’ Guerin 1231 – 1236
    17 Fra’ Bertrand de Comps 1236 – c. 1239/40
    18 Fra’ Pierre de Vielle-Bride 1239/40 – 1242
    19 Fra’ Guillaume de Chateauneuf 1242 – 1258
    20 Fra’ Hugues de Revel 1258 – 1277
    21 Fra’ Nicolas Lorgne 1277/8 – 1284
    22 Fra’ Jean de Villiers 1284/5 – c. 1293/4
    23 Fra’ Odon de Pins 1294 – 1296
    24 Fra’ Guillaume de Villaret 1296 – 1305
    25 Fra’ Foulques de Villaret 1305 – 1319
    26 Fra’ Helion de Villeneuve 1319 – 1346
    27 Fra’ Dieudonné de Gozon 1346 – 1353
    28 Fra’ Pierre de Corneillan 1353 – 1355
    29 Fra’ Roger de Pins 1355 – 1365
    30 Fra’ Raymond Berenger 1365 – 1374
    31 Fra’ Robert de Juliac 1374 – 1376
    32 Fra’ Jean Fernandez de Heredia 1376 – 1396
    33 Fra’ Riccardo Caracciolo 1383 – 1395
    34 Fra’ Philibert de Naillac 1396 – 1421
    35 Fra’ Antonio Fluvian de Riviere 1421 – 1437
    36 Fra’ Jean de Lastic 1437 – 1454
    37 Fra’ Jacques de Milly 1454 – 1461
    38 Fra’ Piero Raimondo Zacosta 1461 – 1467
    39 Fra’ Giovanni Battista Orsini 1467 – 1476
    40 Fra’ Pierre d’Aubusson 1476 – 1503
    41 Fra’ Emery d’Amboise 1503 – 1512
    42 Fra’ Guy de Blanchefort 1512 – 1513
    43 Fra’ Fabrizio del Carretto 1513 – 1521
    44 Fra’ Philippe de Villiers de l’Isle-Adam 1521 – 1534
    45 Fra’ Piero de Ponte 1534 – 1535
    46 Fra’ Didier de Saint-Jaille 1535 – 1536
    47 Fra’ Jean de Homedes 1536 – 1553
    48 Fra’ Claude de la Sengle 1553 – 1557
    49 Fra’ Jean de la Vallette (or Valette) 1557 – 1568
    50 Fra’ Pierre de Monte 1568 – 1572
    51 Fra’ Jean de la Cassiere 1572 – 1581
    52 Fra’ Hugues Loubenx de Verdala 1581 – 1595
    53 Fra’ Martin Garzez 1595 – 1601
    54 Fra’ Alof de Wignacourt 1601 – 1622
    55 Fra’ Luis Mendez de Vasconcellos 1622 – 1623
    56 Fra’ Antoine de Paule 1623 – 1636
    57 Fra’ Juan de Lascaris-Castellar 1636 – 1657
    58 Fra’ Antoine de Redin 1657 – 1660
    59 Fra’ Annet de Clermont-Gessant 1660
    60 Fra’ Raphael Cotoner 1660 – 1663
    61 Fra’ Nicolas Cotoner 1663 – 1680
    62 Fra’ Gregorio Carafa 1680 – 1690
    63 Fra’ Adrienne de Wignacourt 1690 – 1697
    64 Fra’ Ramon Perellos y Roccaful 1697 – 1720
    65 Fra’ Marc’Antonio Zondadari 1720 – 1722
    66 Fra’ Antonio Manoel de Vilhena 1722 – 1736
    67 Fra’ Raymond Despuig 1736 – 1741
    68 Fra’ Manuel Pinto de Fonseca 1741 – 1773
    69 Fra’ Francisco Ximenes de Texada 1773 – 1775
    70 Fra’ Emmanuel de Rohan-Polduc 1775 – 1797
    71 Fra’ Ferdinand von Hompesch zu Bolheim 1797 – 1802
    72 Emperor Paul I of Russia (de facto) 1799 – 1801
    73 Fra’ Giovanni Battista Tommasi 1803 – 1805
    74 Fra’ Giovanni Battista Ceschi a Santa Croce 1879 – 1905
    75 Fra’ Galeazzo von Thun und Hohenstein 1905 – 1931
    76 Fra’ Ludovico Chigi Albani della Rovere 1931 – 1951
    77 Fra’ Angelo de Mojana di Cologna 1962 – 1988
    78 Fra’ Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie 1988 – 2008
    79 Fra’ Matthew Festing 2008 –

    LIEUTENANTS OF THE GRAND MAGISTRY
    1 Fra’ Innico Maria Guevara-Suardo 1805-1814
    2 Fra’ André Di Giovanni 1814-1821
    3 Fra’ Antoine Busca 1821-1834
    4 Fra’ Carlo Candida 1834-1845
    5 Fra’ Philippe di Colloredo-Mels 1845-1864
    6 Fra’ Alessandro Borgia 1865-1872
    7 Fra’ Giovanni Battista Ceschi a Santa Croce 1872-1879
    8 Fra’ Antoine Hercolani Fava Simonetti “ad interim” 1951-1955
    9 Fra’ Jean Charles Pallavicini “ad interim” 1988 (January-April)
    10 Fra’ Giacomo Dalla Torre del Tempio di Sanguinetto 2008 (February-March)

    LIEUTENANTS OF THE GRAND MASTER
    Fra’ Pio Franchi de’ Cavalieri
    (during 75th Grand Master’s illness) 1929-1931
    Fra’ Ernesto Paternò Castello di Carcaci 1955-1962

  139. Ryan, quit copying and pasting whole webpages into this forum. A true sign of an immature jerkoff. I deleted 2 of them already today among your many posts and am considering more.

    If you want, you can paste a couple paragraphs with a link, but that’s it from now on. And don’t press your luck because you are on probation. If you screw up again, you will be blocked.

  140. And that is permanently Ryan, because you are such an un-Christian jerk who is extremely disrespectful and who I am sick to death of, which is what I expect from a Knight of Columbus or of Malta for that matter. It’s just unbelievable how you people behave. You have no shame whatsoever.

  141. See for another example the behavior of Ryan’s mentor who is apocalyptic. These are Christain Zionists, christain no more for sure.

    The evil side is who would have you believe its the Christains, the Catholics, the “religious” people behind it and you know that is false…

    The zionists whom are zionistic antagonists of the truth belong to no religion at all. They are worshipers of the Talmud, Baphomet the Goat devil, they come from the religion of the Sadducees in fact they are totally poisoned.

    The bullshit they follow is what G-d warned the nations about when speaking to Japeth and Israel, and Isaac and Jacob. And that is the complete concept of a super chosen race.

    His command to all the Hebrews and people of that nation, was treat the stranger as you would wish to be treated. Treat the stranger well, do not murder or hate the stranger in your land.

    Babylon’s command was the opposite, spit on everyone else who does not want to belong to the chosen people. There is no real “chosen people” that was again, all deliberately mistranslated bullshit thanks to the bible. Thanks to these people.

    There was the people of Canaan and the Judeans, they were considered God’s servants. They were not chosen either superficially or physically to rule the state. They were chosen as God’s servants, to spread the word of God instead of the lies of the pharisees.

    They were given their own rules and world to live by. Today the leaders of that land called “Israel” spit on this very notion, as true Zionists they believe that they were chosen to rule everything and it was given to them. Even though it was never given, or consented. And the Zionist christains, their aethiest partners have handed it to them and created without doubt the worst line of brainwashing the world has ever seen come.

    This allows them to twist Zionism for their own political ends, and indeed, re-write the scriptures on behalf of the Devil. Give the forbidden state and its Zion obsessed goons their own chosen super state to act as gods…..and let all the Hebrews and Gentiles be damned.

    Well, their plot almost worked. Real people saw through the religious garbage by seeing the countless videos of Palestine in fiery ruins.

  142. “think that way about God and the rest of the world…”

    I think you should look up the whole history of masonry, for starters. The Gods of Jerusalem in the Bible were so violent and horrid they exterminated millions. MILLIONS. This is the kind of crap that’s written in the bible. Now tell me if any sane christain can accept whats written in it and make it their code of honor.

    If they do that’s one step away from becoming an aethiest zionist, another stone in the never ending cog right where they want you.

    No see, you can’t go by that trash written there or else the Gods are capable of the most heinous murders ever seen. You openly applaud Israel and Greece’s mass murders if you use the Bible as your official guide. You can only go by true christianity and your own spirituality, as there you can see right through their pile of lies. No just God does that only false ones do. Zion has its own false gods, clearly that will be who ultimately learns the hardest lesson.

  143. pj walker my friend dont be upset i like you i really do you are remarkably intelligent and have great skills more then my humble self i assure you i’m just trying to give your site a sense of my faternal order what we stand for what we are really about why wont you talk with me please i can prove to you that we are not the picture that this site is trying to portray
    yes I DO BELEIVE IN A NEW WORLD ORDER and wish to to live the day that it happens but its not the new world order that you are acussing us of we are against it completely everythingwe do is only shows this we are against anything that promotes the destruction of life we are for life the goodness of all life i will fight and die if needed to defend life as did jesus fought the devil to wash of our sins and save the world . all one needs to do is develope a understanding of respect for life family and community and embrace it defend it
    im not perfect but that doesnt stop me from trying to be as christ like as possible

    truly ,
    ryan

  144. Like it or not this has to be discussed and we know based on factual evidence that propaganda was at its highest point in world war 2– People were led to believe all kinds of fictions to stop germany.

    Not paying your income tax made you a NAZI, and today these same zionist neocons who run the arms industry still believe that.

    They believe that if you don’t pay the income tax you help kill all the jews or become some NAZI, and other extremist bull. But research the facts and you see this is far from the truth-PAYING the income tax actually encourages it.

    Who does that with no help from the general public is the zionist neocons because they constantly foster bloodshed and war for profit, then blames it on all the jews & religion.

    So these scumbags use the income tax for supremacist agendas, and are nothing but the opposite extreme of the NAZIs & Stalin.

    Whoever wrote that film at the time was probably brainwashed with propaganda. If you REFUSE to pay the income tax, you are a normal american not a NAZI. If you refuse to support Israel like the jewish community who refuses, you are an American not a self-hating NAZI.

    If you refuse to support legislating the bombing of Lybia, you are an American then not a self-hating NAZI. The only NAZIs today is the military industrial complex run by a bunch of pathetic supremacists and it shows.

    Once again learn about the income tax as that was just a big false fraud initiated by the same grecian zionist neocon crooks. Refuse to pay it and stay neutral on the middle east, there’s nobody out there who can force one to pay.

    And to deny sending “INCOME TAX” is definitely to be anti zionist it is flat good.

  145. Please read more on these links to understand the scope of the issue, and how utterly immoral our federal banking system is.
    http://www.rightsandwrong.com.au/

    Many people have said that they create inflation automatically which debases the currency until the dollar goes down the pike. Now it is coming true, as that’s what the Israel first crusaders are doing.

    Understand that we do not at all support illogical positions, such as deporting the Jews and the Christains to Israel. In fact, the majority of jews are anti-zionist already and do not support the christain fundamentalists.

    Regrettably the majority of christains are brainwashed however to support this fanatical movement. While the majority of christain leaders are anti zionist anyway, there is a very vocal minority of false christain leaders who are proud supporters of this apartheid movement.

    They are complete maniacs who against better judgment got major christain churches to support them. These are the christain end-timers from the Order of Malta, catholic society, protestant churches who send all their tax dollars to Israel which is what keeps the war going. These end-timers are totally violent about their beliefs, and are not even aware of the massive Federal Reserve banking fraud.

    End-timers solution is to kill off 2/3 in the middle east and obey the worst of the bible. The christain zionists didn’t care when it happened in Kashmir, and they aren’t about to start care now.

    Our suggestion is for the American people and Europeans to unite behind one purpose, to abolish the Federal Reserve. If we totally abolish the Federal Reserve system and the middle east continues running serious peace negotiations, then the whole scenario will be stopped.

    Each Bank has people in shackles they know not of these are the large federal banks, break free of the shackles & stop giving to them anything. Move with one voice to abolish the Federal Reserve while engaging in your normal activities, and we can and will abolish the Fed. At that point violent zionists will be arrested & hopefully everything will be totally stopped.

  146. Ryan, you ARE for the New World Order. This bird has two wings: a Left Wing and a Right Wing. You support the Right Wing against the Left Wing of it, all the while the real elites at the capstone of this Masonic pyramid control both wings because they are connected to the same body, and the same brain. It is called variously the Hegelian Dialectic, Divide and Conquer, Good Cop/Bad Cop and that is what you are supporting. They finance both sides of wars. They create enemies and then proceed to fight them which gives them pretexts for their “solutions”. The world is being formed into a global government. The Popes call for this New World Order as do political elites of both the Right and the Left. By supporting the Catholic Church, The Jesuits, the Knights of Malta, KOC etc, you are just helping them achieve this global dictatorship. In the end, you become their useful idiot whom they mock behind your back for falling for the con-game.

  147. the pope is the vicar of christ the new world order he wishes is the same new world order jesus started now there is a competing factor which wants there own kind of new world order a very sick and twisted version one that certainly is against god and is the works of the devil millions of people have fallen victim to this wether their aware of it or not some more greedy then others some more active then not pj do you know how satin works ? do you know you myself included can unintentionally fall under his spell and web of deceit illusions lies ? its as plan as day and night cold and hot either your for god or against god jesus who formed the catholic church and handed the keys to the gates of heaven and blessed it with infallibilty said your “neither hot nor cold i spit you out like luke warm milk” god is a dictator of sorts but it is not our right to attach such a worldly name to him he is our father our king what will you do if he tells you to do something? what would you tell him if you met him befor you ? would you serve him?
    thank you so much for your time pj walker
    ryan

  148. The Roman elites formed the Catholic Church to control ignorant people like you Ryan. You are willfully ignorant, basing your whole life on delusions handed to you by said elites. What is worse is that you have become a fanatic to the point that you actually try to convince others of the same lies. The current pope covered up the pedophile scandal in the Church. He works hand in glove with Bush and Blair, two of the biggest New World Order creeps on the planet. Blair himself is now recently become a Catholic and Bush looks like he will follow suit. This is a very diabolical cabal at the top of the Vatican and I am warning people about it. You can go right on convicting yourself as an accomplice to the New World Order all you want. You just will not be doing it here any more. You are finished wasting my time and spewing your mind-control cult propaganda on my blog. Permanently. Should have done it a long time ago.

  149. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Vicious you are PJ. not sticking up for ryan too much but the guy truly did not mean that much harm. He wants a better world as we all do but we know that this new world order isn’t necessarily going to cut it. However it will bring positive change in the world, at least that is what they will tell us in the long-run. We have to understand that we just have to watch this unfold very closely. Keeping our eyes on this Lisbon Treaty deal going on in the EU right now. I am researching what is happening but thank goodness for good ol’ Ireland keeping the fight alive. However if the EU does not respect Ireland’s vote on the Treaty than we are headed toward this new world order if we like it or not. Also what is the truth with this North American Union (NAU)? Is that really true or is that something that could happen soon? It is the events that are taking place that we cannot forget to understand because before this new world order takes affect the world governments have to become unions like the EU. So far the EU is it from what I learned in school but other unions are following suit like ASEAN, GCC, NAFTA, etc. As the entities become more controlled and more unionized then we need to make sure. We also need to make sure this blob stays open because if it does not then big brother does not want us talking about this topic. Then taking away our freedom of speech which is a big no no. So keep your eyes open and keep on discussing people. You are the smart folks I have been searching for. Keep up the good work!!!

  150. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Excuse me for my typos. I did not overview it before I sent it. I thought I was too good to reread, obviously not.

  151. Yes, well if you constantly spam, waste space by constantly repeating the same things over and over, pester, attack me while defending the Illuminati, and propagandizing for the secret societies like the masonic-KOC, all at the same time, then I do become rather unpleasant. You see, I can only tolerate so much bullshit before I get sick of it. And tolerate I did for a long time. But even I can only take so much.

    On the other hand, if you try to have some measure of respect, act rationally, try to see all sides of the NWO, try to come up with an original thought or two that directly bears on the topic at hand, and don’t spam, then I will be the nicest guy you could ever want to know even if we disagree on certain topics. An example is a guy who disagrees with me on the Founding Fathers. He states it without rancor and doesn’t try to convert me. He is respectful and doesn’t spam either. So I have no problem with him.

    Ryan has been blocked because he is like a broken record. He kept saying the same things over and over apparently to annoy and it did work. I got thoroughly annoyed and I don’t like people wasting space with repetitive diatribes. So he’s gone. And he is only the third person I have blocked in two years since this blog started.

  152. I have been studying the relationship between the Knights of Malta, Knights Templars and Tuetonic Knights and damned if I can make any sense of it. Could it be as much a hodgepodge of religious sympathies as the Hammas, Al Qaeda and Taliban?

    When white America cleaned out the Indians and Spaniards, they turned on the French and English. Finally they turned on each other……Hatfields and McCoys….Taylors and Suttons. Gores and Bushes.

    Here’s a simple way to keep score and to know who’s on what team? A simple question.

    Are they fight promoters or seekers of peace? The dialectic you mention is the philosophy of the fight promoters. Left, right, good, bad, black, white, Christian, Muslim, North, South, East, West. Create division and profit from the war. “In Christ there is neither east nor west, slave nor free, male nor female.” Live in a constant state of synsythesis and you have moved from war monger to peace keeper.

    It’s not rocket science…but alas “that which we would not do, we do. And that which we do, we would not.”

    whc

  153. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    fair enough… let’s keep the discussion live! just have to adapt to the situation and move forward. I am living in Germany right now and I probably could be arrested for being a part of such a discussion like this. you know what I say… “fuck the police!” This is how controlled this country is, and don’t even get me started on how blind the people are here to what is going on around them. This just shows you how the overall controlling of the populations are coming along. We are lucky enough to have dodged this control factor and get to the truth, or at least try to find the truth. Key word FIND, it is sad that we have to work hard and collaborate to find the truth that should be transparent. When you have millions of people not knowing anything of their government and how it has been formed then we have problems. I ask my girlfriend what she knows about the EU and the formation, she has no idea and she is European. That is funny to me because she will not know why they start taking her rights away, and it is not even her own country. It will be the new EU central government (still have to watch this all play out.) It is sad that we live in such a “free” world that people don’t pay attention to what is important and ALMOST in front of their faces these days. I am not sure if I got these quotes from you PJ but our forefathers did have this to say.

    John Adams, wrote to Thomas Jefferson “I do not like the late resurrection of the Jesuits. Shall we not have swarms of them here, in as many shapes and disguises as ever a gypsy king assumed. If any congregation of men could merit eternal perdition on earth and in hell, it is this company of Loyola.”
    “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.”
    — James Madison

    We can’t forget that evil will try to hide itself within good because if it can successfully make people think good is bad it has done it’s job. Whatever evil may be, that is what makes it such a fucked up thing. Too hard to pin point, but we have to stay true and find out our own truths.

  154. Germany has always been a police state at least since Hitler took over. When I was there in the 70s, they had checkpoints everywhere and cops with machine guns on every street corner in the cities who could demand ID and search anyone at will. They would stop cars at random on the street, then basically kidnap people and ransack their homes at will. The only good thing was that the jails were, clean, comfortable and well-organized just as you would expect from Germans.

    Evil does not always hide behind Good, but especially at the highest levels of power it does, behind the facades of “charity” and “freedom”.

  155. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    well said

  156. The Jesuitical christain zionists are indeed the worst evil in the world that exists, right alongside the israeli government.

    But each and every church has them at the top. These people live and breathe apartheid, they count on you being dumbed down. They count on you being stupid like Ryan.

    Without that, the churches would rise up and throw out all these false zionist leaders right off the pulpit especially that sociopath Pat Robertson who is the new Hannibal.

    Robertson is the Arthur Balfour of this age and it shows. If anything else these sick, depraved fanatical people should be hounded out of office and arrested- sent back to Israel where they belong with Benjamin Netanyahu.

    However with them having a world union, a world zionist super center, and physical blackmail over so many positions of power…….It is very HARD to contemplate how their monstrous disaster will be stopped.

    But they are a minority……surrounded by an entire world fed up with Zionism….whatever scheme they eventually finish with, it will be short lived as there’s too many to fight them.

  157. This also ties in with Freemasonry and the other secret societies, orders, etc. The shared goal is to rebuild the Temple (where we get “Templar” from) of Solomon in Jerusalem and unite the three Abrahamic religions into the One World Religion. Anywhere you look, when researching the secret societies, mystery religions, etc, you find this same theme. Therefore, you can begin to see Israel as the focal point of the New World Order to which the Knights of Malta, Knights Templar etc all bow.

    However that doesn’t negate the power of the three main city states: Washington DC, City of London and the Vatican. The elites are all in this together, Jew and Gentile.

  158. William of the Southern Cross

    Hey pj and everyone, haha to Ryan what an ignorant wank. I have read about this three headed eagle in the old testament in the Apocrypha; apparently it is still in the Kuran, but christian religious leaders didn’t want it in the bible. It speaks of a fiery eagle sweeping the world rising from the sea;

    Then saw I a dream, and, behold, there came up from the sea an eagle, which had twelve feathered wings, and three heads.
    2 Esdras 11:2 And I saw, and, behold, she spread her wings over all the earth, and all the winds of the air blew on her, and were gathered together.

    ARE THESE WORDS A WARNING TO THE CONTROLLING BRAINWASHING THAT RELIGION PROVIDE? Were they editted out of the new testament bible because they expose a truth of man? I prefer Aesop’s fables; you learn more from than a figure (fictional or non-fictional ) named Jesus.
    _________________________

    I am currently writing a fantasy novel for adolescents which is a journey of self and mind.

    I have done a lot of research on the areas of power, politics, freemasons, egypt mysteries, religion and history etc.

    I was just curious to know if you know of any connections to such illuminated organisations; the bohemians, 33 degree scottish rite’s motto is ORDO OB CHAO? is it not? which means Order by Chaos = the UN….

    do “the great secrets” have anything to do with the pineal gland, tachion energy and the soul?

    I will not join any religion but I am gaining an interest in the O.T.O and the golden dawn. As I am doubting that the only thing close to spirituality is simply LSD.

    cheers
    Will

  159. William of the Southern Cross

    Etymologically, the derivation of Apocrypha is very simple, being from the Greek apokryphos, hidden, and corresponding to the neuter plural of the adjective. The use of the singular, “Apocryphon”, is both legitimate and convenient, when referring to a single work. When we would attempt to seize the literary sense attaching to the word, the task is not so easy. It has been employed in various ways by early patristic writers, who have sometimes entirely lost sight of the etymology. Thus it has the connotation “uncanonical” with some of them. St. Jerome evidently applied the term to all quasi-scriptural books which in his estimation lay outside the canon of the Bible, and the Protestant Reformers, following Jerome’s catalogue of Old Testament Scriptures — one which was at once erroneous and singular among the Fathers of the Church — applied the title Apocrypha to the excess of the Catholic canon of the Old Testament over that of the Jews. Naturally, Catholics refuse to admit such a denomination, and we employ “deuterocanonical” to designate this literature, which non-Catholics conventionally and improperly know as the “Apocrypha”. (See CANON OF THE OLD TESTAMENT.)

    you can read the apocrypha here:

    http://sacred-texts.com/bib/apo/es2.htm

  160. I must applaud this forum!!!! It’s funny, I feel that we are more illumined than some of the illuminati LMAO. People like Ryan in the lower degrees think they know what their brotherhood is really about. I have been researching these subjects for some time and decided to do what Bill Cooper told all of us to do. Create our own form of media. I am always looking for guests and I am even looking to expand our show to more nights. Meaning that, if there are like minded people who want to wake up the sheeple than you can have your own radio time. Awesome thread and like the Freemasons say LOL do the Great Work!!!
    Nick

  161. The real Great Work is for the People of this planet to roll up their sleeves, kick the Illuminati’s ass, bring justice down upon them and completely destroy their agenda so that the future generations at least can live in some semblance of peace, prosperity and harmony. Are we up to it? One can only hope.

  162. William of the Southern Cross

    hey pj, what are your thoughts on the apocrypha, afterlife and the connection of religion using fear to dominate human thinking also reincarnation, vortex energy and the pineal gland

  163. I am not that familiar with the apocrypha (I assume you mean something like the Gospel of Thomas.) But I think to study religious texts of any religion, whether orthodox or heterodox, exoteric or esoteric, it is best to keep your head screwed on straight and a) identify whatever truth you can from them and b) identify what is wrong or deceptive or contradictory in them using your instincts and objective analysis thus understanding how these teachings have been used to control the minds of the general population throughout history. In short, to separate the true from the false, maintaining skepticism and independent thought. I recognize certain value in studying such texts for the sake of overall knowledge of history, and any useful knowledge contained in them.

    I personally don’t know for sure what happens after death, but I know all kinds of people claim to know definitively. How they can know definitively is a mystery in itself. But I do think near death experiences seem to point to a non-material form that separates from the body upon death. How else could so many people report seeing themselves dying on the operating table from above? There is enough evidence for me to believe that non-material or “quantum” phenomena do exist such as telepathy which indicates non-locality and therefore that consciousness does transcend the physical brain. So it seems reasonable to speculate that something does persist after the body dies. What happens to it at that point, I don’t know for sure.

    Personally, it makes more sense to me that such a spirit would enter a new body, than to think that it goes on and on forever in a static state in some perpetual place such as “Hell” or “Heaven” for all eternity. This being because everything in the universe is in a constant condition of change and flux. This is just as true about us in life. Our minds and bodies are in a constant flow of growth, change, decay and finally going out of this state into another state, like ice changing to water, and vapor states and back again. So I am saying reincarnation makes the most sense to me. That doesn’t mean I subscribe to an “eastern” religion, only that this seems to be the most reasonable explanation to me about death. And plenty of others in the West have believed in some form of reincarnation since ancient times as well.

    From what I have seen, religion in just about every form of it encourages fear, though in varying intensities. Islam and Christianity compete for the most fear-inducing, followed by Buddhism which teaches about a number of both hot and cold hells to fear. There are even big elaborate Boschian Buddhist displays in paintings and statuary showing people in various states of agony due to their bad karma. But in my view, most of our suffering is going to be experienced right here on Earth, in the flesh. Hell on Earth is the lot of many people in the world, and if the NWO proceeds according to plan, then a lot more people will experience such hell in future.

    Hinduism has quite a bit of fear in it too though you are supposed to transcend it and see the world as an illusion, maya. Judaism, at least as it is practiced today, generally doesn’t talk much about the devil, hell and so forth. I think as a practicing Jew, you are more fearful of breaking the Commandments and the Levitical and kosher laws than anything else, hence you see how strict they can be in Israel about the Sabbath day. At any rate, Jews are controlled as much as anyone else, though there is less fire-and-brimstone than the other two Abrahamic faiths. Then there is the newly created Global Warming religion which is entirely based on fear and building up hysteria to the point that people might even consider killing themselves to “save the Earth”. Fear makes people do whatever the hell the elites want them to do. Trauma-based mind-control. That is the oldest trick in the book. And homo-sapiens are the most studied species on the planet, so the Illuminati know how to impose this control because they have passed this knowledge down and perfected it down through the ages in their secret orders.

    I don’t go in much for New Agey things like vortex energy, but I am sure that certain places on Earth do FEEL better than others for a variety of reasons and have naturally been regarded as “sacred” or special places. I do believe in “chi” energy because I have experienced it for myself. I don’t know much about the pineal gland, but I think you should just eat a balanced diet, exercise, get sufficient rest and free yourself of as much stress as possible to maintain normal, healthy glandular function. I don’t think people should be trying to manipulate various parts of the brain. Above all, just use it.

  164. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Life is about a mix of things stated above this post and much more. We have to take all the information given to us and form our own truth because we should only have the need to be in control of our own lives. It is the institutions around us that take that need of control and expand it to powers that they do not deserve. Giving us the screwed up and confusing world we all see today with dangers everywhere one looks. With that said we still have plenty of opportunity to make things better for ourselves as long as we can stay balanced with a mix of experiences given to us. We just have to find what fits best in your particular life.

    I can honestly say the Bible has taught me many lessons about life and some being very critical to survival. One of those lessons is to separate yourself from material wants/needs and depend on yourself, spirit and faith. That is something that can never be taken from a person no matter how hard one can try. If you loose something oh well, life is not over. I would say that the Abrahamic religions have that fact in common, and the only reason people kill each other over what they believe is because evil does a fantastic job at manipulating the mind. Which is FUCKED!

    Like you said above PJ this planet is filled with suffering which is why all people should hope there is a better life after this one. It is something to hope and dream for, not be scared of. Institutions do a great job at scaring and that is what is so sad to see, the things to be scared of is the real truth that they hide so well. They do not want to loose their power over the world so they make us scared of things that should not be deemed as scary. It plays in to the hands of what is truly bad because people feel they have to choose sides and that is why we see innocent people killing innocent people around the world. We can only hope that God is as forgiving as He says He is.

    It is the people that are lying to the masses and controlling the power for evil that should be scared. Not us “sheeple” but at the same time we need to get to the truth by fighting for it, even if it is not a good truth to know. Personally I think it is nothing to be scared of but ultimately it would scare most unknowing people. The media is illustrating “equality” everywhere we look to keep people thinking the world is getting better. Look at the slogan for the Olympic games, ” One World One Dream!” That is a joke, especially when it is posted in China, haha. But that is the controlling power that is going on right now, and it is good that this forum has a chance to see it. If it is “One World One Dream” in China then let me tell you I do not want to be a part of that oneness.

    It is the whole deception that is absolutely amazing and I can understand why people do not want to know the truth because it would just be easier to feel that everything is going better. Life is not that easy though and it is up to people like us to bring both arguments to the table. If all truths were equally portrayed like all the lies are in this world that would be good news. It is the fact that the truths are hidden so far behind the scenes that make things bad and evil in my eyes.

    Hopefully there will be a day when the world can all work together and form a more unified place but that cannot happen under these circumstances. There is no way we can form a worldly unit based on lies. If they would have just done things fair and equal from the beginning we would not need to have this discussion but obviously life will never be that easy. So it is up to us to stay sharp, out of trouble and keep working for truth. People deserve to know the truth no matter what it is. Simply put truths, beliefs combining together to form knowledge gives one life experiences good or bad. That is not up for me to decide.

  165. wowwwpeople –

    Suffering is a state of mind; the problem is that our minds have been bombarded with the corruption of man, instead of being well rounded people, civilisation tells us how to think, we lose our natural intuition.

    You think china has one world , one dream?? haha
    you are buying into your petty civilized thinking.
    China failed on their human rights! They used a fake girl who was pretty in a story of survival from the earthquakes; the real chick was fat and they used it as a political morale booster.

    the bus that blew up was most probably its own government ; taking away people’s freedom and rights.

    You quote the bible as an inspiration; please tell me there is a part of the bible that actually encourages a person to think intelligently, instead of acting superior; using fear to control.

  166. The message of the Bible is that “superior forces” are at work and that there is nothing for us to do but succumb and bow down. Either sell your soul to the Devil or surrender to an equally ruthless God. Those are the only choices laid out to us, false choices in a manipulative dialectic. But it is so compelling that most people buy into it because those who developed this system of mind-control understood human psychology and the uses of fear and the instinct for self-preservation. They are working it still in this “modern” 21st century. They are the Illumined Ones, royalty, bankers, knights and masons and they have humanity in their clutches.

  167. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Those people can have all the money they want and all the power one could ever imagine but if they do not have the right heart ultimately they are screwed. They will not live forever, no one will. That is the translation I get from the Bible. There is hope out there we just have to work extra hard to see it and hopefully one day achieve it.

    PJ you are right that God is ruthless but the fact is that he is after those who are defiling his name. Those people that are abusing their power in this world but they will not have it in the next. Little people like us can only try to work and gain truth but for the most part no one will ever know exactly the right way. This is why I believe that my God is the most forgiving entity in this Universe. That is the hope some one like myself has to hold on to because there are things going on in this world that do leave many people hopeless. Yet God is there for them no matter what and that person knows there is something better out there. But again God is a ruthless supremacy but you just better hope it is not aimed at you.

    What we can so is just share ideas and cross reference all the information and try to decipher through what we know. Protect ourselves from the evil manipulators and try to educate as many people in the process without being caught. Basically people like you and myself ultimately are secret agents. You can call us NEO from the Matrix or you can say I am Jason Bourne. Either way I have the same objective and that is to fight for what is right. Nothing more to it. Now all I need to do is work on my skills. haha… Those movies do have some truth mixed in them even though Hollywood is controlled by a very Jewish community. just keep workin for your truth people!

  168. I sincerely believe after years of examination that the Bible, in fact all religions, are there to manage and control the sheep. In the case of Christianity, this control is extreme, using the fear of Hell as a goad. That goad herds the sheep into a corner and forces them to believe that though they might try to do something to better their lives, ultimately, it is God who controls the show and it is only God who will bring justice, freedom, hope, salvation etc. Consequently, man has suffered for thousands of years the tyranny of the Illuminati bastards while holding out for the day when God, that is Jesus, comes down from the clouds to save the day. And generation after generation goes along with this myth, believing that He is coming soon, just wait, just wait. Oh, but he takes his sweet time about it don’t he?

    That is because he isn’t coming and is a creation of the Illuminati, designed to disempower – no, to cut your balls off so that you will simply wait around for this Jesus to save you like the idiot that you are (‘you’ being Christians).

    It is a lie that has held true freedom in check for 2000 years and it has worked like a dream for the Illuminati. No wonder they all profess it exoterically and publicaly to keep the sheep believing it while esoterically they practice something quite different. The system works so why change it is their feeling.

    But just watch because there is a change coming. And it is to carefully replace the old religion that they gave us with a new global religion now that their international political system is being set up.

  169. Dear :
    WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    You need to throw this idea of “HOPE” away. In greek mythology “Hope” was one of the pangs of distress. It was the last thing left in Pandora’s Box if you recall.
    When you engage in hoping for things…you end up doing nothing to accomplish anything/goals.

    You leave everything up to chance/fate, while never proceeding forward. That’s what the NWO sells you day in and day out…”KEEP HOPE ALIVE!” is the slogan my friend.

    The NWO wants you to keep “Hoping” for things to get better so they can keep stealing, killing, plundering ec…

    Has it ever occurred to you that God has left Mankind to his own vices and that it is up to man to struggle for excellence.

    Stop looking for the easyway out because there isn’t. But when you “Hope” you shirk your responsiblities by doing/accomplishing nothing. So, do yourself a favor and be a doer not a dreamer.

  170. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Well see the thing is I am actually quite successful and my dreams have all come true for the most part. I still would like to work for Nike one day because that is a childhood dream I once had but every other “dream/goal” I had has been accomplished buddy. Obviously I need to make new goals and add some but to say I have completed 90% of my “dreams” is pretty good. That goes from graduating high school to getting a four year scholarship to play a sport, travel Europe, study abroad and also play professionally which is still going on. With that said I think I have done a lot in my time. I have added many more to my list so I will just have to wait and see where life takes me. Cause you know what… Everything is all chance. Obviously I make the decision if I want to kiss my super fine girlfriend but the fact on how we met is all by chance. I had control over that situation. My hope is thriving and that is really all I can say cause I can;t for that fact on anyone.

    All I know is my life, and if you want to try and call me out on what I believe. I will just have to show you what is UP. Nothing more to it. I can only hope that you are living a good life and your house is not being auctioned by the bank or anything terrible like that. People that are stuck in a mess like that can only HOPE for something better.

    While doing all that I have DONE/DID, I passed up chances to work for a start up company that could potentially make me richer then your wildest dreams. However there are more important things then money and I hope people understand that. There is one thing you do not want to idol and that is money. Why you ask me? Cause it is the mark of the devil “$$$.” Think about it triple six is right there in the dollar signs. Those dollar signs people love so much too. The USD has evil written all over it and people can’t get enough of it. Just watch out for that mark of the devil because that is coming soon, just like everything else in the Revelations prophecy.

    BoBoo you are right God has left us a people, He left the Jews many times in the past because they did not want to follow. However he still cares about those who are struggling to find him. He knows we are screwed as a race, there is no way around that. We just a a bunch of fuck ups, no matter who you are. But there is a list of who has fucked up the most to the least and those that have done terrible things in the name of God knowingly, good luck to them!

    PJ you can be a cynic all you want, people need that in their lives. Just keep doing what you do but all at the same time you still got to be open to everything. There is no reason to shut the door on anything accept evil shit out there. It is up to you to find know that evil and stay away from it but who I am kidding we all got a little devil inside us, RIGHT…

    Oh yeah and about the 3rd Temple thing yall were discussing earlier on this wall. That already has been built. It is the trinity inside everyone, whether you want to believe it or not. The third Temple was built a long time ago when Anno Domini began. Now this all just hypothetical but think about it. Just another discussion topic. I am just waiting to see what happens next to tell you the truth.

    You want to know what else I hope for BoBoo? The next disaster, where is it going to hit what is it going to affect, what is it??? I don’t think that is a good thing to hope for right, but does that make me a fucked up person. We are stuck in a paradigm where people die and live, “shit happens”. It is not in my control, I can only HOPE that I live another day and see my family and friends do the same. But there is a bigger game out there that cannot be controlled and that is “fate.” I sure will HOPE that I am not driving over the Golden Gate Bridge when the “big one” hits California. If I am for whatever reason I better hope that epicenter is not near the bay area because if it is, my day might end on that bridge. So I will keep my hope alive that I am at the right place at the right time and hope my family and friends are too. Those NWO fucks just use HOPE in the wrong context, underneath all the bullshit.

    So my hope has done nothing but good things for me. Don’t get me wrong now, many bad things have happened to me also but nothing terrible to limit me from living a great life.

    BoBoo you just had so many funny things to say to me, I am smiling as I respond to them. Please bring more pessimism to my table, I really appreciate it. I am a big time “DOER” and “DREAMER,” why be one or the other. You know what I say, “MAKE IT HAPPEN.” If you did not know either, goals they can also be dreams. Aim for the sky because if you fall you land on the clouds.

    I am young and I am still learning that is without a doubt. Stay true to yourself and always try to be a better person. Fuck those losers that try to hold you down. If you have a good heart nothing will ever keep you down. Everyone is different and everyone will take in information differently. You know what I say to all that, GET YOURS and I’m going to GET MINES.

    stay up!

  171. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Yo PJ,

    What is the deal with this 2012 prophecy stuff I have been looking in to. Seems like some major changes will be taking place in the coming years. What do you have to say to all that? I am going to look around your blog for this topic but try to uncover some information for me because you are a solid digger.

  172. It is very simple really. First realize that the New Age Movement comes directly out of Freemasonry, as does the Mafia and the Religions.

    2ndly, realize that the Illuminati uses crisis-creation as springboards toward the next “giant leap forward”. IE Problem Reaction Solution. Through engineered crisis: artifical scarcity, food shortages, economic collapse, wars, global warming, terror, obesity, plagues, “natural” disasters, pestilence, drug crime etc (all controlled and set up by the elite), they get social engineering programs pushed through. And the biggest program of all is global government.

    All their efforts are ultimately to “make the world one” that is to set up a global dictatorship, yet enlist the masses to sign onto the concept and build their own prison and dig their own graves, with smiles on their faces. They must get the masses to “learn to love their servitude” because a direct, confrontational approach to total domination is both too crude and also doesn’t work very well because then it becomes clear to the commoners that they are under attack and so they rebel and revolt. But keep convincing them that earth-shaking changes and crises are coming, and in order to weather the storm, we will all need to radically change and transform society. So of course, the sheep quickly fall into line and start doing whatever the government tells them to do, even if is against their own interests (which it always is), even if it is completely silly and ridiculous and unproven.

    Anyway, to try to make a long story short, the elite, through the New Age Movement have floated this 2012 catastrophe/convergence meme/scenario among the public for years and will step it up over the next few years. They want great masses of people to get ready for something, and what they are not telling the masses is that that incredible something is simply global government, followed by global religion, global army, etc etc. Of course, this is to be preceded by one catastrophe after another such that “through a series of shocks, whether real or promulgated, the people will comply with anything we tell them and they will be psychologically incapable of resisting” (paraphrasing the elite social engineers like Kissinger, Brzezinski, Russell, Bloomfield and others).

    We may also see amazing high-tech special effects along the lines of Project Bluebeam, with Iron Mountain-like UFO invasions with a fake “disclosure” and holographic religious figures floating in the sky. All this is building up to 2012, which is just the target date for global government. But to further confuse the issue, they float the New Age “prophecies” out there so that people believe it’s all part of a type of evolution that is inevitable. Same with mainstream religion that “predicts” an apocalypse and a New Age, really a thousand year Reich, again “inevitable”, can’t be stopped because it’s all part of “God’s Plan. What it really means is, it is all part of the Illuminati’s Plan, ie the elite bloodliners who do trace their lines back to the ancient world. This is all nothing more than a very old plan towards a final goal of total and absolute control over the world.

    By 2010, they want to have the three major units or Trilateral Blocs set up: Asia, Americas, Europe (including Africa and the Middle East). Over the next two years, you will see a flurry of treaties being put forward that unify these three basic building blocs of world government. The goal is 2012 and they are working frantically toward it, not for our good, but for the consolidated centralized power of an Scientific Occult Technocratic Dictatorship of the Illuminati elite. That is what 2012 is really about.

  173. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary

    the definition of “HOPE”…

    “To long for with expectation of or belief in fulfillment:
    something or someone on which hopes are centered
    To expect with desire”

    This was the context my comments were leaning toward.
    To “Hope” without works leads to complacisance and lethargy.
    To dream and not work toward those dreams/goals is dubious.

    The bottom line is “HOPE” in the eyes of the Illuminati is for sale. And this belief in God stuff is part of it. They use it to control the populace, to keep us docile.
    (If you’re going to believe in God do it from a spritual aspect not from a religious standpoint.)

    Moreover, to paraphrase (and I’m not nessessarily imply this to you)… stop thinking Jesus is coming back to save the planet from Satan, while doing nothing to save it our selves. This is what I’m driving @.

    I’m glad you’re a successful individual, but you have to admit your success had nothing to do with hope…however, it had everything to do with work.

    Have a salubrious day my friend.

  174. I simply explain and report on the truth, the reality of what is happening. It is up to others to think it through and either submit to despair or to have hope for a better world.

    But it is truly useless to just hope for hope’s sake when you don’t have a clue about the war that is being waged on your body, mind, and soul. That is a fool’s hope. It’s like someone laying in bed, pulling the covers over their head in a burning house, hoping that they don’t get burned. Such a person has no concept about what fire is and how destructive is. It is a childish attitude.

    I do have hope that people will wake up and if enough of us do before it’s too late, then yes, we can avert the NWO and stop it eventually. But even after this critical mass occurs, it will still take probably a couple generations to really slow this freight train down and derail it.

    I also have a whole category on Resistance against this system of total tyranny, and numerous links to activists and truth-seekers out there. You can read in my About message that all this is just to inform others about this war against humanity, that it is real, it is happening and that if we are conscious, we will want to pick our battles and work to improve the situation. I am definitely not about sowing the seeds of pessimism and despair, but I am about countering airy-fairy notions about the world.

    This is war unfortunately, so it is time to defend life so that human things like beauty, truth, love can continue to exist well into the future, rather than racing forward into a sci-fi horror dystopia that the elite have planned for us. Once the elite get control over our human genetics and over our brains, then it’s game over and that day is fast approaching.

    Before too long, I promise to write up a piece on positive actions that we can take, but again, it is essential to first get the big picture and understand the NWO, the psychopathic elite who is behind it (ahem, see above) and what their motives are. That is the first step and that is why I spend so much time and energy on it.

  175. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    It is good to put all pieces of information out there, whether it be good or bad. Someone like myself needs to be hit in the face with negative because I totally divert my attention from things of that nature. More recently I have been able to put everything together and use to benefit my knowledge because that is what it comes down to. A person being able to understand their world or point of view. Continue to do what you do PJ it is something that is needed without a doubt.

    As I research more about everything focusing on this 2012 date and planet X facts it is hard to not think about the what-ifs. The fact is there are things in this world that can not be explained or controlled. Some of these uncontrollable aspects are the global warming, intensification of weather patterns, increased seismic activity. There are a lot a natural characteristics that are being stirred up by something more out there. The elite wish they had that kind of power to so but there are things that they have no control over. Things like asteroids potentially hitting the earth or volcanoes exploding. Maybe they do have that kind of control and we will find out soon, but yet it is inevitable of rough times coming ahead. It is exciting and scary all at the same time that what-if some crazy shit starts to go down. As a Generation X kid I have seen a lot already in my life time and I think it is not even the hard shit. There is a chance that a lot more devastation is going to hit this planet.

    In the mean time we have this NWO government trying to take affect but what does that mean. Does it mean they will rule the world, to me it seems that they already do it is just not mainstream knowledge yet. The fact is that when it does turn mainstream that is the day the one world government will be in affect. I do not think so… That one world government is already in place and they are just fine tuning the details. So is there going to be a revolution around the world? maybe… WWIII is on its’ way? could be… Everything good comes in 3 right… When ever the 3rd worldly war does come we might as well hope for that better day to come and come sooner than later. I believe the 3rd is coming soon because those bank systems are in big problems right now and whenever they are in trouble usually that means a big war is on the way. However this one is going to be played a little different I think. It will be one that no longer will be played like a board game.

    There is so much information out in this world that it can make a person crazy because what is the truth from the false. All we can work with is the facts and the actualities. If this world does end up going through another pole shift people better HOPE that they are in the right place at the right time. A pole shit would cause insurmountable damage to our existing ecosystem everywhere! When and where will the next volcanoes explode, earthquake hit, tsunami crash, flood take place, tornado terrorize, category 5 hurricane be? This is all stuff that can not be controlled and for a young man like myself I thought I have seen a lot of record breaking weather patterns but like I said earlier I think there is more to come.

    It will be interesting to see how the NWO handles all this because when shit really starts to go down like it ultimately can there will be absolute chaos. There is something about order through chaos, haha, let me see it.

    If the Bible is an outline for the future than I already know what is coming. I just need to hope that I am in good enough terms with the high One that I do not suffer too much. RIGHT… I mean if the elites are taking the Bible as a blueprint of what is to come then there is going to be wild shit coming to a city near you. It i those elites that are in trouble too, that is what I do not understand . If they have any knowledge about the book they follow the ones doing the misleading are the people who are screwed to the fullest.

    What is next though? Any predictions on what is going to happen by the end of this year…

  176. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    BoBoo,

    you are totally right about believing in God from a spiritual stand point. That is where we are at in today’s world. Religion is so corrupt and so diluted that the only true way to get to God is through one’s mind, body and soul. I can only learn about other religions and see how they were designed to lead people, because now the practices are so messed up that all evil is connected to all good. Nothing is pure anymore, the only thing that can be some what pure has to come from within, not externally.

    The thing is Illuminati try to have people believe in their form of God but the truth is over half the population in the world could careless about the God side of things. Which is why they use other methods to control the populace, but God is something that can not be denied, only ignored. Yet the fact is those elite are being controlled too, and it is not something good controlling them. They might think they are the power in control but what it comes down to is that they are not smart enough to do everything on their own. Making the point that the these rich elitist and power thirsty fuck-faces have to get help from everyone else to make things work in their favor. No one has the ultimate power to control the whole world on their own but their is a power behind it all that is grouping this sick headed people to the goal of corruption and evil.

    I recently read in a book that best movie is not when there is a right and a wrong. The absolutely best movies are when their are two rights but one might not be the best action. That is kind of the world we live in cause we have these pro-zionists/worldly elitist fucks that think they are doing good for God by making evil happen. Seems to be a great movie plot to me. Work with me here. You got an old and a new testament both dealing with the same concept. One God one way of life! You have a group of people still going with the old ways and a bunch of other different people accepting the new ways. Who is right??? Obviously if you step outside the box you can figure out that control and killing for a reason is not the humane way of doing business for anyone, especially someone pure and holy like the God we know today. The people that are in the box do not see that because they have all the money and power and no one can tell them shit. So be it!!! Let life keep filming and we will see who is right at the end of the movie.

    From the early civilizations of the sumerians to the worldly population we get today, there is one thing that holds true. Higher power. Now obviously everything in written records has been translated so much that the modern day scientist or theologian can only HOPE that there is still some truth in it all. They pass it down to someone like myself and I can only have faith/hope that I am living my life is some what of a righteous way. It is all a gamble though because what-if I am not…
    There are facts that just have to hold true no matter what and that is where my faith comes in to play. The fact is that this is something that I can only learn and discover on my own by using skills to uncover information for myself. I can only HOPE that Jesus was sent to this world to help save us, and that He blessed us with his body. Yet the fact that Sun worship has come in to my realm of knowledge and all the connections between worshipping the “sun” is almost connected to Christianity. Now this is all new stuff for me but there is a reason why I am learning about all this. All it does is make things more complicated but I also do know that the Bible says finding your faith will not be an easy journey.

    I do know this though, without the sun we would not have bread because grain would not be able to grow and we would not have wine because grapes would not be able to flourish. So one does need to be thankful for the sun because it does give this planet life and that is 100% truth in my book.

    However I still have a lot of learning to do and I hope a lot of living as well. Only time can tell me how much of each I still have left. One thing I do know is that it is going to take a lot of persuasion and even force to change the minds of people from their current way of thinking no matter what that is. I really do not know what I am trying to say with all that but one thing I am waiting for is something drastic to come a long so people will all be affected and their eyes can open to see more than their life. See that there is a bigger picture out there and issued need to be addressed.

    One last thing BoBoo. My success had everything to do with HOPE, with some work mixed in there and a hit of luck here and there. Cause in order for me to work for something, I needed to have something to strive for. That something was stirred up by my dreams and my hope to be successful. To tell you the truth the less I have to work, the better. “Less is more” in my eyes and not much to it than that. To tell you the truth I have worked more this past year in trying to find my network of truth/reality than I had 22 years previous. Work is overrated, just make it happen however you need to, keeping it nice as can be. I’ll say it again. Keep hope alive we need it in life to have something to look forward to. I know this, I do not look forward to working! Work is necessary but not vital for success but can be very helpful, nonetheless. Just do what you gotta do to make it happen.

  177. Forget about 2012, pole shifts, Planet X, Global Warming, asteroids, disasters, UFOs and all the rest of it because it is all nothing but scare tactics and disinformation designed to distract you from the real problem (the NWO), the real enemy (the Illuminati elite).

    WWIII is coming, perhaps already here in a sense, but you need to recognize that the war is against humanity as a whole, not between nations. Sovereign nations with an independent will of their own are practically non-existent in this globalized world and that is how it is intended to be. The Illuminati already control most, if not all, world leaders who are merely playing their part in staged dialectical scenarios towards the Grand Synthesis of Global Government. How else can you get such a global system without cooperation from all the players? Impossible. But the only way to accomplish this cooperation is to have all your world leaders on the same team, in the same interlocking system of brotherhoods.

    The Illuminati is not just one little club. It is a vast system of interlocking pyramids that that are carefully orchestrated toward what they call “The Great Work”.

    Our ‘great work’ is just the opposite of theirs. Ours is to expose the truth, work for freedom and work non-violently to overthrow this NWO tyranny as soon as possible, first in our own personal lives, and secondly in the political and social spheres. In my opinion, the keyboard is mightier than the gun, but I also recommend people consider arming themselves with weapons of their choosing as a matter of insurance in the future if needed. After all, that is supposedly what our own Constitution and the words of the Framers tells us to do.

    I also think you are on the right track concerning the spiritual. I will just say that I personally steer clear of religion and that includes the New Age religion. If you objectively study life and yourself, and systematically eliminate every illusion, you will find true spirituality because it is nothing but the truth that you discover for yourself.

  178. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    YES and truth is what we deserve but have been deprived of which a is a down right pity. Now causing us to work frantically to gain what we have been suppressed from the very beginning.

    There is one thing that one can not deny about the Bible and that is the prophecies that have been coming true over the recent generations alone. Obviously money is the “root of all evil.” This is why the all seeing pagan pyramidic eye is designed on the dollar and just today I noticed the symbol of 666 printed on the Euro coins. 2 sets 6 stars and 6 rods between the stars. The mark of the devil is money and soon it will be on the right hand and or the forehead, maybe even both. One can already say Money is at the right hand of every person with access to it.

    Even if the Illuminati and the elitist in this world are using the Bible as a guide to there evil future. There is a reason for that. Everything happens for a reason and a lot of stuff is unfolding. Yet there are things in the Bible that the elitist can not control and that is the fires, floods, earthquakes. Unless they have the ability to control these natural disasters as well then everything is being orchestrated to a fine point, according to Biblical prophecies. I think mother nature is something they would like to have control over but still have not mastered that power.

    With that said the Bible is too accurate to disregard. It is like an equation. If the prophecies are being proven correct whether it be natural or forced they are still being deemed as coming true. With those words in the Bible being proven correct then the rest of the Bible must be true as well. It is simple math in my eyes and things are too on point for anyone to discredit.

    I have bee told that “God has a plan.” This is all part of the plan, no matter how evil it may seem it is still that, planned. Evil in Satan has corrupted what we all would like to be good but it is plane fact that this world has evil running rampant around it and all us humans are just pons. Some richer than others and stronger than the next but nonetheless we are all still people. Yes some have sold out to the devil without a doubt, just look at the skull and bones shenanigans and other secret societal bullshit taking place. Pope and its cardinal followers being a main leader in that case. People have to read the Bible as a history book and from that come to their own faith. Religion is gone to hell in a hand basket without a doubt, making things all that more complicated.

    Yet when Christians start being persecuted which I hope never happens, then we will know the Jesus is the way in light. At that point that is all any believers will have. Jesus.

    However terrible things may read in the news or Bible there is one thing that is certain. God has a plan and it will be played out over time. We can only be lucky enough to witness such prophetic times. It is all about how one lives their life and nothing more. We can try to fight this NWO and revolt and what not but we will find out that things will play out the way they were intended to. Whether that means you are captured and put in a FEMA concentration camp.

    Also I would not rule out this 2012 all the way. Mayans were a very smart people and there have been other facts pointing to this time in the future also. What it means I do not know all the way, but watching these weather patterns turn out the way they are is quite interesting. Pole shifts have occurred in the past and who is to say it won’t happen again. What I do know is over the next 4 years there will be a lot more water to spread around the globe as those ice caps continue to melt. There will be an object in space to pass the earth very closely like Haley-bop comet did about a decade again. So there is still a lot to be played out until one can rule out this dark rift business.

    The fact is the government has said nothing about this stuff because they do not want to scare the public. If they were trying to use this as a scare tactic I would think over the next couple years we will start to hear more about this. If we do not than there is a reason for that, maybe they do not want to warn the majority because billions can die quicker through natural disaster.

    so much going on these days if you actually open your eyes to the information world. All i can really do right now is be thankful for my next meal. I try to talk to people around me about this shit and you would be surprised to know that they do not want to know. Now that is scary when people close their minds to the truth or a possible truth. That is today’s world I guess but we will see what happens next.

  179. What really matters is that you first believe in freedom and will do your utmost in life to defend both your own freedom and that of others.

    Secondly, that you understand there IS an NWO run by the elite psychopathic aristocratic families of this world and that it is their desire to set up a totalitarian world government to enslave the commoners.

    Thirdly, if we are going to get at the truth, we need to be objective as possible about it. Unfortunately, that means we need to be willing to take off our blinders and face the truth, no matter what it is. To start from a particular belief system and try to fit the truth into its limited parameters isn’t going to work. It will just build up an edifice on a crumbling foundation.

    I don’t care what your belief system is, if you do not do everything in your power to stop them, then you are wasting your life because this is a war and we are all under attack.

    But don’t listen to me. Just go to http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ and listen to a few of the talks and interviews there. You will eventually begin to understand that the NWO plan is thousands of years in the making and that they put all these religions out there to control you and make you submit to them. That is all religion is for, very simple.

  180. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    I understand religion is out there to control, I am not fighting that. My argument is that the Bible is credible because of all that is coming in to play right now over the millenniums. The fact is that people give religious leaders to much pull and allow for them to be controlled. It is too confusing for me at this time to explain it but I will have solid foundational evidence to prove my theories over time. At this point in time I can not be objective, I know too much that it is too late to be objective. I will try but in all actuality no one can be objective if they are “awake” to reality. It is impossible, maybe if we were in a lab conducting test we could be objective but this is the real world, with real ideas, lives, beliefs, etc…

    the fact of the matter is the NWO will take power one way or the other. I am just waiting to see more signs of this take over. Lisbon treaty is one to focus on and how this election turns out is another. Not to mention how the economy will crash and the outcome of that scenario.

    One thing I do know is that I will avoid the mark of the beast at all cost as long as I have control of my sovereignty. The Bible says beware of the mark on the right hand or the forehead. Those who take it will suffer from it. Those who do not take it, something else will happen. I want that something else. This is just one prophecy that will play out soon in this new era of information.

    One have to be aware of it first before you can avoid it though, just like everything else in the Bible. One has to be aware of what is coming or else it will smack them in the face. Plenty of stuff has smacked me in the face but I am hoping that the more I follow my faith the better off I will be in the long run. Because of the Bible I am not longer in the “dark.” It is as simple as that for myself and I know many others share my story.

    You say, “To start from a particular belief system and try to fit the truth into its limited parameters isn’t going to work. ” It will fail!

    It all depends on what your belief system is and what you base personal truth around. I know religion is corrupt so I will not base it on that, however I can base it on the word of God because that is something that has not been proven wrong. It takes a strong believer in faith to put full trust in God and I struggle with it daily. But if my faith in God and Jesus gets me killed than it proves scriptural prophecy right one more time.

    Yes we are all under attack and it if for the mind, body and soul. These evil fucks want everything, but where does the evil come from. Obviously it had to planted here from creation, and when that begin. When Lucifer was booted out of Heaven supposedly. Evil had to come from somewhere, it did not just create itself. So there is a war and there will always be one, very true. But if there is a war who is going to save you? A person can not save them self, that person needs help from an external force. Where does that come from? If there is evil in this world, what is the good? Where does good stem from? Again that is something that did no create itself.

    The fact that the NWO has been in working and scheming for thousands of years illuminates this story of good vs. evil. I am not doubting the fact about the evil forces in this world because I know they exist, I do not need to here from other people how bad the world is. I can figure that one out on my own, NOW… But it is listening to people come up with solutions to fix the problem that I am looking for, not people stating the problem repeatedly.

    To me a person’s faith seems to be the only way to a sound solution… Why? That is something that no one can take from you. It is something that can be tested and tried but never proved wrong at the purest form. It is us humans who make it impure.

    Yes religion will be the major point of this world collapsing to a one world order. There is a reason why religion is so powerful around the world. Yet that religion that will aspire will not be pure and the Bible has warned of that. People can only come to their own personal faith but we have to remember that there is only one God. How you get to that destination is up to only that individual and their heart/soul. Cause the devil is aiming to grab that soul he has wanted it ever since we were all born. Now I would not know any of this if it were not for the Bible so I have to give it the respect it deserves, nothing more to it.

    My whole deal here is to get ideas about what other people are thinking and reflect. Argue cause that is only natural in discussion and to move forward in a positive direction.

    No matter what though the USA is fucked. I feel sorry about the future dilemmas and conflict that await our nation. We need to act fast and not argue over religion and faith because in the long run all that does is distract us from the truth that they are hiding so well. So fighting is what I will continue to do, but to be perfectly honest with you. The weapon of my choosing is the word of GOD! Using information to mobilize my efforts. What is your weapon of choosing?

  181. My weapons are my own body-mind-soul along with an internet connection and a good stock of firearms for insurance. I don’t need any other weapons. I don’t want any other weapons. I am already heavily engaged in fighting these rotten bastards moreso than most. Nobody is going to come down out of the clouds to stop the NWO. It is up to us entirely.

    I recommend you check out that website I gave you and listen to his stuff. It might help you.

  182. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    where can I pick up some guns for personal protection? My Mother is even looking in to buying one. Just trying to exercise on my 2nd Amendment rights before it is taken away, however I want black market sales.

  183. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    You don’t have to answer that gun question actually. If I want to acquire a gun I will be able to figure it out another way but I don’t think violence will be my answer. I will have to see what plays out over the next years. It would only be used for protection but do not answer me on that gun question.

    What I do know is that our government has figured out how to control weather patterns and earthquakes. So it is the world we live in today, they have the power to make the moves of there one world organization. We will see how they orchestrate it and we will have to adjust our game plan to their moves. We got a real life “Illuminati risk” board game going on right now.

  184. Violence is rarely the answer, especially when people are not aware of who the real enemy of humanity is. Violent revolution, 9 times out of 10 is going to just lead to a new form of tyranny. Nepal is the perfect example of that going from a feudal fascist state to a Maoist state. In fact, the Maoist state will be even more tyrannical.

    The main reason to be armed is to protect one’s family and property from attack by either common criminals or a tyrannical government. It is better to shoot it out with the government than to submit to being rounded up into concentration camps or lined up before execution pits as has happened all over the world throughout the 20th century and is still happening in places like Burma, North Korea, China and soon in Nepal I fear.

    A government that launched preemptive wars, tortures human beings in secret prisons, surveils its own citizens and systematically attempts to strip them of their rights is a galloping tyranny, no matter what the controlled prostitute media propaganda says. So people do have the right to defend themselves from such evil whenever it is deemed by them to be necessary. If they are coming to steal your children and put them into foster homes to be raped, then there is no doubt in my mind what I would do to them.

  185. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Yeah I will definitely be looking in to buying weaponry but I do not have a family to protect or property that I truly care about accept my mind, body and soul. Just a young patriot trying to get some real answers that hold solid truth.

  186. Please follow these two links :

    this the Vatican’s order (SMOM):
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMOM

    this the AMERICAN’s order (OJSM):
    http://www.knightshospitallers.org/masters.htm

    YES, there are more than one orders that claim the heritage from the REAL.

    Probably the real successor is SMOM, the OJSM is a “reinvented one”, it’s born in USA, it’s not a religious order but a kind of masonic order.

    Look the simbol you take in your page : it’s the OJSM’s symbol.

    The Pope hasn’t any “power” on OJSM, you speak about things you don’t know.

    Bye

  187. You guys are crazy…. get a life and turn off your computers!

    Outside there is air. Go and breath it in to try and stimulate your brain to more just causes of humanity and giving

    http://www.malteser.de/61.Malteser_International/en/61.05.Projects/projects.htm

    $ 1 Billion usd donated per year in Humanitarian aid relief!

    THANK GOD FOR THE ORDER OF MALTA!

  188. And there are billions and trillions more that they don’t talk about, the vast wealth that the elite Illuminazi aristocrats control.

    So yes, listen to the Illuminazis: turn off your computers, stop reading about Freemasonry, the occult, the higher initiatory orders of “chivalry”, etc, don’t educate yourselves about the New World Order, shut up, join the Catholic Church and Obey.

    LOL!

  189. PJwalker911, your information is heard by many… Be weary, it’s clear many methods are being employed to evoke certain emotions in hopes of making you and others appear fanatical thus less credible (for the lack of a better word). As more and more individuals are moving from apathy and ignorance to one who is invested in self-awareness and understanding the depth of external forces quietly operating against them, there will be a difficult transition period. A great deal of information is being uncovered daily and credible whistleblowers are coming forward from ALL levels and areas of the VERY REAL industrial complexes prompting greater attempts by disinformationists to SHIFT, mix, and ultimately confuse. It IS incredibly apparent that with the quality & quantity of irrefutable evidence being made available through various channels comes the necessity to further employ their sophisticated shell games. Interestingly, someone mentioned Eric Phelps…regardless of his protestant orientation if you consider Svali’s testimony and a portion of Zagami’s, what Phelps argues is very accurate. In addition, Phelps extended an OPEN invitation of public debate to ANY member of SOJ or those whom they control which has yet to be answered. Obviously, unless each of us is an insider we are challenged in deriving a truth through exhaustive research with second hand information. Consider this link I’ve included and continue to utilize your faculties of logic, reasoning, and most importantly discernment.

  190. This is war. The New World Order is a war, declared by the Illuminati, against humanity against goodness and truth, carried out by their psychopathic minions all over the world. Anyone who dares to expose it is attacked. Anyone who steps onto the battlefield has to expect to get shot at. And it isn’t limited to the internet. They will take it to the next level when they feel threatened. So it is serious business. It isn’t a game.

    The internet is the main battlefield of ideas in the world today. This blog is frankly one of the most pivotal in that fight because I am going directly for the jugular. You won’t see me messing around with New Age crap, reptilians, 2012, Planet X etc. You also will not see me cloaking myself in racial, religious or political uniforms. I am representing the best of American ideals specifically, and humanity in general, that’s it. A fanatic is someone who promotes a particular race, religion or political party against all others. You won’t see me doing that, so I’m not a fanatic. I am just responding appropriately to a deadly threat in defense of humanity.

    The only ideas I represent are freedom and truth. When someone shows me that they are on the opposite side of the fence, and they just come here to try to ridicule me, then I simply call them on it with real passion and emotion. I’m not going to be nice to them.

    On the other hand, if someone merely disagrees with some of the things I say, that’s not a problem unless they continue to up the ante. I disagree with a lot of what Eric Phelps says, but that doesn’t mean I see him as an enemy. That just means he’s wrong about some things. I think he is sincerely trying to make sense of the NWO and has done a lot of good work on it. So I am not here attacking people for merely disagreeing. When they demonstrate to me that they are defending one or another aspect of the NWO system, then I let them know how I feel about it.

    I know I’m not perfect, but I’m one of the good guys. I’m sane. I’m knowledgeable. I’m for real. My enemies are the fake corrupt scum that I hate with a passion, the evil dirtbags who support, implement and defend the New World Order nightmare. I make no apologies for hating them and showing it plainly.

    To my enemies: Every time you creeps come here to try to ridicule me for exposing the Illuminati (because you have no other defense), you just show the world what lowlife pieces of crap you are. The more you do it, the more obvious it is who you are and who you represent. So go ahead and expose yourselves. I really don’t give a shit.

  191. Well said

  192. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    We need to start a convention!

    GO LEHMAN BROTHERS!!!

  193. PJwalker911

    Hey, I would like your personal opinion on the Myron C. Fagan “Illuminati CFR Records?”

    I feel Fagan was a disinfo racist hack and his historical account of events and timelines were totally off…In other words he egregiously fabricated many historical events to fit his ideological story.

    Fagan claimed (without providing any evidence) that Adam Weishaupt was working for the Rothschilds and personally I don’t see how that was possible. The Rothschilds didn’t become the financial juggernaut they are until after the Napoleonic Wars, which post dates the 1776 origin date of the Illuminati by nearly 40 years. Moreover, Weishaupt went to work with Ernest II of the house of Saxe-Gotha subsequent to being expelled from the Masonic lodge in Munich Bavaria around 1787…. if I remember correctly.

    I found dozens of distortions, fact modifications, and just flat out lies, plus Fagan didn’t provide any shread of proof to back up his wild accusations. At one point Fagan states (I’m paraphrasing) that the Illuminati want to divide the races then later on he contradicts himself by stating that they want to create a mongrelized interbred slave race, which led me to contemplating how dubiously foolish Fagan and his followers seem to be.

    So, my question is, which is it…do they want to divide or intergrate. Fagan can’t seem to make up his everloving myopically challenged mind.

    The question we as concerned truth seekers should be asking ourselves is…are the so-called leaders of the patriot movement any better than the Illuminati…or worse…tyrannically speaking of course.

    Convoluted rhetoric such as this is what helps the Illuminati in their quest to usurp this nation and the world from “We the People”.

    The People (We the Nations of the World) arent going to band together in common cause when hate is being propagated in such an iniquitous manner, and I have to say that I’m ashamed of some of the individuals in the patriot movement who cling to Fagan’s divisive words and calling it gospel.

    Let me know what you think?

  194. This is the most rediculous website I have ever seen !!

    Comical actually, I am a proud Knights Templar and also a part of a PMC in Iraq. !!

    KT has nothing to do with Government !!!

    Sometimes I wish we did have the power our Ancient Bretherin had, we would have wiped out all you Ragheads years ago !!!!

  195. Hey Jockstrap,

    This government is of, by and for the elites who are all members of KT, KC, SMOM, Freemasonry, Skull and Bones, Rosicrucians, etc etc. That’s why the majority of people feel they are disenfranchised and powerless to have any effect whatsoever on what the government does. It is completely beyond their reach, dominated by the the secret societies and being steered into the New World Order system of global dictatorship against the people’s wishes. So on that point you are clearly full of shit.

    Secondly, “Ragheads” reveals what you really think of people of a different religion, skin color or political persuasion for that matter. Do you also use similar terms like “gook” and “nigger”? Like all the psychopathic minions of the elite, you reveal yourself for what you are: a racist genocidal maniac.

    Isn’t 2 million dead Iraqis and a trail of devastation, torture and other abuses reaching around the world enough for you bastards? No, the truth is you like to dominate, kill and destroy, all under the cover of “democracy”, and “charity”. You will not be allowed to continue this deception. It is being exposed and people are waking up to it.

    Like I always say, you elitist lowlifes can’t help revealing what you are when you come here to dish your dirt.

    And let me tell you something Jockstrap: if and when you Fascist shitheads come for the real patriots, you are going to get your asses stomped into the dirt because we are completely sick of you and we aren’t going to put up with you anymore. A lot of us can’t wait for the day in fact.

    We are mad as hell and we aren’t gonna take it anymore.

    Got it?

  196. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Yo jock,

    For one I bet you are a wannabe jock, just a fake. By any means you have the right to say whatever you want to right now on this blog but why think that you are any different from the next person that writes on this site?

    you say, “Sometimes I wish we did have the power our Ancient Bretherin had, we would have wiped out all you Ragheads years ago !!!!”

    Come on now you think you are on the special exemption list to be saved from the concentration camp cell that has your name on it. Unless you are part of Blackwater USA or Dick Cheney’s 14th cousin your ass is going to be on that train right next to your neighbor headed to the nearest concentration location because you are in too much debt to pay it back and they will just take your life for payment.

    My buddy PJ gets a little fired up when idiots like yourself try to call us enlightened people “ragheads,” which shows the absolute ignorance someone like yourself has. If you could support your accusations with sound legitimate information you might have the grounds to say what you want but the fact is you really have no idea what is going on around you. I hope you come to the understanding that all we want is the truth from our leaders and nothing more. Is that too hard to ask for? Is truthful sentiment from the people who have control over our daily lives?

    We are not here to attack anyone, we just want things to be balanced out because this era is extremely lopsided. Jock do you want your freedom stripped from you or your rights taken from your grasp? Is that the life that you are looking forward to… Do you like being able to do what you want wit your life? These are all very important questions you should ask yourself. Then do some research and figure out why a blog like this is vital for your survival.

    If you want a fascist regime controlling your every move then good luck to you. But PJ is right the so called “ragheads” we are, actually are the true patriots. Look up the definition of patriot and understand it is talking about people like PJ trying to fight through all the bullshit given to the average person and make sense of it all. We are fighting for our country because if you like it or not it is being taken away from us one legislative bill at a time.

    JOCK don’t be a simpleton. The best thing you can do for yourself is some research from many different sources. This is for anyone else who thinks close-mindedly. One has to open their eyes first before they can see the truth. Let me help you out a little, this world is deceiving and highly manipulative. Understand the matrix then maybe what comes out of your mind can be respected. I really don’t know much but what I do know is that there are many people like you that give us Americans a bad reputation in this world. It really is not worth being dipshit, HONESTLY it is not.

  197. interesting developments. it’s amusing how much attention your blog has received pj by those claiming affiliation to one “order” or another. i’m sure you’ve determined by now, that several are not who they claim to be.

  198. Care to elaborate?

    I only know that I am attacked, ridiculed and vilified constantly for telling the truth. I have to pretty much take their supposed memberships at face value and go from there. Sometimes is it obvious that intel spooks and other evil minions of one form or another are playing games, waging psychological warfare, but usually I just take them either as indignant elitist minions or as deranged fanatics like Ryan seemed to be. All I really know for sure is that they hate truth and love the New World Order.

  199. pj, no need for me to elaborate you clearly demonstrate your awareness. it’s clear your focus is predominately on exposing the depth and expansiveness of SMOM, KT, and the very un-spiritual practices many have succumb to. this is a crucial step however, may i ask your long range goal(s) once you’ve provided your self with a strong foundation? your attentive to the destructive forces waged against you and us all by unscrupulous wretches but, are you also considering the necessary internal prepatory work to develop yourself towards your higher being? understandable, the usual order of things is to discover & know the world around ones self , our independents from & position in it, and then the inner world.

  200. PJwalker911

    I’d like your opinion on the Myron C Fagan “CFR Illuminati Records” I posted the question up above and was hoping for you opinion.

    Thanks.

  201. The spiritual path is unique to each individual. It is not a one-size-fits-all proposition. And it is not a thing that you do once and then finish up with it. It is your life itself that goes on and on. Therefore, I would say there is no final goal to reach, just to keep maturing and opening to truth. If you have the right attitude, it doesn’t matter how “advanced” you become. What matters most is sincerity.

  202. you have my respect and i will continue to follow your blog closely.

  203. As far as Myron Fagan goes, honestly it has been years since I listened to some of his recordings. I do have to say that he seems to be in line with the John Birch Society, maybe was a member, I’m not sure. The JBS view has always been that Communism and the CFR were the enemy and that all you had to do was root out the communist elements from government and society and then all would be well.

    But then, the problem seems to me that they ignore the fascist elements while seeming to push the majority of blame on the Jews, liberals etc. This right wing WACL type of approach has been fed by various SMOM Knights, Masons even some members of the CFR itself. I also know that the elite have funded both Fascist and Communist movements, most obviously so during WWII. Quigley revealed that they, the elite, work with all factions which means they control all factions. They give us our heroes who then narrowly define who the enemy is, thereby always leading us astray.

    There are all kinds of conspiracies out there, left wing, right wing, religious and otherwise. What we have to be careful about is staying away from one-sided theories and try to maintain the biggest picture possible. Jesuits, Zionists, Royalty, Freemasons, Bankers, Fascists, Communists, Theocracies, Terrorists etc are all bad for freedom, for society and only foment more chaos, oppression, bloodshed and misery in the world.

    The elite, the real Illuminati who are of the royal bloodlines who claim to have superior genes, of any nation or race, are the real problem for humanity. Not all these -isms which are just tools for them to use in dividing and conquering humanity.

    Mayer Amschel Rothschild was involved with Grand Duke Baron Von Dalberg, Karl Theodor, a key member of the Order. He acted as Dalberg’s court banker. He was also involved with Prince Karl of Hessen-Kasse, another key member.

    These people were involved in an amalagmation of various occult orders in reality, not just one of two. This process is ongoing fermentation, both before and after the Bavarian Illuminati. These combined Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, Jewish Cabala, Hermeticism, Frankism etc, etc. Nothing was left out. So there very definitely were currents of everything from Jesuitical teachings to Cabala and to be honest it all goes back to the mysteries of ancient Babylon, Egypt, Greece etc.

    The thing to remember is that the elite, the bluebloods, the high-born etc all see themselves as great builders, constantly modifying society, engineering humanity, through one revolution after another, using the Hegelian dialectic, to create a perfected utopia, which for the rest of humanity is actually a dystopia.

    In the end, they will have “peace” when the rest of us are pacified, through drugs, toxins, brainwashing, brainchips, sterilization and depopulation.

    You have to remember too that in order to control the opposition it is important to lead it, to offer heroes for every faction to follow. So in the patriot movement we have the John Birch Society and Ron Paul who are basically one and same. They are the controlled opposition. They want you to maintain a certain narrow concept of what the New World Order is about.

    To me, this is not about Christianity versus Godless Communism, but it is about the Elite, the real Illuminati, versus the common people. That is the way it should be phrased. They gave us the major religions to control us. Now they are in the process of giving us a new updated Earth religion. The Christian religion made people into sheep, willing to “give unto Caesar”. The new religion will make them into a bunch of cyborg zombies willing to hurl themselves into the volcano on command. It’s worse, but not a lot different in terms of the control over the human psychology.

    Will Christians be eliminated? Yes along with other believers according to Albert Pike. They they will die believing it was God’s Will as everything is already written in stone, in the Bible that is. But I believe the Bible is one of the Illuminati’s handbooks, containing many esoteric secrets that they use to control people with. It should therefore not surprise people to know that the Bible is one of the “Three Lights” of Freemasonry along with the Compass and the Square.

    The question is, do people want to think for themselves, or do they want to go along with narrowly defined world-views that only get them into trouble? I can’t force people to think for themselves, but I can hope that they will. Once we can escape from our mental prisons, we can have a good chance at escaping top-down control on to true freedom and harmony.

    Otherwise, it is going to be hell for us all.

  204. PJwalker911

    It seems to me that we’ve reached an impasse in the truth movement. Knowbody trusts each other. And its become difficult to discern whose the enemy/disinfo agent….whether its individuals like Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Ralph Nader, Amy Goodman, Phil Donahue, Michael Moore or Jim Marrs….no one can truly be sure about anything, which means unity may indeed be an impossiblity.
    Of course like you stated you can’t place your trust in just anyone, but then the question remains…who can you trust and if you can’t trust anyone then what recourse do we truly have. We as individuals have to learn to trust each other @ some point or all is lost.

    We can research until we are blue in the face and we can spread the word, but in the end will people eventually accuse us of being disinfo agents working for the NWO…which brings us back to square-one…Who do we trust?

    All I know is that the deeper I go down the rabbit hole the less optimistic I am about change.
    The bottom line is and this is my opinion and you don’t have to agree with me, but if mankind doesn’t put aside his differences (racism, religion, ethnicities, and social status) then everything is lost and the Globalist win the “Holy Grail” aka the planet earth and continues to allocate mankind into slavery.

    I think “thinking for yourself” is only part of the equation. Love, Honesty, Respect and the Truth are what really counts, which means not selling out for any reason.

    I think this is the ultimate litmus test.
    Can mankind pass it with flying colors and mature before it’s too late before the Globalist destroy our planet.
    Only time will tell.

    Wake Up America!!!!
    Thanks for reading.

  205. I understand that people want to DO something, instead of just cogitating, but as you say, without some kind of unity and commonality, not much can be done other than covering one’s own ass.

    But I also believe that if people don’t understand the real problems, the real issues and who is pulling the puppet strings, or if they are only half-awake to a limited, biased view of reality, then anything that people DO is going to be misguided and fruitless at best. And if people keep operating out of this masonic matrix, they will get nothing but more of the same, only worse and worse as time goes on.

    I am plenty willing to trust other people so long as they are sincerely trying to do what is right and humble enough to be open to truth. I think there are many people like this, but who have sat by watching the world go by, not knowing what exactly they can do. I, in fact, am in that category myself except that I have tried to at least educate myself and others about the New World Order and the real Illuminati.

    I have suggested that playing the Washington political game is not the answer, never was the answer and won’t be the answer in future because it is a rigged game, and it is THEIR game.

    For that reason, Americans at least have no choice but to consider creating a new system of government for themselves. One that is not perverted and covertly controlled by secret societies, aristocrats, clerics, corporations and other manipulative elements as ours is. But I don’t have my head in the clouds either. The likelihood of that happening is slim and none at this point. So I guess we are just going to have to go through the hell that the elites have planned for us and try to survive it and overcome it.

    For that reason, I suggest people just do everything in their power to protect themselves, to stop taking the drugs and inoculations, eat natural foods, get out of the cities, try to get off the grid on all levels, buy some guns, grow their own food if possible, try to collect some assets and be as independent as possible, also helping others to do the same.

    Maybe people can start to form little like-minded communities that can stand up to the NWO themselves. Whatever new system that forms, it has to grow organically instead of being planned out by social engineers.

    Life is just about living, thinking and speaking freely, loving and raising a family, finding some work that one enjoys and having a little fun while you do it. I don’t think life needs to be so complicated, but it is complicated by the fact that the elites are doing everything in their power to overcome us with chaos and confusion and the gradual confiscation of our freedoms. This must stop. It must be stopped as soon as possible. That is the one thing we have to agree on. And we have to agree that we are not going to take it anymore, that we are not going to kowtow to any man or woman, any institution out there. We are going to live our lives as free people and to hell with anyone who tries to stop us.

  206. this is the question… provided that one has at least a cursory awareness of the forces we have been discussing, what can and must we do if we are to not simply live but, to grow regardless of that which opposes our healthy existence ? my endeavor first and foremost know self, destroy and create anew, continually SHARPEN the mental and the physical faculties (esp. defenses), strengthen discernment, and love.

    strengthen your ties with those who are like-minded this is of utmost importance.

    as far as whom you can trust….trust the self…

    as far as walking people up, put the WORDS* out clearly, this is the only thing one can do, if they are ready they will respond this is the natural order. it is futile to expend the mental energy in hopes of striking the chords of the masses… to assist in awaking one individual is a blessing.

    Those whom have waged these destructive idiotic wars against us are not men, human, nor gods.. they are the weak, filled with fear, unbalanced , and ignorant. they seem to have forgotten that ALL beings possess A potential, THE spark, which only takes the CORRECT FREQUENCY-TONE (S) to initiate and fully manifest.

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  208. PJwalker911

    The Associated Press:
    “John McCain and Barack Obama spoke at the 63rd annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner, a charity event organized by the Catholic Archdiocese of New York for the benefit of needy children. An estimated $4 million was raised.”

    It’s sad that people can’t figure out that this election, and all US national elections are a fraud.
    I saw highlights of this event on CNN and Obama and McCain seem like buddies to me, plus the Vatican has its hands in the cookie jar.
    What do you think?

  209. Blessed by Cardinal Egan who is one of the biggest Illuminati members in the US. Absolutely, from end to end, we are just being entertained with bread and circus by the elite, entertained literally to death. So that is the thing to remember, that the s-election drama congame is purely for entertainment purposes and has nothing to do at all with reality. You may have also noticed the stupid “roast” they put on a few days ago as well. Anyone who belives we live in a free country is completely dumbed down, really on the level of a moron.

  210. bull shit we aint know nazis and i dont like diss shit you doin on here makin us have a bad name get diss shit off

  211. You ain’t too smart either. I recommend getting yourself an education. That should fix your ignorance problem, and maybe even your personality along with it.

  212. Levelheadedone

    As a Freemason and member of two knightly orders I will not stand by as you try and besmirch the things I hold dear. You have no clue what you’re talking about. You are probably some half-baked teenager with too much time on your hands. The Freemasons do not kowtow to the whims of the Pope or the Vatican hierarchy. The York Rite of Freemasonry has an Order known as the Order of Malta; it is, however, not part of the original Sovereign Military Order of Malta. We (Freemasons and their affiliated organizations) donate money to charities and disaster victims.

    Freemasonry allows those of all religions (save – immoral religions) to become members. Catholics MAY become members from the standpoint of Freemasonry; however, they may not become members from the standpoint of the Pope and the Vatican Council. The Church has and does excommunicate its members who join a lodge of Freemasons and refuse to demit.

    Check your facts, grow up, get a job, and have a nice day.

  213. Another elitist masonic freak desperately spewing masonic bullshit out his ass, probably sent as an errand boy to try to shake things up.

    Catholics do become masons and vice versa. In fact, at the top, there is absolutely no difference between the Protest-ant orders and the Catholic orders. They blend right together as far as their loyalties go, which is to the royal aristocracy who run all the main lodges and orders, and to the “mysteries” having to do with systems like Kabbalah and such entities as Isis.

    The Vatican is, like Freemasonry, a two-faced organization, saying one thing and doing quite another. One good evidence of this is in the revelation of the The Processus Contra Templarios… wherein publicly, the Knights Templar were officially excommunicated for heresy, while secretly, Pope Clement V had exonerated them and of course, they continued to flourish, especially in Scotland and today their symbols dominate the center of the banking industry in the City of London. And so it goes down through the centuries where secrets are hidden from public view for 500, 600, 700 years. They give the public one set of “truths” and rules, while behind the scenes a whole different set of rules apply. A parallel reality in fact exists, hidden from public view and it is controlled by this Vatican/Masonic Banking and Royalty cabal.

    Anyway, it is obvious to many that Freemasonry arose out of Rosicrucianism on one hand with a link to both hermeticism and Protestantism, and out of the Knights Templar and other Catholic orders, linking them to the Vatican. The Masons even claim to have descended from the “builders” of the cathedrals, ie the Catholic cathedrals. So there is a very deep and entangled connection between Freemasonry and Catholicism, but since Masons love to confuse the public (and even their own Blue Lodge members), they make a big fuss when their con-games are exposed. This is because they do not want the common people to know that, not only are they the operative builders, but that they are the speculative builders who are in fact, social engineers, literally shaping society in accordance to a plan which is always kept out of the public domain. You see, they can’t let the kiddies know what they are up to, so shhh, it’s a secret. Unfortunately for you, it is hidden in plain sight for those with eyes to see. We call it, the New World Order. So a lot of us know the Game is rigged by the elite orders, secret societies, foundations, think-tanks, NGOs etc.

    Anyone who says different is a liar and since most Masons are liars, your “testimony” isn’t worth a dime.

    That’s why people in the UK have been wising up, demanding that judges and cops reveal their secret society affiliations since they know that the “brothers” are duty bound to defend each other, particularly within their own lodge. It is very much a mutual back-scratching society of total corruption, privilege and elitism. Unfortunately, Americans are not so hip to it. Yet.

    Your loyalties lie with, as I said, the elite, not the people of your country, or of this world in general. All sealed with blood oaths. That is true for every brother and you know it. You are by nature of your affiliations, traitors.

    Your charity work is nothing but a front, to cover for your two-faced Janus nature. From whence do evils like organized crime (Cosa Nostra and street gangs), Communism (leaders always Masons), Fascism (P2, royal Masons inherently fascist) and the various cults (JW and LDS), racist and terrorist groups (KKK, P2, Al-qaeda ‘assassins’) come? They arise from Masonry, that fountain of “brotherly love”. Anyone can look this up if they just do a little research for a few years, though the Masons are constantly looking to debunk and create clouds of disinformation around these embarrassing topics.

    But all these things are exposed to the light of day among 5300 articles on this blog. It is for the benefit of my fellow man, to aid him in his awakening from thousands of years of sleep and serfdom, slavery to an elite who mask their activities behind a veil of secrecy. That is what all this information is here for and of course you Masons and Knights absolutely hate what I am doing and will do everything in your power to try to stop me and others like me. You are nothing more than an elite mafia hiding behind charity. A bunch of liars, con-artists and crooks. In short, you are a cancer eating away at humanity’s heart. I admit, you are winning the battle, but hopefully we will win the war someday.

    So tell us some more lies, brother. It is quite entertaining.

  214. Great blog Mr. PJ,

    The world is run by three city states, Londons Inner city, The District of Columbia and The Vatican. The Queen is still at the center of power, with vast crown properties around the world and hoards of wealth, the Vatican is the spiritual ‘illusionist’ arm which also hoards great wealth and America is its corporate, MSM, monetary enslavement and military arm.
    The NWO has been ruling for quite some time, only Americans haven’t tasted its tyranny and injustice yet with only a glimpse on 9/11.
    I plead with people to be aware of these groups noted by PJ , not to believe just be aware.
    Know everything believe in nothing.

  215. Right on all accounts except I would add: believe and trust in yourself, and find at least a few others you can believe in and trust.

    The point being that all these religions, political cults, masonic orders, the media, education, government, financial powers, royalty, corporations etc all want to remove individuality, instinct, decency, common sense, knowledge, normalcy, stability, truth, spirit, love and all the rest from our lives. That is to soften us up, dumb us down and make us malleable to control us for their agendas.

    I have noticed, especially since 9/11, that these power-mad beasts have only increased their power and presence in the world and strut around the world-stage more arrogantly and pompously than ever before in all history. That goes double for the higher orders who are gradually revealing themselves to the public as they take up more and more control. Eventually, it is believed by some that they will officially announce their supremacy and expect the common people to bow down to them as gods. I do believe this among is their ultimate aims.

  216. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    I truly hope these assholes one day expect us to bow down to them as gods. Oh if I ever take witness to a day like. I would be curious to know how many people would actually bow down to such power. it’s a scary thought

  217. People have bowed down to royalty, priests, popes, gurus, conquerers, pharaohs, caesars, sultans and dictators for thousands of years. That kind of went out of fashion for awhile, but now it is coming back out into the open. Look at how many people still go gaga for royalty, politicians and celebrities. People are desperate to connect with something or someone supposedly greater than themselves. That is their weakness and it is exploited to the full by the Illuminati.

    The elite cause the problems, get the expected reactions and then offer the “solutions” posing as our saviors. Order out of Chaos works every time.

  218. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    “…and everyone- every race, color and creed- fell to their knees and worshipped the gold statue…”

    They just bow down to “idols.”

  219. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    You just hit the nail right on the head. There are 3 types of people……..

    1: Leaders
    2:Followers
    3:Free thinkers like us

    and that’s it.
    If you care to comment I’d like to hear more about what you and PJwalker911 think about this considering the presidential election is tomorrow.

  220. You can also say:

    1. Shepherds (or wolves in sheep’s clothing)
    2. Sheep
    3. Humans (with brains to think)

    It appears to me that Barack Obilderberger isn’t even a US citizen – probably born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro, tutored by commies in Hawaii and elsewhere – which would obviously disqualify him, but of course the entire might of the US government can’t figure that out because they don’t want the public to know that Dick Cheney’s cousin is soon to be our new pathological CFR puppet leader.

    Considerable evidence still points to candidate’s birth in Kenya
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79900

    In other words, Americans are getting screwed once and again and once again, though they are just getting used, they think they are being made love to.

  221. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    Obama is just another popular idol that people around the world have come to be attached too. I used to be one of those “obamamaniacs” when I first heard about him but after I was introduced to this other realm of ideas and way of life I have become a lot more objective to everyday life especially with politicians. I can only hope that this man will be a positive leader if elected in to the white house but the closer he gets to being in office the scary it looks for our country and personal freedoms.

    Pj what you have to say about Obama is quite interesting. I have heard about him not being able to come up with some type of birth certificate which is very strange. The scenario that you depicted of his past life could very well be accurate. One of his main advisers is big on Marxism which would not surprise me that there is so much talk of his economic policies that will “spread the wealth around.”

    We are definitely going to get a change, a change in office. We had a taste of some changes with bush and now we will see more of the same type of changes. It will just be under the new guy. Like I said earlier though I can only hope that he will be a positive leader for you country and help us move in the right direction that does not impose on our freedoms/ constitutional rights.

  222. You are sounding more sober and hip to the scene since you started learning more about the NWO, but it seems you are clinging to that last bit of false hope that just maybe Obama won’t be quite as bad as they all say, and just maybe he won’t harm our freedoms quite as much as Bush did.

    Well, think of it this way: if this country were composed of say only 100 families and only one of those families was allowed to rule, then you wouldn’t like that because it would seem like a very unfair system. But that’s just it. We ARE only ruled by one family and that is the inbred, interrelated extended family of the Illuminati, otherwise known as royalty, the elite, the aristocracy, etc and Obama is part of this fraternity as are most of the presidents that went before him. He is related to six presidents and Dick Cheney. He is a member of the elite. Why do you think a virtual unknown can just skyrocket to rock-star status virtually overnight, like Bill Clinton did? Clinton, is another of these blue bloods whose real origins are shrouded in mystery. It is very likely that he is related to the Rockefellers which explains why he was picked, like Obama, by the Bilderberg.

    So there is no way that things are going to change in a way that is conducive to our freedoms. Quite the opposite. “Change” just means more of the same program, but a new phase of it. First of all, he is not going to get rid of the Patriot Act or Homeland Security. He is only going to expand on these edifices. He plans to set up a massive civilian security force that sounds like it will be set up on the Stasi system. In other words, great masses of people will be working for the State, all of them watching each other’s every move, informing on their neighbors through a massive bureacracy. He is just going to help push the surveillance society system along closer to the 1984/Brave New World nightmare vision.

    And he is going to be just as much of a war monger as Bush was. He will step up the war in Afghanistan, invade Pakistan and probably bomb Iran, despite the fact that the US is now funding their nuclear program through Russia. And that’s just the beginning. He will probably also unleash regular Army on the American population domestically. Bush has it all set up for him ready to go for martial law.

    There is a great deal more I could tell you, but you just have to research it for yourself.

    We live in a totally false reality some call “the matrix” and that is just what it is. Everything they tell you on the news is a fabrication, spin or just a blatant lie. It is just crap they feed us in order to control us. The network news workers are literally working for the Enemy. Sometimes they are forced to tell the truth, but they always have a clever little spin on it to get people to accept whatever is going on.

    Point being, there is nothing positive about Obama or any other candidate including the third party candidates. Ron Paul was a sham and another scam as far as I am concerned. We will never “get back” something that was never intended to be controlled by the general public in the first place. It is all part of this masonic matrix dreamworld people are living in. It isn’t real.

    To stave off hopelessness, our only hope is some kind of secessionist movement that breaks away on all levels from the District of Columbia city state, thus by refusing to recognize them as our rightful government, their backs will be broken. That is the only way out. Voting never worked and it never will work.

  223. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    What you are saying about Obama makes clear sense. I understand events/actions are “imminent” I just would like to see the government help the people out before I die. Your outline is completely transparent and it almost makes too much sense.

    I am very anxious to see if he does hold some of his promises to the people, like making steps for energy independence and universal healthcare for the people. Stuff like that really doesn’t matter when you look at the bigger picture but it will be interesting to see if he holds true to his promises. If he does than I will have to say he did bring about CHANGE in that matter, but the other stuff will be traded in return. It is kind of a messed up situation if you really about it, but I totally see where you are going with profile of the next CEO of the USA

    The fact that our constitutional rights will continually be violated is not going to change. I can see more of that taking place step by step and then BAM, something happens and our lives are changed forever in a bad way. Knowingly… The political scene is something that does need modification because the people need to be able to pick from something different then the lesser of two evils.

    It is just going to be a tough battle for us people trying to keep hold on the truth. People just want to be ignorant and think one guy can save the day, how they will all be so disappointed when they figure out that the “crisis” we saw this last month was just the beginning of the end for their life savings. Not to mention the heat picking up internationally with Russia and other countries about fed up with our International policy. Things are about to get real wild very quick here in the next year.

  224. You got that right WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people.
    The American people just put the creators of Al’ Qaida in office. Zbigniew Brzezinski who along with David Rockefeller founded the Trilateral Commission, and it was Brzezinski the Trilateral Commission, and the Carter administration that trained and funded Al’ Qaida during the Afghan wars in 1978. Al’ Qaida and the Taliban were known as the Mujahadeen back then.
    Brzezinski (who is the Henry Kissinger of the Left) is Obama’s foreign advisor and trust me he and Rockefeller will be calling all the shots from behind the scenes.
    Why do you think Obama keeps yapping about stepping up the war effort in Afghanistan and is talking about invading Pakistan. He’s reiterating Brzezinski’s talking points.
    Obama is the puppet, while Brzezinski is the puppeter. And if you don’t believe me check it out for yourself.
    Everthing I’m saying is 100% fact. These Bastards are Cold War mongers and contrary to popular belief the Cold War never ended. It’s still on that’s why Putin attacked Georgia.
    And trust me there is deeper stuff going on here, but I’ll save it for another time because I have to hit the sack.
    Nonetheless, don’t get your hopes up about Barack Obama because you’ll be sadly disappointed. He’s just another New World Order Shill and a sell out!

  225. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    agreed… However the obama puppeteer is being stringed by someone else from an even higher position. I guess that is where the whole higher order bullshit and secret society collective think tanks come in to play. Probably being strategically planned from the headquarters in the waters of the Mediterranean on the island of Malta. Now this is where we need the change. My hope is that Obama will put in end to that nonsense but I know that is a long shot at this point. But I will hold on to that superman power comic book character of the next Us prez, until he proves me wrong.

    Oh shit Obama just made his first pick of his chief of staff and he just let me down. This guy emanuel’s past sounds more shady then Obama’s life story. My HOPE is lost…

    I have done some research on Brzezinski and our International policy is looking like we are about to piss off a lot more people in the long run. who’s next to on the list of advisors. He’e about to pick one of Bin Laden’s brothers next. give me a break bama

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  228. PJwalker911
    I have a question for you?
    I was thinking about purchasing a copy of John Coleman’s “Committee of 300″ but before I do what do you know about it?
    I find it kind of peculiar that he’s the only one bringing up the subject and I can’t seem to find any other information on them anywhere on line, and how come most conspiracy theorist don’t mention them?
    Not once has individuals such as Alex Jones, Jim Marrs, or even disinfo shills like David Icke mentioned them in passing.
    I’ve known about this Committee for a long time, however, I was somewhat skeptical of their existence. As a matter of fact I’m not sure if Coleman is a reliable source.
    The only one whose touched upon the subject thus far is Alan Watt.
    I think these Olympians (aka) the Committee of 300 (aka) the Masonic 360° needs to be exposed.
    Your thoughts…
    Thanks.

    P.S.
    Should I purchase Coleman’s book?

  229. Bobo09,

    You can purchase it to give the man some income or you can read I think most of it here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_committee300.htm

    You can also get an overview of his research from this video (10 parts):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRth9k5U4V0

    I have to say he seems sincere in his pronouncements, but I have diverged over the years from this idea of “taking back the government” or of “restoring the republic” which are ideas he is supporting. I don’t know for sure, but I assume he is a Ron Paul supporter. Again, my research has shown me (though few agree) that Ron Paul is controlled opposition. It seems to me that a person can say all the right things, but in the end, if they don’t reveal the real solution to the problem, then those who seek true freedom will be neutralized so that it doesn’t matter how much they know about all these secret societies, the elite system etc. After all, isn’t the whole point of all this research to establish freedom for ourselves and maintain it? And if the “solution” one provides is unworkable (as I believe the currently prevailing one is), then everything is for nothing because it is doomed to fail. I speak of the idea that you can just march on Washington and take it back, when in fact, I do not believe it was ever “ours” to begin with. Therefore, I see as the only solution being the simplest and most final is to simply stop recognizing it as “our” government. to completely secede from it and treat it as a foreign entity, a cancerous tumor or better a deadly virus that must be ejected and done away with. So in my view the only real solution is secession, just as it is the only solution for countries in the EU. If they want real freedom from the NWO, they must eject it from their lands and carry on as sovereign nation states. That is absolutely the only way out of the NWO.

    So, even though people like John Coleman make a lot of sense, I feel that if he carries on with the Ron Paul style of “solution” he is just controlled opposition, whether he knows it or not. But definitely read his books because there is a lot of good info there. I am not so sure about some things such as the term “Olympians”. It is hard to corroborate a lot of things he says because he claims inside sources. So with that, you have to just set some things aside I guess and learn what you can from the rest. On Alan Watt’s show of Sep 26, 2008 show he told a caller that he knew of at least one “360 degree Olympian”. The caller asked him to name this person and he said that he could, but he wouldn’t. Odd…Why won’t he name this person? After all, don’t we need to know the Enemy? If I knew the person, I would certainly have put the name out there. But then I don’t even have a way to corroborate whether there are even 360 degrees to Masonry either. I do know there are at least 90 degrees to the rite of Memphis and Misraim, but that is as far as I have been able to verify.

    What I like about Coleman is that he goes after all the culprits from the big Zionists like the Rothschilds, to the Venetian Black Nobility (another harder one to confirm, but you can dig into it), Queen Elizardbeth, and on through to the Order of St. John, Freemasonry, the Jesuits et al. So in some ways, I would say he is giving a fair Big Picture of the problem, but again, I don’t agree with the solution. I also don’t agree with the prevailing belief that the creation of the centralized federal government by Christian Freemasons was a great thing. I believe the anti-federalists were right to resist it, but being as they were mostly commoners, unlike the Masonic aristocrats of the day, they had to mask their identities out of fear for their lives from this new form of tyranny that was replacing the old one under King George.

    That’s the way I see it anyway.

  230. Thanks I’m going to order it.
    Anyway, I heard that episode of Alan Watt’s show and I also found it strange that he wouldn’t mention the name of the Olympian Freemason on the air, but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and just chalk it up to fear of ending up like William Cooper.

    Insofar as Ron Paul goes…I would have given him more credit if he ran under the independent ticket instead of a status quo Republican.
    Now, whether or not Paul is a Freemason stresses the point of the credibility of individuals such as Alex Jones and Anthony J. Hilder for supporting him.
    If Paul is a Mason do they (Jones, Hilder and other leaders) know it?…and if they do what does that make them?
    I think what Hilder and the rest bring to the table is vital, but at the same time are they no more than controlled oppositions like Michael Moore. It’s alot to think about and swallow. I hope their not because I do respect what they are trying to do even though I think they could further with it.

  231. I can’t say definitely that Jones is controlled opposition, but I am much more sure about RP. And considering that Jones has all the intellectual resources available to make the same determination, and yet does not, makes him suspect in my humble opinion. He also has some seedy connections to people like Buchanan who is definitely a Bohemian Grove CIA Mockingbird Knight of Malta. Connections mean a lot despite rhetoric. There are many other things that people have pointed out about Jones which you can find all over the place if you look around. I have my own list, but am saving it until I have more info that turns me one way or the other. RP by the way, could have run independent but made a deal with the Republican Devils and agreed not to. He however failed to mention this little bit of trivia to his supporters. I will give you the reference if desired. RP is not necessarily technically a Mason, but his wife is and his father was. His daughters were also Rainbow girls and he has attended many meetings. He is deeply involved with both Masons and Knights of Malta, so if it walks like a duck….even if it doesn’t exactly talk like a duck… well, you have to draw your own conclusions.

    By the way, my post “Ron Paul and Freemasonry” is the most heavily hit on this site, so there is a great deal of interest in this topic. Those who attacked me the most have been admitted Masons themselves and I have gone into how RP’s main bed of supporters come out of Freemasonry too. This ties into the Masonic founding of the American Union, that is, the US.

    Lastly, I don’t mean to diss Mr Watt. I respect him, but I realize nobody is perfect and I am not afraid to disagree with him or question his positions.

  232. I’ve investigated all of the accusations about Jones and he may well be a controlled opposition agent who divulges just enough of the truth to get people hooked… then leads them nowhere fast.
    I’ve also become skeptical about Hilder after his latest documentary “Skull & Bones the Catholic Connection.” Hilder had the opportunity to expose Pat Buchanan as a SMOM agent and he white washed it. It would have been better if he never featured and quoted Buchanan in the film at all.
    The problem with individuals such as Ron Paul is that they don’t offer any real viable solutions…like you said (I’m paraphrasing) “You can’t save a Republic that never really existed in the first place.”

    Jordan Maxwell has been getting a lot of flack from people on Youtube who are trying to debunk him…accusing him of being a Freemason and working for the NWO even though he exposes a plethora of points. It is true that Maxwell was involved in a credit card scam some time ago…so his credibility is in question. Plus his association with CBS (illuminati TV) and the Hollywood elite makes him suspect.

    The trouble I have with all of this is that most of us won’t go all the way and expose everything we possibly can without adding spin…in other words just deal with the truth and leave religious belief, space aliens, atlantis, and tarot cards (in reference to Michael Tsarion) out of the mix. In that respect Alan Watt is totally correct in denouncing these individuals.

    I do feel that Milton William Cooper tried to come to some semblance of the truth, which is why Bill Clinton refered to him as “the most dangerous man on the radio,” because Cooper asked people to do three things….
    1) Think
    2) Reason
    3) act upon it
    Not to say that he had the whole truth because he didn’t but he gathered enough to for everyone to ponder on, and I think he got 90% of it correct over the years. He was one of the few that tried to take it all the way and he was humble enough to admit when he was wrong (in reference to Project MJ-12 and extraterrestrials)

    Overall, it doesn’t pay to place any of these individuals on a pedestal that way you won’t be disappointed in the end.

  233. Absolutely right on all points BoBo. Shows you have independent reasoning, which is a way whereby more of us can come to similar conclusions independently of each other simply by investigating all the facts for ourselves – that is, objectively, and that requires that we set aside any bias or filters. Unfortunately, most people can’t do that because I suppose it is too scary for some and for others, they just don’t care enough about the truth due to mental dullness or some corruption or other. Again, it isn’t a matter of knowing all the answers (however nice that would be), but being willing to ask the right questions and to accept the truth once we have seen it for ourselves.

    Interesting exercise: type “Jordan Maxwell exposed” into Google and Youtube and see what you come up with. Or do that with any name and you find out quite a lot, all taken with a healthy dose of skepticism of course.

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  235. Individuals can make change. The best way to force change is money, stop buying from multinationals, buy local. The internet has all but eliminated rBGH (Monsanto) growth hormones from the dairy industry. Complaints to Wal-Mart forced Wal-Mart to notify the dairies they buy from to stop using rBGH or lose their business. every dairy has agreed to stop using it. Monsanto is begging for congressional protection. Bastards!

    Here is a sight listing their products http://www.ethicalinvesting.com/monsanto/products.shtml

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  236. researcher,

    Good points and I agree, except take it a step further to secession. State secession is the only way to really break up the ties between big government and big business and hence control the inflow and outflow of everything from food to culture.

  237. PJ,

    Absolutely, we’ve been choking on the NYC crap long enough. So many people believe that the NWO crap comes out of DC, it doesn’t, it comes straight from NYC/UN. But this time to succeed at secession we cannot accept money from the International Bankers like the South did in 1861. Our money, our rules. Remember the Rothschilds will jump at the chance to finance both sides of the war, bithches!

    I’ve just learned the new catch phrase being used by politicians for NWO is ‘Global Governance’.

    Latest research is on The Pilgrims.

    WAKE UP ‘MERICA!

    Keep up the good work.

  238. researcher,

    Yes, we must develop our own economic structures and currencies to block international banking interference and control. NYC is considered (for now) the “Capital of the World”. It is after all the hub, the pivot point of the UN, a huge Rockefeller project along with the CFR and the Trilateral, all funded into being by the same elites for global power. You are right, Washington just does whatever New York tells them to do, not the other way round.

    I just want to caution others about secession. While it does seem like the only way out of the NWO, I also believe the NWO would try to co-opt and guide secession movements, perhaps even encouraging them to a degree, in a Hegelian dialectic scenario. It could be that they do want to break up the US like they did with the fake collapse of the Soviet Union, only to reunify later into regions more agreeable to them and the NAU. So while secession is the best possible way to unplug from the NWO, it is also a precarious path that can easily be controlled toward a bigger agenda of global governance.

    Note that while Vermont has a robust secession movement, it is led by people who would both swap loyalty to Canada and demand a seat in the UN. They also have some wrong motives such as the Global Warming hoax, complaining that the US isn’t doing enough about it (even though it isn’t even a real problem, much less caused by humans).

    Something to think about.

  239. Global Warming. Anytime a politician such as Al Gore jumps on ANY agenda, you must ask yourself, why? What is the name of his company where the ECO guilty idiots can buy carbon credits? Send him $50.00 and he’ll plant a tree in Zimbabwe, my suggestion, go to a local nursery and buy 5 trees.

    I found a great article (which I have deleted, oops!) from Time/Life magazine written in 1976 about the upcoming ‘Ice Age’. The article discussed how the earth would go through a warming trend which would cause the slowing of the Gulf Stream. As the Gulf Stream slows the oceans begin to cool and wahlah we’re in an ice age.

    I was thinking today, how have we allowed this pollution of evil to permiate earth wide? Answer, they’re organized, and we’re not. And sadly we (citizens) will never be organized. We can’t because they are masters at smoke and mirrors. While we’re gazing in the mirror, they’re dreaming up new issues to smoke our brains and keep us confused. Example: Gay marriage, we argue, yes, or no, the evil laughs at our ignorance and who really gives a crap. Here’s another, ‘Global Warming’ a true hoax as you stated. There are so many issues we can’t even keep up with the issues. Issues to keep us arguing, and to smoke our small thinking, pathetic brains. Of course it pays when you can control every aspect of media.

    A little off subject but please read this article. Google Voices Opposition to Canadian Internet Regulation (control). http://www.teleclick.ca/2008/12/google-voices-opposition-to-canadian-internet-regulation/

    Here is something else to think about, secession is good, ammunition is better!

    Sorry for rambling on, awesome website

  240. Re: searcher,

    Ramble on all you want. Think out loud. Don’t be afraid to tell it exactly how you see it. This is one of the few places that deals with the real issues and where we can discuss real solutions, ideas that might actually work as opposed to debating who we’re going to vote for in 2012. Hahaha! Right….

    There is no doubt Global Warming is a hoax set up by the Club of Rome back in the 1970s to make humanity the enemy (of the elites), to be dumbed down, tagged, tracked, taxed to death and eventually culled down to a manageable quantity. The latest is that sea ice is back to 1979 levels after a slight drop due to natural warming. There is in fact, no appreciable warming whatsoever as attested to by residents of the Northern Hemisphere now in the midst of record-breaking cold and snow.

    The constant barrage of crises being thrown at us is just that, an enemy barrage of spy-chological firepower meant to demoralize, dehumanize, desensitize and weaken us, to soften us up for even greater series of shock tactics to bring in this NWO.

    I do believe that the very ideas of trying to make the federal government come to heel, to reform itself, to vote out the bad guys, to “take back the government”, is all nothing but more smoke and mirrors in an illusory labyrinth of uselessness and vain hope. People have been trying desperately to change the system for many many years to no avail because it is rigged in favor of the elite, because it is their system, not ours. Therefore, the only way out that I can see is to break away from it and form one’s own sovereign nation. I know the elite want to co-opt this process in order to break it up into regions that work better for their North American Union and integrate with the other Free Trade Areas, but they cannot control entire populations of people who are guiding their own destiny. That is the crux of the issue, and I will be working hard to wake people up to this idea of free and independent states existing in harmony side-by-side, each exercising their own right to be free, each valuing the rights of the others.

    In the meantime, over the next few years, no matter what we do or say, there will be upheavals like we have never seen before. We have to be prepared for the worst, dig in, store up food, water and ammo and hold our ground because the elite are going to be sending in the mercs to “restore order” during this period of chaos.

    Best of luck to all the real freedom-lovers out there.

  241. When was the last time they ‘actually’ counted the votes? Without any doubt Obama will serve two terms, maybe more. Has he produced an official birth certificate!

    Apathy and propaganda is our biggest enemy, generations of apathy, and propaganda. I have found the best way to evoke an emotion from people is to talk about our fiat money system. As a business man I have many opportunities to discuss money. A customer was recently complaining about the rate increase for shipping. I explained the increase is due to a corrupt system of banking. I told him, if you’ll pay me with real money ‘silver’ I’ll cut the price from $50.00 to $3.00. Then he wanted to know what I was talking about so I gave him the URL for this site and others. Here I said, take the blue pill.

    Many people I talk to are beginning to wake up, a few meetings are taking place in private homes. It’s websites like this that helps bring the message to the streets.

  242. Obama has not produced a legit birth certificate. The one he produced appears to be a forgery. He may serve two terms, but by the time he reaches his second, the US will be part of the NAU, a state within a superstate like the EU with rotating presidents.

    At the state and local levels, people can start using anything they want for exchange: barter, alternate currencies, metals, clam-shells whatever suits them. Decentralizing economics is the key to decentralizing power and diffusing the NWO monster.

    I’m afraid sites like this aren’t really enough. They are necessary for educational purposes, but we do need more action, a lot more. I know I personally need to do more, but we need to do more in an informed way, rather than wasting time and energy thinking about who to vote for in 2012, which is a total joke.

    To really bring it to the streets with leaflets, peaceful protests and to take petitions physically to the state legislatures and governors mansions, and to get involved with single issue activism, are more concrete steps that we all should do more of. At this point, state and local action seems to be the only way to move things in the right direction. I have absolutely no faith in the federal government, except to use, abuse, rob and enslave Americans, not to mention cull them off. Those are its only functions domestically. It certainly does nothing to serve national security. It does everything in direct opposition to that. Then, if you talk about the foreign policy, that is another entire ‘nother can of nasty worms.

  243. First, for fun, read Christopher Marlowe’s “The Jew of Malta”.

    Second, we need a new world order, but just about the opposite one that the elitists from CFR, maltese orders etc. are working for. It’s name is a New Bretton Woods.

    Third, i think John Coleman is a One World Government operative.
    Why?
    Because the defenders of the world empire have several tactics…

    First disinformation and sophistry.

    If that doesn’t help, tell a story of the all-powerful “Gods” of the Olympics, so people will feel impotent against these “mighty” rodents, ehh … lizards … sorry.
    In other words, paint a picture of these super elitists, who steer the world by their evil intent and always succeed (and you loose if you oppose them).
    Kind of like.. all the world – all top level politicians are part of this great conspiracy and what can i do about it.

    It just ain’t true.

    They are vulnerable. Just look at how Franklin D. Roosevelt nearly smashed them and their god forsaken empire.
    Or look at how Alan Greenspin has really screwed up this financial system, leaving the empire really vulnerable to the financial crash going on. And I assure you, they don’t control it. They are freaked about the crash and a possible FDR reflex from the US. And the Obama administration is not looking like doing the bidding of Soros and related handlers.

    And keep kicking those SMOM, Venerable order, Bailey Brandenburg and related orders. Basically there might be different organisations, but they are part of the same anti-christian anti-humanist cult. At least from the top.
    Basically a bestial Dionysos-Apollon / Babylonian-egyptian Isis cult.

    That’s where they get their hang for pederasty, as Henry Kissinger is a notorious example of.

    Another good example of this is Jeremy Bentham, a certified ‘british’ empire stooge, who’s body is mummified sitting on a chair with his stuffed head besides him at a british museum. Reports are that Bentham wrote a not widespread book called ‘In defence of pederasty’, in the same line as Bernard Mandeville’s call for ‘private vices, public benefit’.

    I saw at some time that Robert McNamara is a member of either the venerable order or SMOM. Do you have more on that?

  244. Knight of Pythias FDR was one of them. He took the gold from the people. He created a socialist system to make the people dependent on the Nanny State. He colluded with Churchill to force us into WWII by instigating Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. Look into the elite Roosevelt bloodline. Drug money just like all the big elites. FDR was as big a traitor as any of them. Another lying psychopath is all.

    They DO control it. It is called Order Out of Chaos, managed crisis, problem-reaction-solution over and over again and again and the people keep falling for the same lies over and over again because they are trained that way by the schools, entertainment and the media. You can’t get out of their New World Order by mimicking their own system with “a New Bretton Woods” or by “reform” or by voting, or by violent revolution. The only way out is through secession, independence from the Union. That is the one thing the elite (including all the big conspiracy honchos like Alex Jones) don’t want you to talk about. No they want you to talk about the next rigged election in 2012, and again in 2016 and so on and so on. Meanwhile the Agenda is pushed through while we were hoping and praying for a Savior.

    Good question about McNamara. I don’t know either. SMOM knight Haig was his partner in crime during Nam so there is one connection. The DOD as well as the CIA is filled with SMOM knights like Schmitz, and Freemasons, so you pretty much have to be a member of these clubs to attain those heights of power. He probably has some knighthoods from Queen Elizabeth. He did get the Legion of Merit which is a type of chivalric order whose medal is a variation of the Maltese Cross or Cross of Amalfi.

  245. Even though Roosevelt is from an elite family doesn’t mean that FDR is an evil person. In fact if you ever listened to his inauguration speech, you will see here how goes after the moneychangers. And exactly where you get the idea that FDR was involved in organizing the Japanese to attack the US, you need to clarify.

    Besides he revived the US economy for the benfit of the people. There was an assassination attempt on him, where a local governor got killed instead, and even at the democratic convention, Wall Street operatives (Raskob etc) where busy trying to get rid of him as a candidate.
    Then there was a coup attempt against him, again launched from Wall Street, and especially John Pierpont Morgan. Those were the enemies of F. D. Roosevelt.

    That’s where you should look. The problem is not the state, but that the financial system is a private financier controlled system. They then have subverted the integrity of the state, but the power of these characters, the Mellons the Morgans Duponts Rockefellers etc, flows from the private control of the federal reserve system. Break that and you break their immediate power.

    Even the maltese orders are creatures of this private financier control of the world central banking system.

    And if you think that secession is going to help you here, i can assure you that you will be very disappointed. I would rather say that they would love the US to be broken up into many small pieces. Then they can really play their divide and conquer game. You wouldn’t get a single chance, they would just herd your new entity like a little farm.

    Besides they are feudalists, and that is exactly what the feudal system was all about. No nation state system. And small weak states are just lambs for the slaughterhouse.

    Take it from the top or just forget it.

  246. Also you should clarify what you mean by saying that Franklin Roosevelt took the gold from the people?

  247. In his early days Alan Greenspan was outspoken against the Federal Reserve System, to shut him up I would guess that some money changed hands. Money will shut up just about anyone.

    The Fiat money system is a designed financial system which will always collapse after about 40 years. The system is designed to create inflation at 4-5% annually until the buying power of the Fiat money equals $0 dollars. Our Federal Reserve Notes would have made it to 2011 if Bush hadn’t gone on a money spending binge. We will never again see a gold standard system in this country. If a countries financial system is based on gold the financiers of that country cannot manipulate the money supply without getting caught. Politicians would be forced to keep balanced books. Under a Fiat system they do not need to concern themselves with balancing anything, they just print more money until it’s worthless.

    Are we there yet? Yes, we’re actually 4 years early.

    It’s time for the bodies to hit the floor.

    A little about FDR, Alger Hiss was FDR’s behind the scenes right hand man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alger_Hiss

  248. to researcher…

    If this Hiss reference is meant to be an attack on FDR, i really don’t get it. As a matter of fact, because Wall Street hated FDR so much, they would probably label many FDR supporters as communists or something alike. Kind of for political smearing as Churchill had called for the cold war with his Iron-curtain speech, which definately in itself made Russia an enemy.

    I think Churchill was an absolute British imperialist swine, and because Truman was a puppet of the british the US went along with this destructive policy.

    Much of what happened in the US after Truman came in was basically political targeting by calling people communists. But that’s crap.

    Besides wikipedia is not a reliable source. I don’t think it’s entirely wrong what they write about Hiss, but a sophists method is to mix in lies with truth and not tell the whole story.

    You’re absolutely right about the monetary situation. But money issued as credit from the state for real wealth increasing physical economic productivity is a different story, so it’s more a matter of how the money/credit is directed than just the issuance of money/credit itself.
    Lincoln’s greenback showed this difference, and created real growth. Had it not been for the return of Wall Street to power after Lincoln and the species resumption act, the US wouldn’t have gone into a recession in the late half of the century.

  249. Every puppet has it’s puppeteer. Every President, every Prime Minister, you, me and everyone else has a puppeteer. So bow down to your puppet masters and prepare to take it in the rear, more is on the way.

  250. I am encouraged to read how many people are actually aware of the things happening behind the scenes in this world. There is most definitely a network of powerful organisations operating with the sole purpose of imposing their will upon everyone on earth. There is one thing that has been largely missed, however. Since we are mostly “educated” and scientifically minded it is easy to dismiss the role of the supernatural in all this. Secret financial, military, scientific and social orders are all simply tools that are put to use for one purpose and one purpose only, and that is to eventually bring all people under religious control. More specifically, to set up a global religion or system of worship dedicated to honouring Lucifer and debasing God. This may sound far-fetched but mark my words; you will see this happen in the near future as the major players in world religion come together to enact laws making Sunday (also known as the pagan day of the Sun) the global day of worship. The entire panorama of earth’s history was predicted thousands of years ago and finally the end has come. Prepare yourselves.

  251. Andrew:
    I understand what you’re saying, but everything you’ve stated thus-far has come to pass. Sunday has been the designated pagan day for the last 1800 years or so. And they already honor the Allegorical Lucifer with the insalubrious entertainment/bread and circus freak shows on TV, radio, magazines, music and cornball pop culture in general.
    Plus religions such as Kabalah, Freemasonry, and Catholicism all factor into this esoteric group think.

  252. You are quite right, but the powers that be have not yet resorted to civil force to back up their agendas. This is what we will soon see on the world stage, no doubt led by the US government and their intelligence agencies.. but i totally agree; television is one of the most insidious elements in the plot to control the mind of man. The media make sure we keep buying consumer goods, paying our mortgages, adoring our celebrities and basically believing whatever lies they choose to sell us, all in order to keep us subdued and distracted from the trap that is being set under our very noses.
    -A perfect example of how TV stations prefer useless drivel over meaningful information: one of my friends was in the USA at the time of the tsunami that wiped out over 200,000 people in south east asia. He watched CNN news and said that particular event earned a brief and understated spot on the news while the headline story was all about a guy who ate an amazing number of hotdogs to win an eating contest.
    Generally speaking the American population are unfortunately among the most deluded and ill-informed people on earth, thanks to their media corporations, and this sad fact will alow them to be led as sheep to the slaughter when the time is ripe.

  253. Did anyone else hear the Fifth trumpet of God Almighty sound ?
    Did anyone else hear the Fifth trumpet of God Almighty sound when oil wells were lit ablaze during “Operation Desert Storm”?
    During the Gulf War when all the oil wells were lit ablaze I was attacked by a demon on three separate occasions all at night. This is what happened. While I slept this demon would fly through the window and attack me. The spirit inside me fought this demon briefly until I awoke. Then it made me take over. This demon was horrid and spun circles around me thrashing through my soul with his hands then left as fast as it came. The demon radiated with the pains associated with the abyss. He was like a coal pulled from the fire, with the pains of the abyss Rev 9, 3. This happened on three occasions as I have stated. The third time however was different from the rest. As before the demon attacked me but this time I had enough since to command it to leave in the name of Jesus Christ. What happened next is even more amazing. After commanding this demon to leave in the name of Jesus, the Holy Spirit delivered me outside my room into the hallway. The demon followed. It stood to my left and grabbing my hand with his, it placed its tail on top of my left hand. It sent waves of fire through my soul Rev 9, 10. The pain was so sever that I couldn’t scream. Unconditionally, I looked straight up and said “father please help me”. The demon then left.

    This all happened after being seduced into trying transcendental meditation and falling into spiritual bondage to witchcraft / demonic forces Rev 13,10. Or the spiritual bondage may have occurred after playing a Ouija board as a young boy. I’m not quite sure. What I am sure is that prior to being attacked by this demon I was forced to go through the N.W.O’s. “secret” ceremony of transcendental meditation assisted with witchcraft / demonic forces. Why I say demonic forces is that I believe all witchcraft to be the powers of demons / the Devil. I was forced with witchcraft, through methods of torture, to go through said ceremony. The methods of witchcraft included mind control, heart palpitations, witchcraft dreams causing sleep depravation and many other forms. In said ceremony I was instructed to except the worship of one of their many “demonic gods”. They informed me that in excepting one of there gods I accepted them all. What better way to join all religions of the world together under one banner of 666.

    This is the method Satan’s secret society uses to distribute the “spiritual mark of the beast” and cause spiritual captivity Rev 13, 10. Have you received your spiritual mark yet? This may sound hard to believe for those who don’t know what I’m talking about but it is a true story. Hear are a few scriptures giving in sight. If anyone is to go into captivity into captivity they will go Rev.13, 10. This is a spiritual captivity to witchcraft / demonic forces. Who enslaved nations by her witchcraft Naham 3, 4. By your magic spell all nations were led astray Rev 18, 23.
    There is a way out, but it is difficult. Those who overcame overcame by the blood of the lamb and the “word” of their testimony. They didn’t love their own lives so much as to shrink from death Rev.12, 11. By their fear of death they are held in, spiritual captivity Heb. 2, 15. Satan’s secret society has many names a few are the Mafia / Illuminate Masons 666! Have they been using drug dealers to terrorize your neighbor hood? Christians are their many “Free” Masons and Shriner’s in your Christian church? I’m sure they are in all walks of life and the cancer is spreading through out society.

    I no, I post this all the time! Here is the rest of the story. Three to four nights later the demon returned in the early am like 3am. He wasn’t alone Satan/Apollyon and his twin brother was with him. They hovered in the air above the ground, before the olive tree in the back yard. I could see them as the spirit in me manifested them to me! Satan hovered in the middle while the demons were on either side of him. The demon on his left had been thrown into the lake of fire for what he did to me. He radiated like a coal pulled from the fire what seemed to be 15′x15′. He was lit up like a Christmas tree! Graciously yours baptized by fire the witness! Who will believe this testimony? God will be my witness!

  254. Stung!
    Are you insane or an agent provocateur?
    Maybe you should stop watching movies such as “The Exorcist” and find another form of entertainment to tickle your fancy.

  255. You’re fucking crazy.

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  257. Satan is everywhere, and things far worse than a crazy dream are happening to people on a global scale. It’s called Global Governance. Jesus was murdered for knowing the truth, and then teaching the truth to his followers. He went head-to-head with the established ‘religion’, and the ‘money changers’ of his time. Then they tortured him, and nailed him to the cross. And for voicing our opinions, will we be nailed to a cross? Only time will tell.

    I just received an email stating that New Hampshire is attempting to secede from the Union. http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html

    If you haven’t read this document, it’s a must read. And please forward to everyone you know. I think New Hampshire makes the ninth state.

  258. This was in my email today.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/bardallis/bardallis14.html

    Dear Federal Government,

    Drop dead.

    Excuse us. Some may consider such bluntness to be indecorous, but why beat around the bush? In any case, we’ve been around this bush (Bush?) too many times to count already. It’s time to let you know what we really think of you, what we say behind your back, what we whisper to each other when you leave the room.

    We hate you. We want you to drop dead. Or,
    anyway, to go away and never come back. You are not welcome anymore. We have tolerated you – and we emphasize “tolerated” – for a long time, long after whatever romance there may have been is gone. We can pretend no more. You are disgraceful, boorish, nauseating, corrupt,
    shameful, arrogant, dishonest, self-serving,
    parasitic, disgusting, hypocritical, and rotten
    to the core. You have not even one redeeming
    quality. There is nothing you offer that we want
    any longer. We’re not even sure what it is we ever saw in you to begin with.

    We suppose you can be forgiven if this letter
    comes as a shock. “Why,” you say, “what do you
    mean? I still command great respect and inspire
    widespread adulation. And I still care about you. Isn’t it obvious?” It’s true that, in public, we often nod our heads and agree with you, even defer or appear to defer to you. But we assure you that this happens not out of respect; rather, it arises merely from the fact that you have a lot of guns and a bad temper. Inside, we are seething and resentful. Inside, we imagine your demise in the most vivid and gratifying of ways. We may fear your irrational and violent behavior, but we
    manifestly do not respect or agree with you. We
    don’t love you. We don’t even like you. (See the part about hate, above.)

    At any rate, our revulsion toward you has finally
    come to outweigh any fear we have of you. We
    refuse to keep our real feelings in for even one
    more second. We want you gone from our lives. And we mean completely. Vamoose. Go. Die.

    Please understand we aren’t here to argue. No
    special new subsidy, tax break, or privileged
    “loophole” is going to sway our opinion or make
    us change our minds about this. We’ve been there, done that, for too many decades to count now. Likewise, your threats are starting to make us yawn and even laugh. You see, we know all your tricks now. We can see through your lies because we’ve heard them all so many times before. We are fully aware of your true nature, and we see that that nature is radioactive evil, wrapped in a tattered blanket of ignorance, foolishness, and stupidity.

    Look, we know it’s only a matter of time anyway.
    Your dimwittedness, greed, fraudulence, and moral bankruptcy are finally starting to catch up to you. Even your former employees admit as much. Do you remember Paul Craig Roberts, one of your past Treasury officials? Today
    http://www.creators.com/opinion/paul-craig-roberts.html?columnsName=pcr he
    says of your latest economy-wrecking and warmongering efforts: “The world has never seen such total mindlessness. Napoleon’s and Hitler’s marches into Russia were rational acts compared to the mindless idiocy of the United States government.”

    Mindless idiocy: We could not have said it better
    ourselves. Wait, yes, we could have, because we
    would have also mentioned your meanness and malevolence.

    Our state governments are starting to feel the
    same way about you that we do. Many are
    <http://www.realnightmare.org/news/105 openly refusing to obey your so-called “REAL ID” attempt at creating a national “your papers, please” regime of Hitlerian proportions. Some are even http://www.dailypaul.com/node/81631 starting to make noises about the Tenth Amendment, which reiterates that you aren’t allowed to just do anything you feel like doing. (We are not big
    fans of our state governments either, but at
    least they don’t start wars, counterfeit our
    money, and prop up tyrannies across the globe.)

    You see? Look in the mirror for once. The emperor not only hasn’t got any clothes, he’s a quadruple amputee demanding that everyone admire his muscular physique. We don’t know whether to laugh at or feel pity for such a pathetic creature.

    In conclusion and just so we’re clear: We’re
    done. Pack up and get out. Better yet, don’t pack
    all that stuff belongs to us in the first
    place. Just get out. And when you finally,
    mercifully, do kick the bucket, please make sure
    it is in some place far away from us, where we
    won’t have to smell the stench of your hideous, rotting corpse.

    Signed,

    Every Normal Human Being in America and the Rest of the World

    February 14, 2009

    Copyright © 2009 LewRockwell.com

    Thanks Lew, I totally agree.

  259. I did research for a paper back in the early 90s about media ownership – particularly with the defense industry and was struck even then by the number of blue-chip company directors who were also Knights of Malta. I was also flabbergasted at how rarely (almost never) this group ever came up amongst even the most paranoid ‘NWO’ conspiracy crowd.
    This isn’t tin-foil hat stuff – this is a fairly small, secretive group of VERY powerful people.

  260. A whole host of elite organizations are all tied together at the top of this Order of Evil.

    Yes, J. Peter Grace was a big one…. Council for National Policy (CNP), Yale University , Newcomen Society, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Knights of Malta, CIA, Project Paperclip and more…

    NAZIS, THE VATICAN, AND CIA
    http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/caqsmom25.1.html

    PRINCES OF PLUNDER By David Guyatt
    http://www.whale.to/b/knights_q.html

    J. Peter Grace
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=J._Peter_Grace

    And so was Henry Luce Knights of Malta, CFR/CIA, and a Skull and Bones member…

    PRINCES OF PLUNDER By David Guyatt
    http://www.whale.to/b/knights_q.html

    Connection between CIA and Knights of Malta
    http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showConnection.php?id1=113&id2=5338

    Knights of Malta, Pilgrim Society, etc
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/4952208/Knights-of-Malta-Pilgrim-Society-etc

    It is actually next to impossible to get a handle on the vastness of this conspiracy of darkness…

  261. Mass reproduction of demonic/reptilian hybrids(Lucifers kids) have infected the planet. See my site for all details at ..myspace/erikthered9.

  262. Erik Rothe:
    “Mass reproductions of demonic/reptilian hybribs (Lucifer’s kids) have infected the planet”?????

    Can you please elaborate?
    Thanks…..

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  264. This is a very interesting read indeed. I’m Maltese and have to admit that did not know about all facts mentioned here.

  265. Well, Malta, what do you think about it? Does the information fit for you? Does it make sense? Does it ring true or not? I would like to hear more from you if you please, because you are right there. Also, have you looked at the SMOM tombs in St John Co-Cathedral?

    http://www.stjohnscocathedral.org/Tinfo.html

    Have you looked into the occult symbols in there? This is a vast subject.

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  268. Don’t be fooled there are NO facts posted here just baseless accusation, innuendo and coincidences. Swirl them together and voilà, you have a conspiracy theory. Couldn’t the simplest explanation just be bit closer to the truth. The fact that several non-related organizations have chosen the same or similar names.
    I am now going out to invest in tinfoil as it seems more ‘hats’ are being made daily. Sad, very sad indeed.

  269. Yeah, don’t be fooled. No facts here folks, so move along, be very fearful but go about your lives as normal. Juan Carlos isn’t the heir of Fascist General Franco. Rothschilds aren’t Knights of Malta. SMOM didn’t supply passports for the Nazis down the Ratlines. Joseph Schmitz and his daddy have nothing to do with SMOM. In fact, the big elites aren’t SMOM, they are actually members of the Cub Scouts! Yeah that’s it! And Blackwater (now Xe), a loving charity which can do no wrong has nothing to do with SMOM or Malta even though they have a base in Malta.

    Slavery is Freedom. War is Peace. Ignorance is Strength. Got it? Just keep repeating it over and over again and again….and keep watching TV and taking your prozac. The more you watch, the more pills you pop, the happier you will be!

  270. Where did the image of (painting) Amschel Mayer Rothschild wearing a malta cross come from? That’s the key!!! Founders of Israel not wearing a six pointed..star, but rather a malta cross? Please email me (admins can see that address) the source of that Rothschild painting for use to help expose the buggers from my australiamatters.com site.

    Kind Regards,
    Rod Freeman

  271. It took me over 3 hours to read this blog and all the comments but I have found it very informative and quite revealing my question is how you can you dismiss with 100% certainty that there is no possibility of Extraterrestrial life? Considering how secretive the government is about these things and how people like william cooper and phil schneider have been killed who come out and talk about it.. And you know aaron russo the guy who made freedom to facsism “died” but I think he was killed too.. Its obvious there are more connections underneath the surface. What would you say in response to this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3932487043163636261 I am open minded and here to learn the truth. my uncle (not blood) is in the national guard and knights of columbus and is also a catholic and when i talked to him about this video he called me “radical”.

  272. I don’t say there is no ET life in the universe. I think it is stupid to think that this planet out of all the trillions of planets and stars that this one would be it, the only unique one out of them all that just happens to have life. In any case, it is impossible to know 100% either way unless you go to there to see what is there or they come here. So the issue is whether or not they are here. Well, if they are here I have still not seen any proof of it. Show me a few real live aliens walking around that I can actually meet and maybe even communicate with. So far there is no proof that I have seen. UFOs can be accounted for as black technology developed by the Nazis (whose top bosses tended to be Knights of Malta) and brought to the US after WWII, after which the UFO craze got started up with massive disinfo about aliens. William Cooper later admitted that his top secret classified revelations could have been high-level disinfo and that he himself could have been duped into believing in aliens. So I think he died still in doubt about the issue. He was not killed because he “revealed” something about aliens in other words. As far as Phil Schneider goes, I find the story somewhat hard to believe, though again he could have been a victim of mind control and could well have been part of some very dark underground black projects. I have no doubt the black ops boys are doing bizarre genetic experiments that the general public would never approve of, so these things are done in the secret bases no doubt. If he did have contact with “aliens” of some kind it might have been these genetically modified creatures or chimeras. The truth is a great number of humans are literally being culled and killed off via a vast assortment of methods from vaccinations and drugs to GM foods, aerial spraying etc. We are gradually being reduced and killed off like bugs, like vermin to make way for the New World Order.

    My perception of the whole Zeitgeist thing is that it is a cult of globalist, socialist sustainability to move us into these compact Venus Project sustainable eco-cities. It is precisely the same agenda as the UN. Look up ‘re-wilding’. Also realize that every one of these Papal and Chivalric Orders works hand-in-glove with the UN as NGOs. I will be glad to discuss this more with anyone.

  273. Interesting. I first thought the idea would be the solution to this manufactured economic crisis, but I am always open to other ideas. First off let me tell you my current circumstance. I am a junior in highschool and have a large project called “project citizen” in my sociology class. The teacher who is advocating this idea and running the class seems to be open minded because we have talked about how the corrupt federal reserve has taken control of america and how 9/11 was an inside job. He has looked into some conspiracies but I have an intuitive doubt about his reliability. He is a member of the ACLU but I have heard good and bad things about this. He is also a member of the VFW and has received numerous awards. http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2009/01/mon_muskegon_orchard_view_soci.html
    He is also a major Ron paul coordinator and is trying to push me to bring this Resource Based Economy idea to an interview with Peter Hoekstra, our representative of this district. However I told him hoekstra is a pawn for the NWO and that I don’t want to talk to him and he suddenly took my side by saying “yes he is a pawn and he also supports people being tortured in guantomino bay” but then he started pushing us towards an interview with Ron Paul. I have no doubt he could easily get us in to talk with him, but Ron paul is for a gold standard which is not coincidal with the RBE idea.

    I’m not sure if I’ve been lured into some kind of trap, where Marv B. is some kind of agent trying to use me as a pawn in the elitist game of achieving a one world government, or if he is sincerely trying to help the activists take out the tyranny. I know that I will NOT be a pawn in any of their games.

    Thats the situation I’m currently in and any input would be appreciated thanks.

  274. we are also going “on the radio” to talk about these ideas soon,.

  275. Wow! Hissil, you have a great head on your shoulders for what 17? Or for any age for that matter. I say that because you are able to think for yourself despite all the forces arrayed against independent thought. It is tough, but you strike me as tough enough to deal with it. I don’t have time to get into it right now, but you do definitely have an interesting set of issues that you are grappling with. I will try to at least give you my views on it sometime on Sunday. Meantime, stay true to your own instincts!

    PJ

  276. Chris Parcher

    wow… the fact that people think that the knights of saint john are anything but a benevolent organization is surprising. I will chalk all this up to anti-catholic propaganda… did anyone stop to think that all these theories are just created to cause general chaos as dim-witted people start to believe it!

  277. No one has yet refuted a single fact in this entire post, including all the comments I have made, except to whine about “anti-Catholic propaganda” and make idiotic, lame-brain attempts at calling my character into question. Refute something real with some kind of rational argument! None of you is capable of it because first, you got nothin substantial to say, and second, you are a bunch of lying scoundrels! Scumbags! Just like your ultra-rich elite aristocratic role models here who hide behind the crumbling facade of “charity” while they continue their agenda for global domination. So, once and for all, let’s get one of you to come forth, make an attempt to refute some of the facts, specifically. I know, I know, it’s futile, but just give it a shot.

    __________

    “This is going to be the most astounding thing you’ve ever heard of. I say this knowing a man of your caliber and your profession must have known some astounding things in his time. What do you know of the Order of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem later known as the Knights of Rhodes?”

    “Crusaders or something, weren’t they?”

    “Very good. Sit down. These crusading Knights persuaded Emperor Charles V to give them the Island of Malta. He made but one condition: That they pay him yearly the tribute of a falcon in acknowledgment that Malta was still under Spain. Do you follow me? Have you any conception of the extreme, the immeasurable, wealth of the Order of that time? They were pretty well fixed. ‘Pretty well’ is putting it mildly. They were rolling in wealth, sir. For years they’d taken from the East nobody knows what spoils of gems, precious metals, silks, ivory, sir. We all know the Holy Wars to them were largely a matter of loot.”

    - Sydney Greenstreet speaking with Humphrey Bogart in the Maltese Falcon, 1941

  278. Lots of great infomation on this site!

    Kudos

  279. This guy on youtube by the name of Earthlasthope has created a cult called Earth Defense Federation. In June 2008 I talked with him on the phone before it started, he seemed legit at the time. Until he kept asking for money and I found out the truth to his scam. I uploaded part of this conversation to youtube, surprisingly they censored the video due to “inappropriate content”. It’s true the Illuminati own google and youtube. the guy who leads this earthlasthope account is known as Matthew Ringrose. I heard rumors that he was connected to freemasonry, and some research has revealed very compelling evidence. It is possible that matt is very involved with the NWO agenda and is trying to group together the open minded people to create a “base”. Over a year he has been asking for donations to build a website, yet he is still using freewebs. It’s obvious hes a con artist. But what is disturbing is how he was able to get youtube to censor the video exposing him as freemason bloodline. Here is a link, i reuploaded the audio to another host so youtube technically can’t delete my video, not that they were allowed to in the first place anyway. ALso here is a link to “kurt ringrose”, a member of: York Rite bodies of “THE LODGE OF ANCIENT, FREE AND ACCEPTED MASONS”, “THE CHAPTER OF ROYAL ARCH MASONS”, “THE COUNCIL OF ROYAL & SELECT MASTERS” and “THE COMMANDERY OF KNIGHTS TEMPLAR


    http://ringrose.org/kurt.htm

  280. The Elm City

    oops, the K of C, Skull & Bones are headquartered in New Haven.
    The Bushes are from New Haven.

    Maybe you clowns should aim at New Haven
    being a nest of spies, cultists, aliens and the source of whatever else you theorists dream dream up.

    get a life.

  281. First I’d like to say that ppl talking about aliens are just out to divert you (Hissil).
    Second, Alex Jones is really lame. Probably a New World Disorder agent.

    This teutonic knight stuff is crap, the real business is the Order of St. John. That includes the allies of the Bailey Brandenburg order with the protestant Venerable order together with the catholic SMOM. They are an alliance with some others, like the dutch part of it.

    Remember the Venerable order has HM Queen Lizard as their head. They include most of the high nobles in Britain etc. Queen Lizard is for instance the souvereign of the Cayman Islands, where most of the hedge funds operate. All part of the same swamp (talk about Pirates of the Carribean).

    On this NGO – UN , it surely is a paradigm created to destroy the nations of the world, because that is exactly what the ‘global elite’ wants. Then they can reign freely without having to struggle with national interests. And especially the US with it’s constitution is their prime target. This the Zeitgeist movie is correct in addressing, but ironically the solution this movie gives you is totally in line with nazi prince Bernard of the Netherlands and prince Philip of England’s WWF.

    So the UN and NGO’s are created by what you can call british intelligence (Tavistock etc.), and the most elite NGO is the WWF.

    Want to know their script or visions, read or see H. G. Wells’ “Shape of things to come”. So what they will do is make ppl technology scared, by big boss control society scares, chip implant, besides brainwashing ppl with TV, Facebook, MySpace, Twitter a.o. Thus they will play the environmentalist movement while owning and promoting technology improvements at the same time, all for the benefit of the empire.

    Break this schizm and you break their back. Go for technology improvements like civil nuclear power, inland mass transport technologies (the empire is still primarily based on sea trade against inland development), which better life conditions for human beings, and eventually they will loose.

  282. In response to dk:
    You claim I talk about aliens just as a diversion tactic? You are an idiotic disinformation agent trying to close off peoples minds from researching anything not recognizable beyond the five senses. Your close mindedness is really appalling.

  283. Hissil,

    What is your best proof that aliens are here?

  284. PJwalker911:

    Hissil doesn’t have any proof…he’s just a believer.

    Hissil: you’re let yourself be diverted from what’s really going on.

  285. BoBoo, your an idiot. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. And your false premise that “i am a believer” holds no bearing. I seek the truth so i recognize all possibilities with an open mind. And for you to deny the possibility of alien life existing without any proof seems to be quite ignorant. I’m not saying it does or doesn’t, but many of you are reacting quite hostile to my even mentioning the possibility of alien life existing, which makes me wonder why.

  286. http://mattringroseexposed.webs.com/
    Here is more evidence this guy is part of the freemasonic bloodline.

  287. You are insane. Linking the Knights of Malta with Blackwater with flimsy associations and unrelated data is just fantasy. The Pope has no army but the Swiss guard that keeps him safe from fanatics like you.

  288. Tony Baloney, you are corrupt, just another deceiver protecting (attempting to and failing) the New World Oder system of global expansion, police state legislation, eugenics and all the rest of it, so I spit in your general direction creep. The world needs to be protected from low-level psychopaths like you and tyrants. And tyrants seek to protect themselves from those who are not afraid to expose them, to speak the truth and warn others about their lies and crimes. Besides that, yours and your SMOM buddies’ attacks are far and away more flimsy, without any factual basis whatsoever. All you corrupt scumbags ever do is nitpick, and whine like little babies. Which is understandable because you defend the indefensible and you cannot refute the mountain of irrefutable facts that I present. Not one of you has even attempted to refute a single one of them! Which I find quite amusing.

    The long list of Nazi SMOM knights, the fact that SMOM enabled the Nazis to escape down the Ratlines, the fact that SMOM knight Schmitz was Blackwater’s chief of operations during Bush’s new Crusade in the Middle East, the fact that their base of operations in Europe was (and may still be) Malta, the fact that the elite of the elite aristocracy, the royal families (socalled, who think they have superior genes) are all members of this initiatory order, the fact that they all love and promote promote the UN, the EU, the Holy European Empire (especially Festering, er I mean Festing who loves meeting with assorted dictators and globalists) and globalism and want a world dictatorship of, for and by the elite, all very clearly adds up to an elitist fascist kind of inner clique running the world, united by their evil oaths of secrecy made in the SMOM magesterium. And very corrupt authoritarians like you think it’s very natural that a charity (which is nothing but a front for their nefarious activities) should be run through secrecy, authoritarianism and special diplomatic privilege as an NGO of the UN promoting its globalist policies.

    Then what you do when ordinary, concerned citizens like me point out all these horrors and corruptions, you claim we are “fanatics” and maybe even “terrorists” or “enemy combatants” who are viewed as dangerous. Maybe we should be put in camps and gulags, is that what you are getting at Tony Baloney? Well, I absolutely despise scum like you, just like I despise the Nazis, the Gestapo, the NKVD, the KGB, the CIA and all other forms of totalitarian deception. So to hell with you Tony. You ought to be filled with shame, but psychopaths have no shame nor any conscience whatsoever. Such a sad state of affairs.

  289. very interesting

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  291. Advocatus Diaboli

    I wish I’d spotted this discussion earlier.

    PJ, You speak a lot of sense. I’ve come to very similar conclusions after many years spent sifting through the information available. Have I crossed paths with you on the FB ZM group? Or somewhere?

    Bobo talks earlier about the banking dynasties, namely the Redshields who control world money supply. And I also agree with that… But… If I was at the very pinnacle of some horrendous organisation with plans for world de-population and global resource (including whats left of the humans) domination, I would require that someone take care of my finances. Perhaps the Redshields are simply their own accountants. I don’t know. But they could just as easily be acting on the instructions of a client.

    We need to concentrate, at least for now, on what can be done to stall the operations of this elite group. Time I fear is running out. And that brings me back to Bobo’s comments regarding finance. The perpetrators of this scheme require finance, which they create from the interest they charge on debt. Wipe out interest on debt and their operations stall. Easy to say I know, but its as close to a solution as I’ve heard.

    Granted, that those in the highest positions of power are hardly likely to go quietly. But the issue of interest on debt is simple to understand. If so-called conspiracy theorists continue ranting about the Jesuits, Knights of Malta, The Vatican, Aliens, NWO etc. the sheeple will remain baffled. Or more likely they’ll think you’re talking about a movie they’ve seen! Put it in the simplest terms and we have a chance to get them on board. And make no mistake we need them on board.

    Interest payments affect almost everyone so they’re more likely to pay attention to the subject. Interest on debt is condemned in the major religions of mankind. Awaken the followers to the tenets of their religion and… Well I don’t know! What I’m saying is that for now we have no hope of exposing this den of evil. But hit them where it hurts and I suspect that cracks will start to appear. I will refrain from the obvious house of cards analogy.

    Until recently I had decided that my best course of action would be a long and often lonely path of passive resistance. No longer take on debt, educate my children along similar lines, encourage subtle adjustments to the habits of family and friends, to lead by example and so on. But now I think this is too little too late, by about 100 years or more!

    So would it be possible to roll out the truth on a massive scale “That interest on debt is The problem”? I know its a slightly skewed message but, I’ll say it again, its easy to comprehend. Perception is the key. If the sheeple percieve this to be The Problem and are offered a solution then perhaps they’ll demand it. Problem, reaction, solution. History will take care of the rest.

  292. Sir, your post contains so many innacuracies it is impossible to expound on one or even a few without furthering the confusion of the readers.

    Let it simply be said that you have taken a handful of different facts regarding seperate organizations and crushed them together to form a singular presentation.

    This is a terrible service to the uninformed reader who may or may not consider your words true and or factual.

    I will not address a single point other than one – You lack the informed knowledge of any of these seperate organizations, their history, their purpose, or their establishement to speak on the matter.

    My Affiliation: Freemason
    My Rank: 32 Degree
    My Appendant Body: Scottish Rite
    Years of Affiliation: 18

    *It should be noted to the casual reader of this blog, that although there are hundreds if not thousands of official publications sanctioned by said organizations, there is ALWAYS an email and telephone number to contact these well established and well regarded organizations, who will answer your questions as deemed intelligent and reasonable.

    I suggest the author take such an opportunity and edit this blog soon thereafter to reflect the information as accurate and informed rather than speculative at best.

    I wish the author the best in his endeavors to improve his skills as a publisher of facts rather than speculations and lip service of fiction.

  293. JLH,

    Oh come on now and expound away. Don’t be shy. After all you are the master of the Masonic Matrix http://masonicmatrix.com/ (I have been expounding myself for some time on the Masonic Matrix, the fact that the entire paradigmatic, enigmatic, reality of this troubled world is permeated with Masonic overtones and undertones, especially the undertones). You should be able to shed some luciferian light on the subjects of the Novus Ordo Seclorum, the Ordo Ab Chao, the Novus Atlantis, the rites of the Knights Templar and the Knights of Malta, the celebration of St John (and what it really means) and so forth. Please do enlighten us Sir Knight. You should be able to clarify the role of SMOM in the Vatican Ratlines and tell us why so many CIA directors have been SMOM as well…hehe.

  294. To JLH,

    i saw a documentary about the freemasons made as an apology for freemasonry by the freemasons themselves. This creep Daniel Pipes (from the committee on present danger) was part of that program, and i mean he is really a peace of s…! Like others from this committee.
    Freemasonry is long a subverted entity, now worshipping the knights of old days with their coat of arms and all that BS. Anybody who knows just something from history should know that these knights were the main fascists of these days, supressing the people under the guise of protecting them! Guess it’s not too much different today.
    As a freemason today someone is not enlightened with anything but darkness, getting brainwashed through all these crazy rituals and stupid symbolisms of old. They even go under the guise of being christians, but kiss the ass of Lucifer (not knowing where the hell they are, i guess).

    Anyway most freemasons are just bottom-feeders, as their structure is highly hierachical.

    Mostly just a bunch of wankers!!!

  295. p.s.
    If you want to view a list of real fascists, just check (our members) on…
    http://www.committeeonthepresentdanger.org/
    I think they have a certification for being fascists to be there…

  296. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! people

    do something about it!

    is anyone taking any steps to improve any kind of situation? because there are many situations!

  297. Most of us know about this already but I thought I’d post it for the ones who don’t. So, here’s a look @ some of last years Bilderberg attendees:
    Those reportedly in attendance at last year’s 2008 conference in Virginia include former
    U.S. senator Tom Daschle;
    Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner and his predecessor Henry M. Paulson;
    former U.S. secretaries of state Henry Kissinger and Condoleezza Rice;
    Microsoft executive Craig Mundie;
    senior Wall Street Journal editor Paul Gigot; World Bank President Robert Zoellick and Google CEO Eric Schmidt.

    Well what do you know members of Barack’s cabinet were at last years meeting and this years was even more interesting.

    “Veteran Bilderberg-watcher Daniel Estulin says that the big topic on the agenda for this year is the global depression.”

    “Estulin quotes sources connected to the group as saying that the group is looking at two options, “either a prolonged, agonizing depression that dooms the world to decades of stagnation, decline, and poverty… or an intense-but-shorter depression that paves the way for a new sustainable economic world order, with less sovereignty but more efficiency.”

    Also:
    “Former British cabinet minister, Lord Denis Healey, who was one of the founders of the group, branded assumptions of world domination as “crap!” and said that the group’s aims were much purer.” Of course Lord Denis Healey is full of shit! Moreover, In an interview to journalist Jon Ronson of the Guardian, Healey said: “Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn’t go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing.” How ominpotent is that comment, and if this isn’t the New World Order in you face than nothing is.

    These are excepts from Adam Abrams article at haaretz.com/twitter.

    As of right now I’m looking into more info about the 2009 conference. As more news developes I’ll keep you informed.

  298. Further mistakes in the article

    Some more mistakes in the article:
    - Reinhard Gehlen worked for the Nazi military secret service, but I don’t think that we was ever accused concerning NS crimes.
    - Kurt Waldheim was the victim of incriminating documents faked by the mossad.
    - Franz von Papen was considered to be not guilty in the Nuremberg Trials (which worked outside of all minimum juristical standards and sentenced people for “crimes” that did not exist at the time of “commitment”, often with faked proofs and suppressed evidence for the defense, …).
    - Fritz Thyssen was an early supporter of the Nazis, but had difficulties with them as soon as 1934 and was later imprisoned by them in a Concentration Camp.

  299. This latest slug is not reliable, basically a bunch of misinformation…

    For instance, Fritz Thyssen was as much a nazi as anyone. All the way through the war, his family bank was involved with support of the nazi war machine, and the imprisonment is just a smokescreen to cover his ass. The Thyssens were hardcore nazi supporters, but the upper ups were spared through the Nuremburg trials.
    Read this nice article about the Thyssen family, called “The killer countess: The dark past of Baron Heinrich Thyssen’s daughter “:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/the-killer-countess-the-dark-past-of-baron-heinrich-thyssens-daughter-395976.html

    Hjalmar Schacht who was the architect of the nazi war economy and was finance minister, economics minister and Reichsbank chief in the period from 1930-1940, was also aquitted at Nuremburg. (He also used the smokescreen of imprisonment by Hitler in the last part of the Hitler era.)

    The nazi backing British and Wall Street interests (now controlling the US through Truman) helped Reinhard Gehlen free and sent him to the US to help CIA chief Dulles against the new soviet “threat”, which Churchill conveniently had played up as the main enemy with his Iron curtain speech, and the Spanish style inquisition in the US against so called communists began. Basically everybody who was against the new right wing fascism was called a communist and targetted.

  300. Yes the latest agent/critic seems delighted that von Papen (Vatican/Nazi Concordat), Waldheim, Gehlen and Thyssen (Hitler’s financier) got off at Nuremburg AS IF those who did are automatically innocent, like the big Nazi fish who slithered down the SMOM-Vatican Ratlines off to S America and the useful Nazis and War Criminals who were imported into the US under Dulles’ Project Paperclip. Werner Von Braun, a Nazi slavemaster and the bomber of London and other cities was promoted to American hero in the NASA (sounds almost like NAZI doesn’t it) and Franz Alfred Six, a very demented mind-control expert sent in to train US agents and military intelligence. The deep seated Nazi/SMOM/CIA/Skull and Bones connections goes on and on and on…. even today.

    DK, you point out the true connections with Wall Street and The City providing money, technology-tranfers and material to Germany. Nazi bombs with American fuses killed GIs. Rockefeller Standard Oil and General Motors helped build and sustain the War Machine. IBM provided the deportation and execution tracking machines. And on and on and on…These liars who come here making snide comments have absolutely no consience and a deep disdain for humanity in general. They are very evil indeed. This is what is at the core of SMOM, elite Fascist masters of the stinking New World Oder.

    People who want to know who runs the world need to look into the high Illuminati like King Juan Carlos another SMOM member. Check into his background. Trained into power by his mentor Nazi-Enabler Fascist Dictator Franco. Then, a very suspicious shooting of his brother Alfonso, rival for the crown. Why anyone would bow down to kings and queens especially today in the 21st century, remains a mystery, unless you know who has run the world for the last several thousand years and why they cling to hereditary power century after century.

  301. This thread is starting to get hot again, and just for openers I suggest reading Anthony C. Sutton’s “Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler” for a concise look at how U.S. corporations aided and abetted the Nazi war machine.

  302. cocoadjutor

    Could JLH please explain us why the 32nd degree of the Scottish Rite use the same motto as the Jesuits, that is “Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam”. And why was Frederick the Great, a prominent Freemason, the greatest protector of the Jesuits when they had been suppressed by the Pope.

  303. cocoadjutor, good questions! But every time you put the tough questions to them regarding the real connections between Catholicism and Freemasonry (two controlled oppositions of the same coin), they just remain silent. In fact, they have absolutely nothing of substance to say about any of this.

  304. I think you folks give Blackwater too much credit. These are just another bunch of money grubbing mercenaries hiding behind Christianity. This has been going on since Jesus gave the money changers a serious smack down in the temple. What I find really interesting is the fact that money and power corrupt. Jesus knew this, I know this, and so do you. Blackwater and it’s minions only know greed and a lust for power. Two thing that have an appetite that can never be quenched. They have made their own hell on earth and are living in it. I have never met a millionaire that wasn’t working on his second million or a crack addict that didn’t need more drugs.

  305. Red Shield

    Wow, what a bunch of garbage. Aren’t you glad they didn’t squash you right off the internet? Oh wait, they can’t because –so– many people have read this already. Get a clue.

  306. Cathy

    Technically, these two, Horowitz and Joyner (like Mbeki and Mandela), belong to the “Protestant” Order of St John which has many offshoots, but is primarily based in England under the patronage of the Queen and The Duke of Gloucester, as Grand Prior of the Order (note also that the royal family runs the Masonic United Grand Lodge of England! They have all bases covered. And that’s another connection I have covered and will cover more extensively in future, between Masonry and the Chivalric and Papal Orders which of course they all deny, haha.). Despite protestations by the various groups, here and elsewhere I have demonstrated that there is really little difference between them, especially in the fact that they all trace back to the original Hospitallers of Jerusalem, Rhodes and Malta using the same symbols, hooked into the same globalist NWO programs. Then the last Grandmaster of SMOM Bertie was a cousin of the Queen. The current one, Festing, is well involved with the royal family and is one of the Queen’s knights in addition to being a SMOM knight.

    Like the Vatican itself, the military SMOM order is deeply involved with promotion of the United Nations and it’s vast all-encompassing programs for world government and totalitarian control over every sphere of human activity. They also promote the totalitarian EU and hobnob with all the various corrupt leaders and dictators (communist or fascist matters not to them – as long as they are totalitarian, it’s good for them) of both Eastern and Western Europe and other countries. SMOM is but one group among a myriad of interlocking higher circles of aristocratic feudal power who plan and plot out this fascist/socialist New World Order for their own enhancement while keeping the vast majority of lowly struggling sheep in a deep sleep about it through their control of information.

    The victims of this exploitation, in ignorance, then turn to their persecutors looking for guidance and help (politically, spiritually, financially etc), an old, old trick of the elite that has been perfected into “philanthropy” and has worked for thousands of years to keep people poor and dumbed down. That’s why I hate them, and not one of them can defend or disprove any of these facts. In fact, they don’t dare to try because they look like fools doing it and expose themselves as the elitist pschopaths that they are, hiding behind a crumbling facade of charity. Instead, they content themselves with nitpicking or grumbling about the style of my writing. I have great deal of information on them, probably the largest collection of news articles and investigative reports on SMOM of any other site including their own, which I am sure pisses them off.

    Do not be afraid of them, keep pushing to expose them until the back of the NWO is broken!

  307. PJ,
    Yes, two sides (or more) of the same coin with A LOT of smoke and mirrors – witchcraft with a bow imo. My great-grandfather was a Freemason and my sisters & 1 niece were Job’s Daughters, so I’ve renounced any residual that may have trickled my way.

    Have you researched into the CNP (Council for National Policy)? It’s slick, slimy & secretive as well.

    Onward!

    C

  308. The NWO Matrix system and all its myriad compenents is literally based on black magic (which is Mind Control) from the Mystery Religion occult traditions of ancient Babylon and Egypt etc, from which Secret Societies, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, etc and the socalled higher Chivalric and Papal orders emerge and are intertwined, the manipulation of the masses through illusion and trickery, and if that doesn’t work, through force.

    On CNP

    Malta ‘is Blackwater’s operational base’
    Eric Prince’s parents, Edgar Prince and his wife Elsa Prince Broekhuizen, through their foundation finance the Council for National Policy, an ultra-secret society which met in Salt Lake City on 28 September to hear Dick Cheney argue the case for an attack on Iran.
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/malta-%e2%80%98is-blackwater%e2%80%99s-operational-base%e2%80%99/

    Knights of Malta and AmeriCares & CNP Connection
    http://www.cephasministry.com/church_and_state_knights_of_,malta.html

    The Christian Right, The Pope, the Knights of Malta and the CNP
    http://www.cephasministry.com/nwo_christian_right_cnp_pope_malta..html

    Much more with this search:

    Council for National Policy Knights of Malta
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Council+for+National+Policy+Knights+of+malta&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

  309. Great! Thanks for the link!!

  310. You’re welcome Cathy. Good insights too.

  311. truthseeker7

    Great post pjwalker911.

    I initially got into this stuff because my ex-girlfriend who was also ex-CIA mysteiously stopped talking to me and then just disappearing not long after I met her father who had just been “indoctrinated” (or whatever they do to them) into the Kinghts of Malta in NYC. This chick dug me one day and then just disappeared. I think “daddy” not only was instrumental in her joining the CIA but was also instrumental in making me a personna not grata. All I did was challenge him about the so-called “good work” of the catholic church through history.

    After about 2 years of research my knowledge base is much greater now and things are definitely coming together. I know its only a part of the fight but encourage, no, require your elected officials to support the audit the federal reserve bill in the house and senate!

  312. truthseeker7,

    Interesting story! Anything else you want to add to that? There is no doubt about the direct connection between SMOM and the CIA starting with none other than Wild Bill Donovan. I had a long exchange with a former CIA operative who was trained from childhood by none other than Paperclip Nazi Franz Alfred Six (doctor of philosophy and mind-control expert worked in the CIA and trained Green Berets and Bay of Pigs operatives, was probably SMOM too). She had finally woken up after years of mind-control and was trying to get the truth out between being harassed by her former handlers. She told me all about the importance of the Vatican in espionage (and occult practices which are part of the black magic of intelligence illusionism), how SMOM was nothing but a goddamn elite intelligence network hiding behind charity work, much like USAID is. This was years and years ago before I knew anything about SMOM.

    I’m not going to tell people not to demand a FED audit, but frankly I think it is useless because first of all, the Fed is about to be integrated with the new Bretten Woods global financial order on the way to a global currency. And also because the entire Federal government is overrun, particularly at the Senate level, with globalists (Masons and Knights) who have never told the truth and are not about to tell the truth about ANYTHING! When will people ever learn that every stinkin “investigation” of the absolute corruption of government (foxes investigating chicken-coop massacres) turns out to be nothing but another whitewash? You can forget about “taking back the government”. It just is not going to happen. The only way people can get self-governance is through secession from the American Union and be willing to shed blood for it. That’s it.

  313. truthseeker7

    Pjwalker911

    Regarding my “ex” story. The only other factoids I can add is that my ex did seem truly oblivious to any hidden agenda or deeper connection via “daddy”. He may be one of the naive outsider memebers and if I had to guess I think even she will be surprised if he really is in deeper. He is a born in Italy, Italian who goes back there every summer for 2 months (at least as far everyone knows because the wife never goes) and he was a medic in Viet Nam (retired Dr. from outside Chicago nowadays). He is big in history which is how our little discussion on the catholic church came up. I am from 12 yrs of catholic school so I know how f’ed up it all is.

    Regarding the Fed – I understand what your saying and I fear it may be too late too but I struggle with your statement about the level of Globalists in the Fed govt. To me your statement implies a level of intelligence, longterm cooperation, silence, and willingness to sacrifice alot of lives that I just don’t see. Are they all too afraid, too bought and paid for or too naive to know what is happening. I will continue the fight in all the ways I am presently doing it, support a guy like Ron Paul and continue to try and educate people on what the elitists are doing to us. When the real fighting starts I want as many people on my side as possible.

    Keep up the good research and information. Whether someone believes you or not, a smart person should respect your research and your attempts not to preach but to educate.

  314. truthseeker7,

    Well, I never said that every member of every order (Masonic or otherwise) has a evil intentions. Some, just some, low-level inductees, or just people like orderlies in the hospitals changing bedpans, may just think what they are doing is right and good and in many cases, that is true on one level, however, if they were truly informed about the agendas of the elite who run these organizations, about the Matrix system that surrounds us, and then had the moral wherewithal to see why it was bad, they would turn away from it, renounce and denounce it like Freemason Captain Morgan who paid for it with his life. Jack Kennedy did the same thing denouncing secret societies and threatening to smash the CIA, and look what happened to him.

    I stand by my statement about the Senate. It is absolutely globalist, anti-freedom, all 100 members of it. If you disagree with that statement, then produce a senator who isn’t part of this network of traitors. I will show you what he really is. Did you know that 99 senators voted in the Patriot Act. The only dissenter was Feingold, but he is an anti-gun United Nations socialist, so he is no friend of mine and the others most definitely are not. Not one will tell the truth, not the whole truth because the elite have a plan for America and Americans, and they cannot tolerate or risk having dissenters in such powerful positions. Every senator must therefore be heavily vetted before being admitted into the club. They must be “made men” like Obama was made. And did you know that phrase “made man” which is used by the Mafia originates from Freemasony, as in “he was made a Mason”?

    I do feel that some members of congress may have some good intentions, but by far again, they are either pro-UN on the Left or they are pro-war/empire on the Right. The exception is of course Ron Paul, but here again, I can show you how he is controlled opposition, a hero for the patriots to follow right into a dead-end.

    The willingness to sacrifice a lot of lives, to kill off thousands, as they did on 9/11, or millions, as they are doing through the GM crops and other toxins, the vaccines, iatrogenic illness, etc, without batting an eye, is part of the over-arching Eugenics program of the elite who control America, Europe and are systematically setting up global government. If you don’t believe this is happening, watch the EndGame video and listen to Alan Watt from whom much of the info in EndGame was gleaned. I don’t see Ron Paul jumping up and down about the Eugenics program. I also never heard him say 9/11 was an inside job. I have never seen any concrete results from anything he ever did or said, but I do see him three times a day on CNN, CBS, MSNBC, and especially Fox news. Why, if he is such a freedom-fighter against the NWO, is he so frequently featured on their regular mainstream programs? They would never let someone like Alan Watt on there who is actually telling the whole truth. That is the way it works. Ron Paul comes out of an elite fraternity like Lambda Chi Alpha, not much different than Skull and Bones with fellow brothers like:

    Harry S. Truman
    Richard Clark
    Frank Reynolds
    Paul Harvey
    B. F. Skinner
    John S. Reed
    S. Robson Walton

    As well as a quite a number of senators, congressmen and supreme court judges. There is damn well nothing honorable about this and Skull and Bones is not much different, only at somewhat a higher level.

    He goes on to spend most of his life either in the military or the federal government as a career politician and professional Reaganite, he hangs out at masonic lodges, habitually flashes what is commonly known as the sign of Lucifer to his fans, tells audiences that bin Ladin caused the financial collapse, gives keynote speeches to the SMOM-controlled, Rockefeller-funded John Birch Society and to Jesuit universities like Georgetown, Clinton’s alma mater, and who praises the popes who are well-known as patrons of the United Nations who call for New World Orders and world political authorities, etc. He keeps his followers believing that any Joe Blow can run for president and win (haha!), and did vote to give Bush authority to prosecute the phony war on terror…So, if you actually see, really see the big picture of all this about him, then I guess maybe you too would start have doubts about him. I really don’t have time to go through all the reasons why Ron Paul is leading the sheep astray as I have some 50 pages of reasons waiting to be edited into some kind of final form. Eventually I will get to it though.

    Lenin said it in a nutshell: “The best way to control the opposition is the lead it.”

  315. Agree. Totally.

    Now what to do, if anything?

    I have blogs to shout it out and so do you, PJ.

    It’s like our neighbor’s house is on fire but they are asleep. So we risk waking and angering them to save their lives: WAKEUP EVERYBODY BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE! The nwo is coming/here.

    Now what? My thoughts are beyond what I see to what eternity holds.

    But we don’t know anything about eternity, you may say.

    For me, this is different as I believe in an afterlife and my faith is in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    You may not agree. I didn’t either until one day 30+ years ago – please see my brief story:

    Thanks for your honest analysis, PJ.

    Onward!
    Cathy

  316. Cathy,

    Regardless of religion, sane people want to live in freedom, especially from centralized conglomerate empires. The only way that I can see to do that is for a people in a particular region to say they declare themselves an independent and sovereign territory and are willing to defend that place that they call home from all predations. In other words, I can see no way around secession being the only way to get free from global government, global currency, global this and global that because the US federal government is running straight for it at breakneck speed and I see no way that anyone can stop that process. However, if the states, or groups of states do by and large secede, then they withdraw all their support for the federal government and stop recognizing it as having any legitimacy whatsoever. That includes withdrawing representatives, troops, revenues, and anything else that states give to support the federal government. That also means taking back any lands or interests from that government. There is nothing easy about this, but to be honest, it should have been done long, long ago. All that matters is that people are free and self-governing, regardless of where they live. We don’t have that in any way, shape or form with this US federal system and it will only get worse from here on in until it truly becomes a monstrous tyranny never before seen, one that will make every nightmare from Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Orwell’s 1984 scenario and Brave New World look like a picnic.

  317. truthseeker7

    Ok PJ,

    I have been exposed to pretty much all of the points you raise and I agree that Alan Watt is a fountain of information. Eugenics seems to be at the heart of things. What’s your take on Jim Demint (R-SC)? I don’t know much about him but I enjoyed his recent ammendment on the Fed.

    Here’s a philosophical question for you (but then again maybe not) – does mankind fundamentally desire liberty and freedom, power and control, or safety? It seems like the elitists desire power and control, whereas people like you and I desire liberty and freedom. The elitists take advantage of many people’s desire for safety and use their fear to control them.

    I usually take some solace in the concept that it takes constant work for lies to be maintained but the truth rolls along under it own momentum. I will grant you that that concept and a $4 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks but it does suggest that “they” will have to work to maintain their lies for as long as they want control. We have to continue to chip away at their control and power in whatever ways we can. Even if Ron Paul is as you characterize him, his visions and goals are better than what we have. Sometime you have to get what you can and inch closer to where you want to be.

    Even attempting to control (maybe not control but hinder their advancement) the opposition by joining them has some potential.

  318. PJ,
    Yes, the scenario you paint is a probable one and reminds of a video game that came out a few years ago called Shattered Union – check it out here: http://www.2kgames.com/shatteredunion/home.php

    However, is this what the elite had planned? Revolution/civil war/unrest? Probably.

    We know one of their main objectives is depopulation which is being setup via a manufactured flu pandemic that has quite got off the ground yet, I’m happy to report. Btw, my grandmother died of the Spanish flu back in 1918 when my mother was 3 yrs old. This too was contrived.

    I don’t really know what the next step is. I agree that turning to the government is a waste of time. I mean we know the votes are rigged – it’s all a game to the bankers who pull the strings. They know who they want and that is who will be ‘elected’, by hook and by crook!

    You obviously have put a lot of thought into this, PJ, and I wonder, logistically, what steps should an individual take to prepare? What are you doing?

    THX!

    Cathy

  319. CORRECTION:

    … flu pandemic that has NOT quite got off the ground yet…

  320. truthseeker7

    Hi Cathy,

    Not to answer for PJ, but I think to elaborate on something he has said in an earlier post – unless you are prepared to secede from the union or move to another country not so tied in to the world economy you need to try and get outside the “system” as best you can. Get with like-minded people and try and support one another as much as possible. Grow or raise as much of your own food as you can, get off the grid if possible, stay away from mainstream medical care as much as possible and in my opinion, educate as many people as you can. I’m not so sure that we aren’t dealing with a fundamental flaw in human beings here and so this battle was bound to happen and we just need to keep fighting. One of “their” greatest weapons is keeping the masses ignorant. People need to change their paradigm, stop living to get “stuff” and start living closer to the food chain. Personally I have moved big time into the home gardening area, I’m even selling to my grow locally chapter. My next step is to “rent” garden space to others in return for labor, other skill sets, and to faciliate the education process. People in this country have gotten away from knowing and working with their neighbors.

    Just my humble opinion.

  321. truthseeker7,

    I agree completely with your last comment and applaud what you are doing. All makes perfect sense. Will try to respond to your previous comment tomorrow, particularly re: Jim Demint

  322. Thanks Truthseeker7 – like your name as I too am seeking the Truth!

    Good suggestions and I am heading that direction in many areas.

    cheers!
    Cathy

  323. truthseeker7,

    You really got my curiosity up when you mentioned Jim DeMint. As promised, I said if you give me one name of ANY senator, I would be able to dig down, find his dirt, and show you how he is a nefarious, treasonous, pile of garbage, a deceiver of the masses (well that is what I meant anyway), all under the guise of patriotism and “freedom”. Now, I don’t have time to write a full article on this fascist scum DeMint, though now that I have gotten a whiff of his smelly scent, I am seriously thinking about it. In the meantime, here is what I will do for you and others reading this. I have a number of keywords that I want you and others to Google in conjunction with his name, ie Jim DeMint and:

    Mitt Romney (endorsed him)
    Pope John Paul II
    John Birch Society
    Pope
    Catholic
    Hannity
    Iraq
    Afghanistan
    War on Terror
    Reagan
    Blackwater
    CIA
    Christofascism
    Ron Paul
    Fox News
    Ivanwald ‘The Family’
    The DeMint Group
    Downtown Greenville Rotary Club (20 year member)
    Funding for Operations in Iraq and Afghanistan (voted yes)
    Defense Funding (never votes no)
    US Agency for International Development USAID (CIA front)
    Homeland Security Act (voted for it)
    Patriot Act (voted for it)
    Habeas Corpus (voted against it)
    Joseph Schmitz
    Erik Prince
    Dick DeVos
    Telecom Immunity (voted against removing immunity)
    AT&T (contributer)
    Clear Channel (contributer)
    No Child Left Behind Act (all for it)
    Detentions (all for it)
    Guantanamo (all for it)
    China Most Favored Nation (DECIDING VOTE FOR IT!)
    Military Commissions Act (voted for it)
    Vaccine Compensation (voted against it)
    Mandatory Gun Show Background Check Act (voted FOR it)
    Use of Military Force Against Iraq (voted for it)
    Morton Blackwell
    Restoring the American Dream
    Christian Dominionist
    Jack Abramoff
    H. Res. 125: 108th Congress – “Recognizing the thousands of Freemasons in every State in the Nation”
    Harpers Magazine article “Jesus Plus Nothing,”:
    Wal-Mart Stores (contributer)
    Vought Aircraft Industries (contributer, sits on Aviation board)
    Military service (chickenhawk)
    Microsoft (contributer)
    General Electric (contributer)
    Marine Corps Recruiting Fund
    Fraternal orders
    Rotary International (google United Nations with Rotary International see what you come up with)
    Knights of Columbus
    Conservative Political Action Conference
    Sept. 11 or 9/11
    George W. Bush (buddy)
    Jeb Bush (buddy)
    Heritage Foundation (SMOM controlled)
    Knights of Malta
    Council for National Policy (CNP)

    Oh my, my, my…..I mean, this guy is just endless and very busy and fanatical at building up the New World Order on the right side of the Hegelian coin, while Obama takes care of the left side to complete the big picture to set up the overarching Third Way of the totalitarian matrix. And like his dear friends the Bush Criminal Syndicate, he goes on and on and on about “freedom”. Utter and total BS.

    Keep in mind that this is only the tip of the iceberg. I have only just done a few hours of preliminary research on his life of knavery. Since he is being touted by Ron Paul and his flock of sheep as this great guy to listen to and support, I think anyone who has swallowed this whole Audit the Fed crap should think twice and do at least a little poking around into the UNOFFICIAL Jim DeMint. If you are an honest “truthseeker” (most people are not), then you will want to know the whole truth about him and the Conservative Controlled Opposition Matrix that he and Ron Paul operate in.

    And please don’t tell me that because he is pro-life and floated this Fed bill that he’s “the best we got” (the best who’s got? the best that desperate sheep got to cling to?). The fact is, there is nothing good in Washington, absolutely nothing. It is nothing but a house of total corruption and lies, and that even includes the so-called opposition.

  324. truthseeker7

    PJ,

    I don’t doubt you – about all of Washington being bad, and I certainly never thought Demint was some savior, because no one would last long in DC who was a true savior. Thanks for your upliftnig response LOL

    Any quick words on Adam Kokesh who’s running in NM? The Ron Paulites all love him!

  325. truthseeker7,

    Honestly, I don’t pay much attention to these “revolutionary patriot” types and followers of Ron Paul, et al because they are all just promoting partial truths and apparently don’t want to piece together the Big Picture. They keep running for offices in the Federal Government, telling people that “we can win”, “we can take it back” and all this sort of non-sense that never worked before, and will never work in future because this whole globalizing process was planned out from the beginning by the Rosicrucian/Masonic Elites of the 17th and 18th centuries to set up the “New World” (New Atlantis) model for the New World Order (a secret order, a geopolitical order, a mandate), a global Federation (Franklin was aware of it even then) run by a secret cabal of men with a very long term agenda, given Fresh impetus and clarity by Albert Pike, the “pope” of Freemasonry.

    The Constitution then, was merely provisional, just as the Industrial Revolution was provisional. These were only steps along a path to a goal, a long-range business plan so to speak. You see, I do not believe in the Federal Government anymore. I don’t believe in the American Union, soon to expand a little more to become the North American Union. I don’t recognize it as being my government. I declare my independence from it. I see it as a monstrously vast, overarching, monolithic foreign power threatening not only my freedom, but my life. It is, in short, an Enemy government, a kind of giant Masonic octopus with myriads of tentacles, attacking not only my freedom but the freedom and lives of people around the entire globe.

    The whole constellation around Ron Paul is meant to draw in a huge mass of the remaining (mostly well-meaning) opposition to the NWO and keep them neutralized and neutered, restricted to certain safe parameters which Ron Paul is allowed to talk about on the Feudal/SMOM/Freemasonic/Zionist Military/Industrial Complex’s Fox News and CNN etc all day long. Come on…it’s a big joke, but I’m not laughing. I feel I have sufficiently exposed Ron Paul as a what I would call a willing instrument of the elite. Look at him. He is quite happy sitting in the Masonic Capital… calm, placid even, enjoying his rise to fame and glory with hundreds of thousands of adoring fans, but knowing that nothing he does is ever going to make a damn bit of difference. The essence of textbook Controlled Opposition, very well executed.

    _____________

    By the way, a little more on DeMint’s voting record, keeping in mind, he is buddies with both Bush and Ron Paul:

    Voted NO on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan.
    Voted NO on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore.
    Voted YES on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade.
    Voted NO on withdrawing from the WTO.
    Voted NO on implementing the 9/11 Commission report
    Voted NO on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods.
    Voted YES on extending the PATRIOT Act’s wiretap provision
    Voted NO on restricting business with entities linked to terrorism
    Voted YES on supporting new position of Director of National Intelligence.
    Voted YES on adopting the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission
    Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan
    Voted YES on $266 billion Defense Appropriations bill
    Voted NO on limiting soldiers’ deployment to 12 months

    http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Jim_DeMint_Homeland_Security.htm

  326. cocoadjutor

    Interesting stories and good comments. Yes, CIA really is very much tied in with SMOM. Not only the founder Donovan but also many of its directors have been SMOM, namely Allen Dulles, John McCone, William Colby, George Bush, William Casey, and George Tenet. The present head of CIA, Leon Panetta is Jesuit-trained, like Tenet. An interesting charity organization; runs the intelligence and decorates nazis and fascists like Mussolini for example.

  327. I would also like to add and if anyone cares to comment please do.
    I Christopher Hitchens’ Book “Blood Class and Empire Induring the Anglo American Relationship” Hitchens points out that the Council On Foreign Relations has a Catholic slant to it.
    It’s just something to think about, plus I highly recommend that everyone read Hitchens’ book because he blows alot of the conspiracy wide open believe it or not.

    Plus, if anyone is interested I E-mailed Noam Chomsky and responded back to me right away, and even though I don’t agree with him on what we discussed. I did enjoy it. So here’s what was asked and said.

    Bobo09: “A quick question Professor Chomsky:
    I’ve read many books about the the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Group’s influence on domestic and world affairs. And I feel strongly that these and many other groups influence the outcome of events around the world no matter if it’s for iniquitous, or altruistic reasons.
    (I guess you can say I’m somewhat of a conspiracy theorist.)
    I’ve read rumors on-line that you feel they are nothing organizations/irrelevant, and unfortunately if you made that claim I have to disagree with you on it, but I would like to dispel the rumors and get your take on it directly from you.”

    Noam Chomsky: “They differ. The Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission are quite open. They are gatherings of influential people. They have studies — some of them quite interesting (e.g., the War-Peace Studies, The Crisis of Democracy, both of which I’ve discussed). And their meetings are sometimes of some interest, as one would expect given the participants. Bilderberg seems to be of little significance, as far as anyone knows, though naturally when rich and important people get together something might take place. I’ve investigated these matters for many years, and have seen no convincing evidence to the contrary.
    I think focusing on these organizations often tends to divert attention from what is really happening. Right now, for example, the influence of the lobbies of the financial industries is far more significant than these organizations.”

    Bobo09: “I do agree that totally focusing our energy on these think-tanks will divert our attention from the issues if that’s all we choose to focus upon. However, most of the lobbyist work for the members of these organization and push (lobby) for the agendas they discuss at these meeting.
    Furthermore, it seems elementary in the case of Bilderberg that the politicians that participate in those meeting are violating the “Logan Act” and should face heavy fines and jail time for negotiating on behalf of the United States without congressional consent.
    Plus, don’t you find it a conflict of interest that elite individuals get to negotiate deals with elected officials and influence policy why the American people are left out of the discourse.
    There’s nothing illegal about the corporatocracy assembling and discussing issue with foreign nationals because the world market is what it is (worldly), but I believe there is something seriously wrong when elected official engage in these unlawful discussions. Meaning the violation of the Logan Act, which should be enforced.
    I hope I’m don’t sound rude, or abrupt, and I’m not trying to start an argument. I’m just stating my point from what I believe is a legal perspective as well as a moral one.
    I thank you for responding to my E-mail and for you honest answers. And I’m looking forward to reading more of your important work real soon.”

    Noam Chomsky: “As far as I know, there is no legal basis for proceeding against high level officials, corporate executives, and other powerful people who meet in private.
    We may not like it, but they are within their rights. And as I wrote, I’m frankly skeptical of the significance of these gatherings, apart from what appears in public, which is sometimes of some interest.”

    And that’s the end of my e-mail interview with Noam Chomsky. If anyone would like to comment please do because I think this will make a great discussion.

  328. Bobo,

    Jeez louise……first of all, I can agree with a lot of what Hitchens says about religion. The slight problem I have with him is he, like Irving Kristol, is a Zionist Neocon (last I checked, or has he gone back to Marxism/Trotskyism?) who has touted the GWOT, and the Occupation of Iraq.

    I recognize old buzzard Chomsky’s voice there so it is obvious to me, you actually had an exchange with the “great man” *cough*. It reminds me of what he said about 9/11, something like “Who cares if it was an inside job? There are much more important things to worry about.”

    Yes, that is exactly what I would expect to hear from him on CFR, Trilat, and Bilderberg. Masons say similar things about their “private” meetings. But the fact remains that these are the three main (besides RIIA and Club of Rome) very elite globalist groups in the world whose goal has always been from the start to set up global government which is rapidly approaching by *ahem* “private” Trilateral (AsiaPac, NAU, EU) design, so private in fact that we the general public are never told what they are doing to us, that is until it is already signed into law. Chomsky has no problem with any of this because he is part of that same establishment, just another controlled opposition for liberals and progressives to follow into a dead end, just as Ron Paul is for the Right. Such is the Matrix we are all born into, an entire paradigm with limited parameters, controlled from the top down. So the solution isn’t to vote the bad guys out, it is to unplug from the Matrix system on every level possible. Politically, that means secession, declarations of independence and the willingness to defend sovereignty.

  329. Bobo & PJ,
    Thanks Bobo for sharing your email with Chomsky. I agree with PJ and believe Chomsky is an agent paid to mislead via tools like the Hegelian Dialectic and I don’t trust him.

    Who can we trust? Few.

    PJ, I like what you said, “So the solution isn’t to vote the bad guys out, it is to unplug from the Matrix system on every level possible.”

    And a good start would be to unplug the tv, don’t you agree?

    But deeper than that, we have a sin problem which separates us from our Creator. Our rebellious, selfish nature leads us into trouble but a yielded, humble spirit seeks the truth.

    “Let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.”
    Hebrews 12:1,2

    Onward!
    Cathy

  330. Cathy,

    Yes, if a person is not able to to have extreme discipline with the TV: watch only particular programs at specific times (infrequently), be hyper-vigilant to predictive programming, subliminals and propaganda (even in cartoons, sitcoms, sports and commercials etc), not be mentally affected by flicker-rates and other techniques of mind-control, and not become corrupted by or addicted to any of it, then maybe maybe, maybe, a person can watch it once in awhile to some benefit as long as you don’t waste 6 hours a day watching the damn thing. But the fact is, I don’t know anyone who can do that personally, including myself, so I got rid of mine, don’t watch it and I recommend that people just get rid of their TVs, or at the best, don’t have any service and only use it to watch VHS or DVDs. But even with DVDs, you have to be careful what you watch. I did for awhile, rent a movie every week, but I distinguished between movies that were vehicles for predictive programming and/or propaganda, and others that I believe (usually independent films) that were more strictly art for art’s sake. But even if a filmaker is sincerely trying to do an independent job, the viewer can be influenced by the filmaker’s own programming. So, my opinion is that if you can limit TV viewing to movies, you can benefit from it watching good art and documentaries. You can even benefit from watching predictive programming if you go into it aware of what you are watching, with a notebook on the table to objectively record and analyze the hidden and overt messages the movie tries to implant into the brain. It is a good way to study the Illuminati and their agendas.

  331. PJ,

    as I have said before, I don’t agree with you on these secessionist ideas.

    First of all it’s aproaching the problem from the bottum up, not top down.

    First of all this “New World Order” (which i prefer to call a Disorder because that is what it is) is a global problem. Therefore the solution to it must be based on a global solution. Local solutions are inherently non-solutions.

    So if it is a global problem, then what do we have that is global…
    Well we have a {global financial system}, called the central banking system. And that is exactly what this parasitic entity controls. And if you don’t change that system, to a system free of the control of the parasites, there is no solution. The Matrix idea is an idea originating from the oligarchy. No movie with that kind of budget and outreach is produced and distributed without the oligarchy’s oversight.

    If we do not change the world financial system into a system free of oligarchical control, you can just forget about everything. Civilization as such will collapse, as that is their intent. Because these people are as you have stated earlier, feudalists, and they are controlled by their own fantasies. I guess many of the higher up slaves would call themselves progressive, but their thinking is backward and they are in reality reactionary. As stupid and backward headed they are, most of them believe in their fantasies that what they want to achieve is possible and good. Just like Jehovah’s Witnesses, who are also a bunch of dimwits and a tool of the oligarchy.

    But solutions based on a local thinking are doomed to failure, and are just a gift to the oligarchy, who would relish on having ordinary people help them crush civilization by internal strife and conflicts. Actually they rely on inducing the ordinary people, as the famed lemmings, to selfdestruct by internal fighting. ‘Divide and Rule’ is the name of the game.

    What they fear most is real physical economic development, so they teach you economics as being a question of money and NOT physical economy (also just called economy). So build your maglev trains, nuclear energy plants etc., and they will loose.

    The current reactionary paradigm known as the 68′er counter-culture is directly a creation of the oligarchy. It’s a Tavistock brainwashing operation steered through the Congress for Cultural Freedom, which was an institution created by the international oligarchy with heavy participation of anglo-american intelligence, like MI6 and CIA. The MK-Ultra program was part of this. So basically ‘The Beatles’ were British intelligence operatives, by wit or not, and all modern music is part of the same thing. It’s the rock-drug-sex counter-culture movement.
    You have to go back to the classics to free yourself of this operation! Basically Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Haydn, Schubert and the some few others.

    So in the microcosm you can change yourself to become an agent of change for the macrocosm, to change the entire system top down.

    And the financial collapse going on right now is a make or break historic opportunity for exactly that!

  332. DK,

    If anyone agrees with me 100%, then it’s something to worry about. That is, I appreciate independent thinking which requires people have their own ideas about things, which I am always willing to at least hear out. But I frankly don’t see how you or anyone is ever going to change things from “the top down”. First, it just goes against common sense. If you aren’t in that position in the first place, you will never even begin to have the slightest chance of changing the top level.

    I am not talking about some kind of old-left idea of toppling one power structure and inserting a new one in its place, nor am I talking about what the Ron Paulites call for in “Restoring the Republic”. I am talking about withdrawing from it altogether at the individual, local and yes state/nation level. That means if you secede from the entire system, you get to set up your own system however you want it. That means you can establish your own “hard economy” based on whatever form of exchange you agree on. You then also eliminate the need to “abolish the Fed” or “abolish the IRS” etc, because you simply have nothing to do with it. If this process is followed by state after state, the elite oligarchy will have to collapse because they will no longer be able to parisitically siphon off the fruits of our labors.

    “Matrix” is a very old idea that didn’t come into being with the movie, and for me, has very little to do with the ideas in the movie which is nothing but more mental conditioning for the masses. Matrix is simply very descriptive of the total structure of the environment we as modern humans have grown up in. In fact, I believe it has been in place since ancient times, although its tentacles have only gradually controlled more and more of the earth’s surface until today we see it having the ability to get nearly every country on the planet to inject its citizens with lethal vaccines, promote the gobal warming hoax and feed the flames of the GWOT. So you are actually incorrect in calling it a “disorder”. Maybe from a clinical point of view, it is a “disorder”, a psychopathic disease, but observing the incredible coordination leading up to a global government system that is expanding every year to include more countries under more and more agreements, then you see that they truly are setting up their New World Order in a very orderly way on schedule. What they say they will do, they do it, they get it done because of their vast financial resources and because they can rope in the best and the brightest out of the universities to do their bidding.

    But to make all this happen, to set up global government, they need global pretexts: Global Terror, Global Warming, Global Meltdown, Global Pandemics, one global disaster after another, a series of shocks, “whether real or promulgated” as Kissinger stated, to get the people on their knees begging for the elites to DO SOMETHING. Of course, it isn’t exactly like that because most people don’t react at all and just go along with the flow, but sort of meta-physically and legalistically, the elite must have some sort of consensus or acquiescence from the public on all these issues so that they can proceed, and they do get it from all sectors politically because at the top, all competing sectors are controlled by them. You cannot name a single political network that isn’t, just as you can’t name a single senator who isn’t on board for the NWO. You can try, but I will prove to you the contrary.

    So what this amounts to is Ordo Ab Chao, Order Out of Chaos, the motto of the Masonic Matrix system which is just the old Pharaonic mystery priesthood system (see the pyramid/all-seeing eye on the back of the FRN) brought up to date. And all the top oligarchs, as you call them, are in this mystery system, initiated into it, usually as a matter of family tradition (Windsors control Freemasonry at least at the UGLE level and so on), but also taking in and grafting on newcomers and outsiders of particular talent. So all this is very highly and tightly coordinated, this NWO system, using chaos as shocks to the system, as pretexts for moving forward, because they could never ever tell the public what they were really up to, could they? Well, at a certain point, the public becomes so well trained, so well conditioned and controlled that as Bertrand Russell predicted, their would be no further need to have police and military because they would be like well-behaved sheep in a pen, waiting for slaughter.

    And how the classical, that is the elite, composers, the music that the illuminzed elite have always sponsored and continued to promote, are going to save us, I will never know. Turn on the radio. You have a choice between gansta rap and classical, and maybe some phony “smooth jazz”. Music for the elite and music for the masses. Even though there is a vast collection of music in between, it is seldom played on the radio. THAT is the music that people need to listen to.

  333. Pjwalker 9/11 and Cathy:

    I just brought up Hitchens’ book because it suprised me that he admitted so freely and without any reservation that The Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations influenced/dictated policy, and how he was open to talking about the backdoor deals that Roosevelt and Stalin were making. Or the near fatal merger of the USA and Britain.
    For a mainstream intellectual Hitchens revealed a lot and that’s why I think everyone owes it to themselves to read “Blood Class & Empire.” Hitchens’ book is good for cross referencing with other works, such as Perloff’s “Shadows of Power the Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline”
    And even though I think most of John Coleman’s book on the “Committee of 300″ was bogus, Hitchens’ book to some degree falls in line with it, if you can get past Coleman’s prevarications.
    I know Hitchens is the proverbial flip flopper on many issue such as the Iraq War, but in “Blood Class & Empire” he hits the nail on the head insofar as Britain passing the “Hegemony Torch” over to the USA at the 1945 Yalta Malta meetings.

    As for my exchange with Chomsky, well, I think I probably read into it more than you did. I think Chomsky was double speaking verses just being a “New World Order Shill.” Chomsky works for MIT and we all know that MIT is the US Government’s weapons designing university. So, he’s working on behalf of the Military Industrial Complex. It’s his meal ticket and he’s not going to bite the hand that feeds him. He may just nibble a little though…LOL.

    Now, here’s where I think Chomsky starts to double speak. At one point in our discourse Chomsky says that,
    “Bilderberg seems to be of little significance, as far as anyone knows, though naturally when rich and important people get together something might take place.”
    What I found interesting about that comment was that Chomsky said that “though naturally when rich and important people get together something might take place.”
    What he says here is key because he’s admitting that agendas can transpire at these meetings. Also, what I found amusing was this comment, “As far as I know, there is no legal basis for proceeding against high level officials, corporate executives, and other powerful people who meet in private.”
    Which is a bunch of bullshit on his part…I mean who knows more about national and International laws than Chomsky. I’m sure he’s more than cognizant of the fact that Bilderberg is an illegal gathering under Title 18 U.S.C. § 953 aka the Logan Act.
    But here’s what I found to be true double speak at its most paramount. “We may not like it (in reference to the Bilderberg Trilateral, CFR meetings) but they are within their rights.

    Of course they legally aren’t within their rights as I pointed out to him, but at least he included himself in with “WE” when he said “we may not like it.”
    An intellect such as Chomsky knows the score, but there only so much people like him are going to say or share.
    So, is he covering up for the NWO? Or is he covering his own ass while trying to make a living?
    I think he knows the significance of these think-tanks, he’s just not willing to take them on, which in some cases would make him more so a coward than a NWO Shill.
    But I have to admit I like reading his material because it helps me envisage the big picture.
    No matter what Guys like Chomsky are vital even though we don’t always agree.

  334. Bobo

    I will put Blood Class & Empire on my list to read before the year is out. I do want to know more about the Churchill-FDR-Stalin alliance of Brother Masons, but we already know the Skull and Bones and others among the elite arranged for the Bolshevik Revolution and subsequently funded Stalin and kept Russia alive through the Cold War to keep up this dialectic of perpetual war, because war is transformative and pushes all the globalist agendas forward step by step. Carrol Quigley is another very good source on RIIA CFR etc. There are so many good books to read and so little time though. “Shadows of Power the Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline” sounds good too.

    I personally believe the US has never been separated from Britain, that our “revolution” was only another transformational psyop (as have been WWI and II and yes that once it was sufficiently built up through the Industrial Revolution (and through wars), it’s vast resouces (material and human) would be used to spearhead the next phase of the New World Order Empire system, so then the torch was passed to the US, but it is about to passed to China, the model state of the UN, next. America going down, China going up. This is not by accident.

    MIT is the only school, much less university, that I am aware of which has it’s own Masonic Lodge, the Richard C. Maclaurin “Tech Lodge”. I wonder if ol Chomsky is a member. He is definitely a lifetime member of the Military Industrial Complex for which he acts as a controlled opposition representing the progressive left. I know that he cannot possibly be in such upper eschelons of the Establishment and not know what Quigley knew, that the central aim of the CFR was global government and that it hands policies down to the federal government to implement. Hillary Clinton recently admitted that they “tell us what to do”, or something to that effect. But Chomsky generally maintains the standard “debating society” line of BS. And what kind of person would say that “even if 9/11 was an inside job, it isn’t important”? That is a very bad man in my opinion. Sure, read all his bloody books, but buy them used so he doesn’t profit anymore off them.

  335. I just use Chomsky’s work and others like him such as Greg Palast, Ralph Nader, and Amy Goodman as springboards to explain to people what’s really happening.
    I usually find if I start off with the secret society New World Order truths people get turned off and think I’m as nutty as a chipmunk.

    And believe it or not most Americans never even heard of the Council On Foreign Relations or any of these think tanks and yet they see this shit on tv on a regular bases. It just goes to show you how cognizant we as a collective really are.

    Talking about this stuff to them is like trying to get them to understand why an artist paints what they paint or feels what they feel. They just can’t go there at first. We have to leave a foundation.

    What got me started on the Illuminati or “Corporatocracy” as John Perkins calls it is that after awhile the liberial left wasn’t making any sense. I started to become lost. They would throw names and situations and political nonsense out at you but it would never truly connect. It wasn’t until I listen to Bill Cooper’s speech at Lansing Michigan that I began to understand the scope of what was really going on.
    Anyhow, I do think Hitchens’ book will only add to your arsenal of knowledge. Hitchens is a bright boy who knows the score even though he (like Chomsky) will only take it so far. But like I said at least he had the balls to call out the CFR and the RIIA.

    I agree that Chomsky like many others will only tell so much of the truth before spinning it ,but that’s the way it is. However, the pieces of the puzzle that he gathers does add fuel to the argument. “Hegemony or Survival” and “Failed States” are good books that everyone should read just so they can put the pieces together. I find a lot of times that Conspiracy books and documentaries tend to speculate verses laying out hard facts. Not to dis Anthony J. Hilder, Jim Marrs, or Alex Jones, but sometime the sensational angle leads one into contemplating hyperbole.

    Anyway as soon as I get a chance I’ll e-mail Noam Chomsky at MIT and ask if he’s a member of “the Richard C. Maclaurin Tech Lodge”. I’d like to know the answer to that question myself.

    As for your comment that “the US has never been separated from Britian.” I think is a bit off. I think what really happened was that the US did separate itself from the empire, its just that America let down its guard and thought the “Revolutionary War” was over when in fact Britian never declared defeat and found other ways to infiltrate our republic. When the Revolutionary War failed they countered with the War of 1812, and when they lost that war they then instigated the central banking coup durning Andrew Jacksons presidency. And then they backed the Confederacy during the Civil War. It was sometime after 1865 that Britian (aka the Rothschild banksters) got full control of the United States government with its loans to the patriarchs of American industry such as Gould, Carnegie, and Rockefeller. Just to name a few Tycoons. I’ve purchase “The Tycoons” by Charles R. Morris. I haven’t had the chance to read it yet, but as soon as I do I’ll let you know what’s in it.

    As for Carrol Quigley, reading a book that is at least 1500 pages about stuff I already know at this juncture would be superfluous.

    I’ll also make a note to buy Chomsky’s new book “Hopes and Prospects” used when it comes out in January…LOL!

  336. Hey,

    to get the track straight on Roosevelt and Churchill, you should read Elliott Roosevelts ‘As He Saw It’, a personal account of Elliott traveling with FDR. Giving testimony to the meetings between FDR and Churchill. etc.
    Besides, the British Empire to this day hates even the memory of FDR and his policies. If someone believes that FDR was a friend of Churchill and the British Empire, I think they have got that matter all upside down.
    There is lots of slander against FDR exactly because of that. just look at AEI’s Amity Schlaes!

    I can see why the oligarchy want to promote this myth that they are all powerful with no opposition, nearly as if they were gods. Like the Olympian Zeus and the rest of the Pantheon.

    People are enticed by power, mystery and mysterious symbols and all that crap, so even if they can hate what it represents they in a certain sense bow to it, like to a gods shrine.

    So don’t become lame, but get to know the fine details of things. F.eks., even if someone is a freemason of high degree or whatever, it doesn’t mean that they necessarily are evil or want a world empire and all this. A lot of them just don’t know what they are into. Besides human beings have the capability to change, even those who are inside the ‘New World Disorder’ apparatuses.

    You have to take it from their action’s and not some labels. Elite, not elite or whatever. Many of the so called ‘elites’ are just born into it, and they cannot wave a magic wand and change everything, but they try to do good, also for the sake of humanity, which is why the american constitution reads ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ and NOT ‘life, liberty and property’ or for that sake ‘liberty, equality, fraternity’. Knowledgeable people know what this ‘fraternity’ means!

  337. From the FDR memorial site in Washington DC…

    “They (Who) Seek To Establish
    Systems Of Government Based On
    The Regimentation Of All Human
    Beings By A Handful Of Individual
    Rulers… Call This A New Order.
    It Is Not New And It Is Not Order.”

    http://www.visitingdc.com/images/roosevelt-memorial-washington-dc.jpg

    If you seek anyone against the “NWO” here you have it!

    Why is it not order…?
    Because managed conflict and economic disintegration is NOT order! And {that} is the nature of the feudalist oligarchy.

  338. DK:

    The reason it is called a New World Order is because the Globalist orchestrate their plans from America. They use our military our wealth/resources for world hegemony.

    The definition of the “Old World” is Europe. Europe is the Old World , America is the New. As for the word “Order” their idea of “Order” is Order out of Chaos, which in latin translates “ORDO AB CHAO.”

  339. Bobo,

    As with many Masonic Elite catch phrases, there are multiple meanings. New World Order has at least four or five meanings:

    1. America as “New World” being the spearhead of the NWO after being handed the torch by the British Empire.

    2. New World Order, as new geopolitical order, ie World Government

    3. Order as in a society of initiates (such as in Sovereign Military Order of Malta), but this Order covers the entirety of the elite brotherhood

    4. Ordo Ab Chao: Order out of crisis-creation. Re-ordering human society, culture, laws, economy and even human nature itself.

    5. Manufacturing a New World, that is an updated version for the future.

    I am pretty sure that one could find other meanings to it. You could also look at Order in terms of being a command, ie “the order of the day” which is a “must be”, which must be implemented by the elite by any means necessary and with which the rest of us must comply whether we like it or not.

    And as for FDR somehow being against the NWO, I find that laughable DK. As I will demonstrate shortly.

  340. Yes, according to my research, FDR like most if not all US presidents, was a high level Freemason.

    Among other things, he lied about Pearl Harbor which he knew was a set up to shed much blood to provoke Americans to enter WW2. Very sad and tragic.

    For sure, can’t trust anything he says.

  341. Cathy: if you can get your hands on Anthony J. Hilder’s interview booklet that he made with Col Curtis Dall, FDR’s ex-son in-law you’ll get the whole story on how they orchestrated/manipulated the Japanese .
    I was lucky enough to find a copy in Plymouth Mass.

    PJ:
    It would figure that the Masons would apply it to just about everything.
    So much is happening right now, just the fact that the rightwing of the Vatican (Opus Dei) was involved in the 2002 coup to overthrow Chavez along with NSA and the CIA is not a suprise in its self.
    I just thought I’d throw that one up for anyone who thinks along the lines of Eric John Phelps that its just the Jesuits.

  342. Ha!
    The ‘british’ are not sending the torch on to the US. The oligarchy wants to {destroy} the US as a republic, that’s what it is about. It’s the old method of inducing others to build empires and in that process destroy themselves, for they are only upstarts. Besides, there is no nation-state based empires. The empire is simply anti nation-state. It’s like they induced Napoleon and Hitler to try to build empires, and in that process destroy themselves, and much else with it. Same thing with the US.

    Ordo ab chao doesn’t mean much, it is just like a salestrick. goes like this…

    NWO agent : Don’t you see the world is in chaos? (giving examples)
    Dimwit : Yeah, I see what you mean.
    NWO agent : We need to bring order to the world to make thing better, and ofcourse it must be globally based. This is how we do…
    Dimwit : Oh, I see! Yeah, that’s a good idea. Sure we must take responsibility. I’ll join you.

    And the idea of the US republic was to take responsibility for the world, but here is where the twist is, because the original idea was to {free} the world from empire, not helping creating and enforcing it.
    So the US is induced to go for empire-building instead of nation-building and in that way they self-destruct. Besides there is still only one empire in the world as there is only one financial system, and that is what the empire controls.

    So what FDR is basically saying to NWO minions and potentiates, can be translated into…
    ‘Don’t be a dupe, and buy their ordo ab chao sales-pitch. It’s a lie. ‘

  343. DK

    You’re not looking at the big picture, that it is a corporatocracy at work here.
    Sometimes the higher echelon of the NWO disagree and fight amongst themselves, but when it comes to the common folks…well…we’re considered to be the enemy.
    It’s not about bringing down the US as much as it’s about mirco managing it. That’s why the US, Canada and Mexico along with the Trilateral Commision were discussing the North American Union and the Amero.
    The Elites see themselves as a class all their own. And if you want to continue to idolize Roosevelt…go ahead, but it isn’t going to change what he was and his contribution to the corporatocracy. “The New Deal” is some respects made the American people totally dependent on the Government. It virtually became what we now call “Big Government” …taking away our choice of whether or not we want to pay into FICA .
    The American people should be able to choose whether or not they want to participate in the Social Sercurity program. And the Government has no right spending that money on their little ventures/adventures.
    But that’s what they do…they create these social, economic, and military programs and then loot them…it’s taxation without representation, stealing, and extortion.

    “Ordo Ab Chao” isn’t a sales pitch. It’s their way of life… and we and the people of the thrid and forth worlds are the ones who pay the ultimate price for all of it.

  344. PJWalker9/11:

    I e-mailed professor Chomsky about your question on the MIT Masonic Lodge issue and here what was said:

    Bobo09: “Dear Professor Chomsky:
    My question is are you or have you ever been a member of the Richard C. Maclaurin Masonic Tech Lodge at MIT? If so why, and if not, why not? And what do you think about having a Masonic Lodge on campus?”

    Noam Chomsky: “Never heard of it, I’m afraid, so no opinions.”

    And that’s it. I guess anyone can take that anyway they want.

    I was in the Boston area today and there was a Masonic lodge near Harvard. So their influence is everywhere. But the truth is most people don’t know about it. Many people in academia most likely haven’t a clue either.
    So, does a guy like Chomsky know about this secret society stuff?…Who knows… but from his answer it seems that he has nothing to do with Freemasonry, which is a good thing if he’s telling the truth.
    For now, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. After all he’s been gracious enough to answer my questions that I’ve been throwing at him.

  345. “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum.”

    – Noam Chomsky

    Bobo,

    That’s interesting. Great that you are able to ask questions like that to him and actually get a reply. I didn’t assume he was a member, and it is very possible he is telling the truth about his membership or lack thereof, but it is hard for me to believe he never heard of a masonic lodge on his own campus that he has practically lived in for how many decades?

    Richard C. Maclaurin Lodge A.F.&A.M.
    “The Tech Lodge”
    In the 80 years the Lodge has been in existence, 826 men have become members. Many illustrious names in the history of MIT are on the Lodge’s roster. The second Master was Vannevar Bush, Science Advisor to President Roosevelt during WWII, and author of “As We May Think” — widely regarded as the earliest prediction of the Internet. The list of Masters include other MIT notables such as William Timbie, Bernard Proctor (early research on food irradiation), W. A. Hokanson, Lyman Dawes and Samuel Goldblith. Harold “Doc” Edgerton, inventor of the strobe flash, was also a member.
    http://rcm.masonrypage.org/history-rcm.php

    It’s also surprising to me that this geopolitical genius just can’t figure out how powerful the Freemasons have been all through history in every major country on the planet. Engels, Marx, Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin — ALL masons. And he doesn’t know that? Wow is all I can say.

    Theocracy, technocracy and Chomsky’s democracy
    He also doubted that Freemasons ever had the kind of power that some ascribe to them.
    http://www.justresponse.net/Battams.html

    Not only does he cover up for 9/11, he did the same thing with the JFK assassination:

    Noam Chomsky the Establishment’s Left Gatekeeper Misdirecting You Away from Real Issues
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/cia-analyst-discusses-possible-cheney-911-stand-down-order/

    In his book Rethinking Camelot (Boston: South End Press, 1993), Noam Chomsky challenges the plausibility of all the Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories
    http://spot.acorn.net/JFKplace/09/fp.back_issues/09th_Issue/freemasons.html

    Is he just an old fool that doesn’t know anything about the covert groups behind the Military/Industrial Complex?

    Noam Chomsky – Controlled Asset Of The New World Order
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/noamchomskygatekepper26sep05.shtml

    I don’t think so…

    By the way, I have links to 260 of these covert groupings known variously as secret societies, fraternal and aristocratic orders (that Chomsky has so conveniently overlooked), all working busily night and day for the NWO, on the front page here for anyone to investigate. That’s not to mention the myriads of well-known globalist organizations that he dismisses as debating societies, which Hillary admits tell her what to do.

  346. Again, Chomsky could be ignorant or a disinfo agent, either way we know the real score. I just thought I’d pass on what he said and let everyone decided for themselves.

    As for the JFK assassination…I read somewhere that Chomsky was on an investigative committee, investigating the assassination and at first he thought there were discrepancies, but then he later reneged on it…….I wonder why that is??????…huuummmm.

    I’ll have to try and pull that article up again if I can find it.

    Besides, all of the colleges are controlled by Freemasonry, they have to control what the world thinks and believes that’s the only way of accomplishing their NWO, by educating the masses themselves, serving them a plate of false history, voodoo economics, false political paradigms, misrepresentation of the legal systems in place, which all result in protecting the oligrachs in power.
    The truth is these “SO-CALLED” masters of the universe could lose all their power and influence tommorrow if we the people (the sleeping giant) would wake up and realize that we’ve been hoodwinked for centuries.

  347. “people (the sleeping giant) would wake up and realize that we’ve been hoodwinked for centuries.”

    You got it right there Bobo, that’s the whole point of this blog. It is really a case of the “Emperor’s New Clothes”.

  348. truthseeker7

    Hey PJ,

    What do you know of this guy John Talbot?

    (Here is brief blurb from a Salon article – John R. Talbott is a former investment banker with Goldman Sachs and the author of “The 86 Biggest Lies on Wall Street, “Contagion,” “Obamanomics,” and “The Coming Crash in the Housing Market.”)?

    He seems to be trying to galvanize a grass roots efforts to waken and galvanize the sleeping giant.

  349. Michael Schmidt

    The Knightly Order of St George is another illuminati-based secret organization run in US by Tony Schiena, its GRAND PRIOR. Tony Schiena is a young individual to be a GRAND PRIOR. Research proves links to Knights of Malta, CIA, INTERPOL, BLACKWATER etc …excursions to Baghdad the last few years. Meetings with General Hammond and Grimsley. The Order of St George is a dangerous order linked to Blackwater and other secret groups also operation in Africa – Sudan etc. They should be a high priority on a WATCH LIST!!!!

  350. As Chomsky stated:

    “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum.”

    this Talbott is just another Hegelian operative for the Obamite/Clintonista Third Way. So if he awakens a “sleeping giant” it will only be a dream within a dream, you know, as if you are dreaming, and dream that you are awake. That is how most of the patriot (on the right with Ron Paulism) and progressive (on the left with Chomskyism) movements are operated by the elite who always fund both sides within “the limit of acceptable opinion” allowing “lively debate within that spectrum”.

    That is why people like Ron Paul and John Talbott can appear as “experts” on three different mainstream news outlets every other day of the week.

  351. Michael Schmidt,

    This blog has one of those watchlists as the Secret Society category here will demonstrate with 215 articles so far. I urge truthseekers to investigate more than 260 links to these and other fraternal orders shown in the lower right of the front page. It is, in my opinion, probably the most complete listing of ACTIVE secretive occult groups in the world. I will try to keep an eye on more and more of these elite groups as time goes on.

  352. I don’t know if anyone wants to respond to this comment, but someone needs to write a book about this, or do an on-going documentary television series and get the word out. With google, youtube, and public access tv at our disposal we should be able to make some waves. I know I’m not capable of doing it at least not alone. And it seems many people have tried but missed the mark (in reference to people such as John Coleman, Fritz Springmire, Eric John Phelps and Steve Cokely) but they always manage to throw in their religious beliefs and racism.
    Someone needs to lay down the facts as they are and call these illuminati families out.

    I had a phone conversation with Anthony J. Hilder one night a little over a year ago, and he mentioned that someone needs to write a book about all of this and tell the real story, leaving all of the space alien, reptilian agenda, new-age atlantis, and religious nonsense by the wayside. However, deal with the history of religion and how the Illuminati uses it to control and manipulate the empire.
    I think Jim Marrs came close with his book “Rule by Secrecy” but Marrs spun the story and started an Annunaki tirade at the end of the book. Plus he mentioned the Jesuits in passing and not a word was mentioned about the Opus Dei and many other groups. I understand that he couldn’t possibly mention all of them, but these two groups are linked to most of what’s going on along with the Knights of Malta and the Order of St John.

    So far it seems to me that this blog has come closer to the truth than any other on the internet, and I’ve visited a lot of websites over the years. I just think all of this needs to be compiled somehow.
    Maybe we should all find a way to do that because it would simplify things for mass consumption.
    It’s just something to think about.

  353. Bobo,

    You are completely right about the real story not being told in books, at least not the big picture without spin, although I do appreciate Antony Sutton. What he did was groundbreaking and very truthful, but his focus was on Wall Street and the Skull and Bones. I have not trusted Jim Marrs since his Rule by Secrecy mostly because of the Sitchen spin, same for Icke. and his pet reptiles. I haven’t read Alan Watt’s books, but I think he might come a bit closer to the big picture than anyone else, though he too tends to downplay the Vatican and I have heard him, though he doesn’t seem to be a believing Christian, seems to think that religion is good for the masses, something to keep them moral, which is quite a condescending attitude I think. Alex Jones manages to almost completely ignore and even apologize for the Vatican, plus he filters everything through Christianity as does Coleman. I do not believe in the Christian myth myself. First of all, it goes against common sense, but anyone who is honest can confirm that it is just another pagan astrotheological cult with it’s roots in the ancient world where priesthoods were all-powerful and demanded sacrifice, of body, mind and soul to the Order. The first form of mind-control that still works very well today. Scare the bejesus out of them and they will do whatever you tell them to do.

    Of course, I would like to see as many people as possible getting the bigger picture, so I keep pressing up against all the boundaries, the paradigms within the “acceptable spectrum of debate”, that have been set by the various authors and their particular spin or filters. I want to have zero boundaries, nothing holding me back from the truth, the big picture etc and just let it lead me wherever it goes. Anyway, I am glad Hilder said that to you. Yes, I will make the attempt in the coming months. This blog has eaten up most of my time but soon enough I hope to be publishing something.

  354. PJwalker911:

    I don’t have nearly the knowledge you do about this subject, but if you need any help let me know. I’d love to get involved in exposing the truth for a change.

  355. Bobo,

    From what I gather, you know a bit more about political figures, the CFR, and other organizations than I do, so you could occasionally email me some of your own research and bibliographies, etc to aftermathnews@hotmail.com

    For example, you mentioned several good books to get ahold of a few days back, one or two on the CFR, but I couldn’t find that comment.

  356. PJwalker911

    Here’s a short list of books I think you could use

    Henry S. James “The Blood Bankers”

    James Perloft “The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline”

    Christopher Hitchen’s “Blood Class & Empire Induring the Anglo American Relationship”

    Ralph Nader “The Good Fight” (even though Nader is a Rupert Murdoch shill there’s some useful stuff in that book.)

    Greg Palast “The Best Democracy Money Can Buy”

    Greg Palast “Armed Mad House” (even though Greg works for the BBC and the British Guardian there’s plenty of info in his works as well.)

    Harriet A. Washington “Medical Apartheid”

    Jim Tucker’s “The Bilderberg Diary”

    Robert Dreyfuss “The Devils Game”

    Try those books for starters or let me know what you need from time to time and I’ll see if I can dig it up.

  357. truthseeker7

    speaking of books – have you guys read Ellen Brown’s “Web of Debt” and if so how did you like it? If not, you should. Excellent book!

  358. Thanks for that list Bobo. I will add those toward the top of my reading list, particularly the first three which look the most interesting. I have been spending more time on ancient religion, the mysteries, the occult, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, knightly orders etc lately since I believe this is where the root of it all is (but want to fill in more blanks regarding the CFR, Bilderberg, Anglo-Americanism, Fabianism, Zionism and the like). I am glad to supply some titles on those darker more mysterious subjects for anyone interested.

  359. Truthseeker:

    I heard of that book but I haven’t picked it up yet, but since you recommend it, I’m going to pick it up.

    There’s a new book on Bilderberg called “The Bilderberg Conspiracy” by H. Paul Jeffers. Does anyone know if he’s a reputable author, or is he just shelling old talking points?

    PJwalker911:

    Yeah, it would be great; list the books you have in mind…Thanks.

  360. truthseeker7

    Bobo09,

    It was both “funny” and downright disturbing but I just watched the Bill Maher show Real Time on HBO and he brought up the proposed Ron Paul audit of the Federal Reserve. He had the audacity (is it audacity, true lack of brains or what?) to say that he he knew nothing about the Fed or what they did. I wrote him emails more than 6 months ago asking him to discuss it on his show and I gave him plenty of info to pique his curiosity. Nothing! And now he acts like he still knows nothing. I realize that he’s another shill who only “attacks” the shallow part of the problem and never gets to the heart of things but my god, its such BS.

    Bottom line is that I’m not saying that auditing the Fed will solve our problems but IT is a very important part of the “their” putting us all into slavery via debt! The book Web of Debt does a great job of explaining this.

    Keep up the good fight!

  361. Bobo

    As with any reading selection, the dictum caveat lector applies, especially when dealing with religion and the occult. You aren’t there to absorb the viewpoint of the author, but are there to see what facts you can glean or otherwise confirm from him or her, and then to connect the dots yourself as objectively and throughly as you can. Point being that there is truth in these books that can be assembled into a bigger picture understanding. For example, if you take the best, most truthful positions of David Icke, Alan Watt, Alex Jones, Michael Tsarion, Jim Marrs, Texe Marrs, Terry Melanson, Michael Collins Piper, Eric Jon Phelps and maybe even people like Ron Paul, Hitchens and Chomsky too, and melt away all the extraneous bits that either make no sense, seem to be flitered through their own conditioning, contradictory or downright wrong, then you will definitely arrive at a better understanding than say if you relied only on one or two of them for all your “facts”. This is because you will be seeing all sides of the issue, almost from an aerial viewpoint, instead of the view of a soldier in his trench fighting an Enemy he has been ordered to hate. That is well-understood already by some, but apparently not by most. At any rate, if you read some of these books, you will be far ahead of most people as to the genesis of the NWO out of the ancient mysteries.

    Warning: Some of these books are extremely dry reading to be read in an upright posiiton with a notebook, pen and a strong cup of your favorite stimulating beverage…

    If you only read some of these, I would recommend the first six if you want a deeper understanding about the religio-occult aspect. I guarantee you will connect hundreds of new dots when you put them all together.

    The Secret History of Freemasonry by Paul Naudon

    The Jesus Mysteries by Timothy Freke

    New Atlantis by Francis Bacon (and other major works)

    The Rosicrucian Enlightenment by Frances Yates

    Christ Conspiracy by Acharya S. (DM Murdoch)

    Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike

    Meaning of Masonry by W. L. Wilmshurst

    Politics and the Occult by Gary Lachman

    Sex and Rockets by John Carter

    The Templar Meridians by William F. Mann

    The First Five Lives of Annie Besant by Arthur Nethercot

    Occult Conspiracy Michael Howard

    The Perfectibilists by Terry Melanson

    The Bad Popes by ER Chamberlin

    Republic by Plato

    Invisibles: The True History of the Rosicrucians by Tobias Churton

    The Templar Revelation by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince

    Saucers of the Illuminati by Jim Keith

    The History of Freemasonry by Albert Mackey

    The Empire of “The City” by E. C. Knuth

    Inside the Brotherhood by Martin Short

    The History of Romanism by John Dowling

    The Dying God by David Livingstone

    The Bible by God Himself

    There are so many other books I could recommend and you can see some of them here: http://astore.amazon.com/aftenews-20

    The more you read, the more you know, is all I know….

  362. Truthseeker7:

    Yeah: Maher is just a shill for Viacom who doesn’t know much about anything, he’s just a talkshow host who is good at his job…which is to misdirect people and feed them the BS left/right paradigm that doesn’t really exist.
    It shouldn’t surprise you that he knows nothing about the fed. The fact of the matter is Maher doesn’t know much about anything, he just talks a good game.
    I willing to bet if Sarah Palin was a guest on his show she’d do rings around him considering how vitriolic he was toward her. I’d like to see her put him in his place for shits and giggles…… That’s entertainment.

    PJ:
    That a good list as a matter of fact I have three of the books you mentioned.

    Christ Conspiracy by Acharya S. (DM Murdoch)

    The Bad Popes by ER Chamberlin

    Republic by Plato

    But here’s a few more you might want to add.

    The Decline and Fall Of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon

    The Shadows of Solomon the Lost Secrets of Freemasonry by Laurence Gardner

    Bloodline of the Holy Grail by Laurence Gardner

    Holy Blood Holy Grail by Michael Baigent Richard Leigh & Henry Lincoln.

    From Babel To Dragoman by Bernard Lewis

    Arab Historians of the Crusades by Francesco Gabrieli

    The Druids by Stuart Piggott

    There’s a ton more but try these.

  363. Bobo,

    You are right about Maher, but I think he knows more than he lets on. Very fond of showing that horned hand, like his “hero” Ron Paul. Did you know Palin is of the Spencer bloodlines related to Lady Diana Spencer and is a cousin (distant albeit) to both FDR and George Bush (and I think to Churchill, Gerald Ford, and probably Maurice Strong)? This goes to once more demonstrate that anyone who is thrust into the limelight, at least 9 out of 10 times, has the necessary royal bloodlines for the job, as does Obama through his Irish mother. As Alan Watt likes to say, out heros are given to us. No matter what political stripe you are, they have somebody ready to fill that need for a hero to worship, and they will tell you just what you want to hear and make you think that there is somebody who cares about you and your favorite issues. It has worked for a long time and it still works. People keep voting for “change” and the more they vote, the worse things get. There is a reason for that. And anyone who can get up and be given a platform on mainstream media or on the talk-show circuit including Maher and Glenn Beck is there because they are authorized and approved. There are no exceptions that I have heard of.

    Anyway, glad you are or have read Christ Conspiracy. Jesus Mysteries builds on it, though written by a gnostic believer, still these books present massive irrefutable evidence that the Jesus cult is an extension of previous mystery cults and I believe was chosen by the elites of the day as the astrotheological representative for the Age of Pisces. Now that we are moving into the Age of Aquarius, the elite are planning the demise and destruction of Christianity to be replaced I suppose with some combination of New Age Earth Worship and certainly a worship of Big Government.

    Thanks for the books. I have Piggott’s book, read Bloodline of the Holy Grail, seen most of the others and would be happy to read all of them if I ever find the time.

  364. I know about Palin’s bloodline I just thought it would be entertaining to watch the two of them duke it out that’s all.

    I believe Palin is Diana Spencers cousin removed 10 times (if I’m not mistaken). The truth is all of these people are related to King Henry II of the Plantagenets. I have a book on the Kings and Queens of England as well as the Scottish Highlander clans. I’ll have to dig them out later because the names of the authors of both of those books escapes me at the moment.

    Personally, I don’t believe Diana was a bad person. She was a victim of circumstance. After all she was assassinated (I don’t care what the mainstream media says about it).

    The Christ Conspiracy builds on the newage theme, but if you want a quick read on the subject I suggest reading Jordan Maxwell, Paul Tice, and Alan Snow’s “That All Time Religion,” Acharya S’ theme falls on much of the same line. She and Maxwell are pretty much on the same page.
    I started reading her book awhile ago, but I never finished it because there were other books I was dying to read at the time and I never returned to it. Tariq Ali’s “Clash of Fundmentalism” is another book I left in limbo. I’m hoping to finish that book soon as well.

    My interest insofar as the NWO is concerned lies with the Banksters. I’ll admit I spend way too much time on them and less on the occult side of the subject. I’m actually very weak on the occult arguments because of that reason, which I’m making a effort to change that. Every little bit helps.

    Anyway, Sometimes I hang around this witch craft store a few towns over from me. (Now, just for your information I’m not into the craft) but the books this store carries covers a vast amount of subjects that are worth the read. And I’ll tell anyone if you want to understand the Illuminati go to a witch craft/newage store because you’ll be in for a real education. Just don’t get caught up in it.

    Not to Digress, but the word is out on Youtube that Michael Jackson’s doctor, Dr Conrad Murray is a Freemason. I was watching the News last night and the minute I saw his photo I could feel it in my bones that he was, then today I was on Youtube and one of the videos posted made the same allegation.
    I’m going to look more into this in the coming weeks. Because it will be interesting to see what developes.

  365. Bobo,

    I think it is forth cousin, but makes no real difference. The royal connections are there among most of the politicians, especially presidents who, according to Burke’s Peerage, are always the candidates with the heaviest concentrations of royal bloodlines. They actually “predict” elections based on this. That was why I thought Kerry would win over Bush because he was judged to have more royal blood than even Bush as a descendant of Ivan the Terrible and Vlad the Impaler, but I guess we just weren’t ready for that kind of mayhem, yet.

    I also happen to believe Diana was an exception to the aristocratic rule, a freak almost in her human sensitivity and vulnerability, and that is what endeared her to so many because she was actually human. Imagine that. So I think this is the main reason she had to be bumped off, that she was a loose cannon and could spill the beans about the real activities of the royals. This is the same thing that happened to Dr David Kelly who wasn’t assassinated just for his stand on WMDs and the war. He was privy to the secrets about Porton Down and could tell all about their biowarfare designs on humanity, so that is the main reason this loose cannon had to be eliminated. Too much risk to leave either of them alive.

    Christ Conspiracy is a bit new agey, and Jesus Mysteries is written by a gnostic but again, I just glean books for facts regardless of the author’s particular bent or even spin. If it helps to connect dots, I read it, no matter who wrote it or what motives they had for writing it.

    Clash of Fundamentalism sounds good too. The founder of the Muslim Brotherhood (the theological, mystical and political ground from which al Qaeda was CONTRIVED) just happened to be a Freemason. That goes for a number of Sufi masters closely connected to the Muslim Brotherhood, Salafis and other fundamentalist sects.

    Terrorism and the Illuminati
    http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/

    Islamic Radicals Admit to Masonic Origins
    http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/node/9

    Wahhabism and the Occult Conspiracy
    http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/node/2

    Ibn Taymiyyah and the Occult Roots of Islamic Terrorism
    founder of the Salafi movement was a Jamal ud Din al Afghani, the Grand Master of the Egyptian Freemasons
    http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/node/5

    Qabalah, Freemasonry, the Tijaniyah Order, the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, and Sufism
    http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sufi.html

    The Globalists and the Islamists: Fomenting the “Clash of Civilizations” for a New World Order
    http://www.redmoonrising.com/Ikhwan/MB.htm

    Masonic Origins of The Muslim Brotherhood and Wahabis
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_muslimbrotherhood17.htm

    The Secret Society Behind Al Qaeda
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_middleeast04.htm

    I think studying the mysteries out of Egypt, the Levant and Greece is especially important to understanding the development of the modern religions all really springing from this occult underpinning. I could go on and on about Islam’s occult roots and symbolism, but I won’t right now.

    Michale Jackson was a really very weird guy, also into Crowley. His most fervent wish was to be knighted by the Queen who he absolutely adored. Yuck.

  366. The Muslim Brotherhood Masonic connection came about around 1870. The Founder of the brotherhood was Jamal Ed’dein Al’ Afgani. I can’t recall if he was from Jordan or Arabia, but he was a member of the Royal Scottish Lodge of Freemasonry according to Robert Dreyfus’ book the “Devil’s Game.” That’s one of the books I recommended.

    As for Jackson… He may have learned his lesson and maybe that’s why he might have been killed. like I said I’m pretty sure Dr Conrad Murray is a Mason, but again I’m going to have to look more into it before I can be 100% certain.

  367. Bobo,

    This Jamal-al-Din Afghani seems to have been a forerunner of Hassan al-Banna who is claimed to be the actual founder of the Muslim Brotherhood…..

    Hassan al-Banna
    Hassan al-Banna (October 14, 1906 – February 12, 1949, was an Egyptian social and political reformer, best known for founding the Muslim Brotherhood, one of the largest and most influential 20th century Muslim revivalist organizations. Al-Banna’s leadership was critical to the growth of the brotherhood during the 1930s and 1940s.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_al-Banna

    This is the guy I had in mind as the founder, but maybe there is more to it?? I am still learning about this, so don’t claim to know all the answers.

    From what I gather, Jamal ud Din al Afghani was actually the founder of the Salafi movement which I suppose was the progenitor of the Muslim Brotherhood. Does this all sound right to you?

    Ibn Taymiyyah and the Occult Roots of Islamic Terrorism
    founder of the Salafi movement was a Jamal ud Din al Afghani, the Grand Master of the Egyptian Freemasons
    http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/node/5

  368. According to the links below, Dr Conrad Murray became a Freemason 3 years ago. “His friends say this new network galvanized his growing side business.” I bet it did.

    http://houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com/photo-gallery/

    http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/blog/?p=307

    Freemasonry = witchcraft with a bow on it. Their alligence is to the brotherhood, over and above the law, no matter what they tell you. They are lied to and so they learn to lie quite well to cover their tracks and keep their secrects. They are deceived and they deceive others.

    My great grandfather was a high level Freemason and I shudder to think what he did and the vows he made to rise to the 32nd degree.

    In all your reading, be sure to check out ‘The Deadly Deception: Freemasonry Exposed by One of It’s Top Leaders’ by Jim Shaw and Tom McKenney

    “Jim Shaw was one of the highest ranking Freemasons to ever defect to Christianity. Billy Graham took part in Rev. Jim Shaw’s 33rd Degree Masonic initiation. This was before Shaw left the Lodge for Christ. Only 33rd Degree Masons and candidates participate in that initiation. Jim Shaw refers to Billy Graham’s presence at this Masonic ritual on page 104 of his book co-authored with Tom McKenney titled ‘The Deadly Deception’ Lafayette, LA: Huntington House, Inc. 1998. Huntington House refused to print this book unless they took out Billy Graham’s name and substituted it with a general description on page 104 (‘internationally prominent evangelist’). Before Jim died he confirmed this fact to many people.”

  369. PJwalker911

    I was going by what I read in the “Devil’s Game” by Robert Dreyfus. And according to him The Muslim brotherhood’s origins stem in the 1870′s and it was the CIA, Allen and John Foster Dulles who reconstituted them in the 1950′s, while Citi Bank and Chase Manhattan along with some Arab banks financed them. The Brotherhood (according to Dreyfus) is what spawned the Muhijahdeen, the Taliban, and Al’ Qaida. I’m not saying that Dreyfus is correct, but it seems to be the most logical story in my opinion.

    And Cathy thanks for the links. Because I’m certain that Michael Jackson was murdered by the Masons. The question I have is why?

  370. Bobo,

    Dryfus is probably about right. It’s just a matter of semantics maybe since the Muslim Brotherhood that we know about today was founded by al Banna, whereas the Salafi movment (which was the pan-Islamic Muslim brotherhood of that time), upon which the Muslim Brotherhood seems to be based, was founded by al Afghani. And both of them were brother Masons. I should read that book though.

    Here is something that might be of interest to you on Jackson:

    Illuminati, Music Industry and Why Michael Jackson was Killed
    http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=7381

  371. Freemason update:

    William J. Bratton, the former NY police commissioner who is now resigning as LA chief of police to work for a private company is a Freemason and on September 11, 2009, he will be awarded with the honourary title of Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II.

    Like the date?

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/05/los.angeles.chief.resigns/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/04/nyregion/04masons.html?_r=1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Bratton

  372. Cathy

    Excellent find. All the top police brass are members of F.O.P. which is just another portal into the real masonry. Oddly enough, he is a Catholic which means he isn’t supposed to be a mason, but I could give a number of examples of high and mighty types who are both, including Catholic priests. Yes, they like their numerological dates. Now this guy was one of Sir Giuliani’s boys (also knighted for his academy award winning performance on 9/11) but only until 1996. Having trouble locating him on 9/11. Any info on that? There seems to be a mysterious gap in his bio (most places I look) between 96 and 2002. But there is this:

    From 1996 until his service in Los Angeles, Chief Bratton worked in the private sector, forming his own consulting business, The Bratton Group, LLC. The Bratton Group worked on four continents, and its efforts included extensive consulting work in South America. Chief Bratton also provided consulting services to Kroll, Inc., overseeing the monitoring team that assisted in implementing the Federal Consent Decree with the LAPD.
    http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090805006177&newsLang=en

    “And Mr. Savini points out that the eye on the dollar bill is not really a Masonic symbol. We use the eye,” he said, “but opticians use the eye.” What the…haha, that was a good one…typical masonic misdirection.

  373. Bingo!

    I too was wondering where the man was on 9/11 and just found this:

    “AIG awarded Larry Silverstein BILLIONS of dollars for the destruction of the entire World Trade Center complex. Kroll Associates is a subsidiary of AIG. Kroll Associates was in charge of security at the entire World Trade Center complex from 1993 through September 11, 2001. Kroll Associates is currently ‘consulting’ the LAPD over its entire operations. LAPD Chief William Bratton was working for Kroll Associates on September 11, 2001. The Queen of England is awarding Chief William Bratton as a member of the British Empire at the British Embassy in Washington D.C. on September 11, 2009. On September 11th. Chief William Bratton is another treasonous 9-11 criminal.”

    Posted June 13, 2009
    http://wacla.org/2009/06/13/aig-cheats-police-and-fireman-lapd-chief-william-bratton-works-for-aig/

  374. Speaking of Roman Catholics… I just posted the links to a couple of interesting books which can be read online:

    Fifty Years in the Church of Rome by Charles Chiniquy
    http://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/2009/08/fifty-years-in-church-of-rome-by.html

    The Vatican’s Holocaust by Avro Manhattan
    http://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/2009/08/vaticans-holocaust-by-avro-manhattan.html

  375. Wow Cathy, you have nailed that dirty bastard right there. That’s it, I remember now about Kroll. Yes he was involved in security as was Bush bro Marvin P. And who gets billions in bailouts after the economy takes a dive in the years following the 9/11 psyop? AIG of course. Such a sweet deal for them all isn’t it?

  376. Speaking of Masonic Catholics like Bratton:

    THE CHURCH OF ROME & FREEMASONRY
    THE VATICAN’S OPEN BUT FALSE POLICY ON MASONRY & THE ROMAN CHURCH
    http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/masonic-catholic-priest-at-piazza-del-gesu-grand-lodge-of-italy-in-rome/

    Italian priest joins Masons
    An Italian Paulist priest has become a member of the Masons, joining the group in a ceremony attended by about 40 people at the Masonic headquarters at Piazza del Gesu in Rome. Father Rosario Francesco Esposito dismissed the Church ban on membership in the Masonic lodge, saying that it is “a thing of the past.” The move by the 85-year-old Father Esposito is particularly interesting because he, along with Father Giovanni Caprile, SJ, was once commissioned by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to study the Church’s teaching on masonry.
    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=49344

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  378. In Explosive Allegations, Ex-Employees Link Blackwater Founder to Murder, Threats!!!!!

    In sworn statements, two ex-employees claim Blackwater’s owner, Erik Prince, murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. One also charged Prince “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe.” We speak with investigative journalist and bestselling author Jeremy Scahill, who broke the story for The Nation magazine. [includes rush transcript]

    AMY GOODMAN: Murder, destruction of evidence, weapons smuggling, corruption—those are just some of the explosive allegations made by two former employees of the private military contractor formerly known as Blackwater. The claims were made in sworn statements filed on August 3rd in federal court in Virginia.

    The two men claim Blackwater’s owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. One also alleges that Prince, quote, “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe,” and that Prince’s companies, quote, “encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life.”

    The identities of the two men, a former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company, were sealed out of concerns for their safety.

    In their testimony, both men also allege that Blackwater was smuggling weapons into Iraq. One of the men alleges Prince turned a profit by transporting “illegal” or “unlawful” weapons into the country on Prince’s private planes. They also charge Prince and other Blackwater executives destroyed incriminating videos, emails and other documents and have intentionally deceived the US State Department and other federal agencies.

    The allegations and a series of other charges are contained in sworn affidavits, given under penalty of perjury, as part of a seventy-page motion by lawyers for Iraqi civilians suing Blackwater for alleged war crimes and other misconduct.

    Blackwater now operates under the name Xe, spelled X-E. We contacted the company about the allegations, but they didn’t return our calls.

    Investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill broke the story in The Nation magazine yesterday. Jeremy is the author of the bestseller Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army. His writing and reporting is also available at RebelReports.com. He is a twice George Polk Award-winning reporter. He joins us in our firehouse studio.

    Welcome to Democracy Now!

    JEREMY SCAHILL: Thanks, Amy. Nice to be here.

    AMY GOODMAN: So, just lay it out. What is it that you discovered? What is this lawsuit all about?

    JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, you know, there are two major investigations happening of Blackwater right now. One of them is being conducted by the Department of Justice for crimes committed by Blackwater over a wide range of years in Iraq. And five Blackwater operatives have been indicted on criminal manslaughter charges; they face thirty-five charges in all for their role in the Nisoor Square shooting, the single-greatest massacre of Iraqi civilians by a private force that we know of in Iraq. A sixth Blackwater operative, a guy named Jeremy Ridgeway, pled guilty to one count of manslaughter and then another, a lesser count, and is cooperating now with federal authorities.

    The second investigation is being done by civilian attorneys, so to speak. A private lawyer named Susan Burke has been a pitbull in going after Blackwater for a number of shootings of civilians and others in Iraq. She’s working with the Center for Constitutional Rights, is suing Blackwater in five separate lawsuits in the Washington, DC area.

    And so, what we have here are two affidavits that are sworn, under penalty of perjury, by one former Blackwater employee who, I’ve learned from sources, was actually a member of Blackwater management and had knowledge of Blackwater’s inner workings and operations. The other, as you stated, was a Marine who was honorably discharged and then took up employment with Blackwater as a security operator inside of Baghdad, and Iraq, in more general. Their two statements were submitted late Monday night in a federal court in the Eastern District of Virginia as part of a motion that Susan Burke and the Center for Constitutional Rights submitted, trying to stop Blackwater from having these cases dismissed. There’s going to be a hearing on Friday in this federal court, in Judge Ellis’s courtroom.

    And these declarations, Amy, are stunning, in the sense that it’s the first time that we really see insiders at Blackwater alleging a direct role by Erik Prince, the sole owner and the founder of the company, potentially in either murdering someone who was cooperating with federal authorities or was intending to cooperate with federal authorities—talking about in the criminal investigation here of Blackwater—or he helped facilitate the murder of these individuals.

    In the motion that was filed by Susan Burke on Monday, she says that under state law in Virginia, under state law in North Carolina, and under federal law in the United States of America, Erik Prince could be criminally charged with murder for his role in the killing of Iraqis, specifically, but not exclusively, because of the aspect here that he viewed himself as a crusader with a mission to essentially kill or, in the words of one of the former Blackwater people, “eliminate” Muslims and wage war on Islam globally, that Erik Prince was aware that he was sending men—in fact, he was intending to send men to Iraq that he knew were going to be reckless in their use of force.

    He provided them, according to these individuals, with weapons that were unauthorized for use by the State Department. One of them says he was smuggling them in wrapped in sort of cellophane on his private airplanes, bringing them into Iraq. John Doe number one, the former Marine, witnessed, he says, weapons being taken out of dog food bags that had been brought into Iraq by Blackwater. Blackwater has a huge canine division, so—and I had heard this also from other Blackwater employees.

    But what’s interesting is that they wouldn’t go on the record because of fear—and I’ve heard this for years—of either violence from Erik Prince’s management team or of being pursued monetarily by Blackwater. These are very explosive charges. To hear the words “murder” and “Blackwater” in the same sentence is not a shock to anyone who knows anything about what they’ve been doing in Iraq. To read, though, Erik Prince’s direct role in it and knowing that he micromanages everything in that company, these are explosive developments.

    AMY GOODMAN: His background? I mean, the allegation that he views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe?

    JEREMY SCAHILL: Right. Erik Prince used to—you know, he said once that people that say those kinds of things about him don’t know anything about religion. Well, the fact is that if you look at Erik Prince’s life history, this is a kid who was sort of the crown prince of the radical religious right, if you look at it; not to be funny on words here, but Erik Prince was, in a way, the crown prince. His father, Edgar Prince, was one of the kingpins of the financial network that created the radical religious right. His dad, Edgar Prince, gave the seed money to Gary Bauer to start the Family Research Council; James Dobson, Focus on the Family. Close family friend of the Princes is Chuck Colson, who was Nixon’s hatchet man during Watergate and now has emerged to be one of the most powerful evangelical leaders in the United States, an adviser to President Bush.

    Young Erik Prince interns at the George H.W. Bush White House but says it’s not conservative enough for him, so he backs Pat Buchanan’s insurgency campaign. Erik Prince converted to Catholicism, my sources tell me, because he wanted to be closer to the true tradition of the Church and to the Crusades. And then you have this individual serving in the military, leaving the Navy Seals then to start a private military training company, that once the so-called war on terror is launched by President Bush, a candidate who Erik Prince gave tremendous money to and his whole network funded—they were all Bush Pioneers—Bush then launches a war that he describes as a “crusade,” invading not one, but two Muslim countries, and putting Erik Prince and his private force of neo-crusaders at the vanguard of that occupation, guarding all of the senior people that Bush deployed in those countries to be his point men. Blackwater, effectively, under the Bush years, operated as an armed wing of the Bush administration, and now we know from employees that there, in fact, was a perception within the company that Erik Prince viewed himself as a crusader in a war against Islam.

    The last point I’ll make on this is that what we also understand from John Doe number one is that these individuals inside of Iraq, the Blackwater operatives, some of them used call signs, identifying names, nicknames, that were taken from the realm of the Knights of the Templar, the original Crusaders, the warriors who fought the Crusades. And this is a very, very, I think, unsurprising development, in the sense that we’ve known many of these things about Erik Prince, but stunning to see it coming from insiders at Blackwater in sworn statements under penalty of perjury.

    AMY GOODMAN: Other allegations in the documents, Prince’s North Carolina operations had an ongoing wife-swapping and sex ring?

    JEREMY SCAHILL: Yeah. I mean, I—you know, I had heard these allegations. I think the first time I heard something of that nature was in 2006. One of—this is something that comes from just one of the individuals, the one identified as John Doe number two. And John Doe number two says that it caused so much trouble at the company that Erik Prince—among the staff, because of the wife-swapping operation—that Erik Prince actually asked one of his senior executives, Joseph Schmitz, to conduct an investigation. There’s no further information on it.

    Interestingly, Joseph Schmitz, speaking of the Christian stuff, was—Christian supremacist stuff—was Donald Rumsfeld’s Pentagon inspector general, was in love with Donald Rumsfeld, while he was supposed to be monitoring his conduct, and then leaves the Pentagon to go work for one of the contractors he was supposed to be overseeing. Joseph Schmitz is a radical, militant, right-wing Catholic, who once wrote a letter to the Washington Times about abortion, referring to himself as a former fetus, and therefore he understands the issue of abortion, because he’s a former fetus. He also is a member of the Knights of Malta and is an avowed Christian supremacist.

    AMY GOODMAN: We’re talking to Jeremy Scahill, award-winning investigative journalist, who has just exposed this story. Now, we asked Blackwater—well, it’s now called Xe—to join us on the broadcast; they didn’t get back to us. But they did respond to Scott Horton, who wrote a piece in The Daily Beast.

    The Xe spokesperson stated, “The brief filed by Plaintiffs includes two anonymous affidavits that state their ‘information’ has been provided to the Justice Department—we can gauge the credence given to those statements, which hold no water.”

    Xe goes on to say, “When the indictments were announced, the [United States] attorney made a point of stating [that] ‘[t]he indictment does not charge or implicate Blackwater Worldwide’; ‘[i]t charges only the actions of certain employees for their roles in the September 16 shooting.’ He emphasized [that] the indictment was ‘very narrow in its allegations’: ‘Six individual Blackwater guards have been charged with unjustified shootings… not the entire Blackwater organization in Baghdad. There were 19 Blackwater guards on the… team that day…. Most acted professionally, responsibly, and honorably. Indeed, this indictment should not be read as accusation against any of those brave men and women who risk their lives as Blackwater security contractors.’”

    And the statement ends by saying, “It is obvious that Plaintiffs have chosen to slander Mr. Prince rather than raise legal arguments or actual facts that will be considered by a court of law. We are happy to engage them there.”

    JEREMY SCAHILL: Right. Well, I mean, first of all, anyone who knows anything about federal criminal investigations and grand juries knows that there can, at any given time, be multiple grand juries. Yes, it’s true that there was a grand jury that ultimately produced indictments of five Blackwater individuals over the Nisoor Square shooting. But, as a source that I have within the US Justice Department told me, there can always be other grand juries. So just because that was the outcome of that particular grand jury does not mean that there’s not a grand jury sitting right now. In fact, when I called the US attorney in—the US attorney’s office in Washington, DC, working on this story, they said to me that they could not confirm or deny any action they may or may not be taking against uncharged individuals, and also said that, you know, “To be clear here, there was a grand jury there, but it doesn’t mean that there’s not a grand jury; we just can’t confirm or deny a grand jury.” So, you know, Blackwater is kind of playing with the facts there and playing with how the process actually works.

    The reality is that we understand from the very pro-Blackwater book that was written by CNN executive producer, with Erik Prince’s cooperation, that Gary Jackson, the president of the company, has received some form of a target letter from the Department of Justice. And there’s a buzz going on right now in the circles of folks who follow this closely that there are more indictments of Blackwater figures that are going to be forthcoming. Whether or not Prince is going to be indicted is a totally different story. I do know, though, Amy, from talking to folks on Capitol Hill, that there is great interest in the Intelligence Committee and the Oversight Committee to pursue the allegations laid out by these two individuals in these sworn affidavits.

    AMY GOODMAN: Finally, Obama’s overall policy around private contractors, the military contractors?

    JEREMY SCAHILL: Right. I mean, I watched your interview with Henry Waxman, and I give him credit for the work that he did on this. I mean, he was on Blackwater’s case from 2003 until his role at the Oversight Committee ended and he moved on to Energy and Commerce. And Waxman and Jan Schakowsky and others, Dennis Kucinich, fought hard to try to have these kinds of forces banned for use by the US government abroad. They wanted all these jobs to be done by the US military. They lost in that battle.

    Ironically, Hillary Clinton, as a senator, was the single most important US political figure to call for a ban of Blackwater and actually co-signed legislation with Bernie Sanders, Jan Schakowsky and a handful of others to try to end the use of these kinds of mercenary forces. Now Hillary Clinton is guarded by these very forces as Secretary of State and has not moved to end their use.

    In fact, Obama, in Afghanistan, is expanding the use of these forces by 29 percent in the second quarter of this year, and it continues to grow. The Washington Post just had—did a big story about how the number of private forces is swelling, as the US troop levels grow in Afghanistan. In Iraq, they continue to play a very, very significant role. And I think that it’s important to note, Blackwater continues to do business with the federal government under Barack Obama. That should be a scandal on Capitol Hill, particularly in light of these allegations that have come forth. There needs to be congressional investigations once again.

    AMY GOODMAN: Jeremy Scahill, award-winning investigative journalist, author of the bestseller Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army. His latest article is online at thenation.com.

  379. Erik Prince turns out to be part fanatic Christian Crusader, part Nazi, part CIA operative, part mercenary, part mafia don, part pirate, and part pscyhopathic Manson-like murder orchestrator…. same M.O. as the Knights of Malta. I’m, surprised they haven’t arranged for Scahill’s sudden demise, but I suppose they are planning it.

    Here is material for a book or two on absolute corruption if anyone is game:

    The Knights Templar, Knights of Malta and Blackwater’s Erik Prince
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/the-knights-templar-knights-of-malta-and-blackwater%e2%80%99s-erik-prince/

    Blackwater mercenaries referred to themselves as Knights Templars on a “crusade to wipe out Muslims”
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/blackwater-mercenaries-referred-to-themselves-as-knights-templars-on-a-crusade-to-wipe-out-muslims/

    Blackwater Chief is a Super Villain: Ex-Employees
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/blackwater-chief-is-a-super-villain-ex-employees/

    Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/blackwater-founder-implicated-in-murder/

    Blackwater guards still at work in Iraq despite lacking license to operate
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/blackwater-guards-still-at-work-in-iraq-despite-lacking-license-to-operate/

    Obama’s Blackwater? Chicago Mercenary Firm Gets Millions for Private “Security” in Israel and Iraq
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/obamas-blackwater-chicago-mercenary-firm-gets-millions-for-private-security-in-israel-and-iraq/

    Knights of Guernsey County: Residents alarmed by new Templar urban warfare training camp for police, military and mercenaries
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/knights-of-guernsey-county-residents-alarmed-by-new-knights-templar-urban-warfare-training-compound-for-police-military-and-mercenaries/

    Xe – Blackwater Sued for Drunken Killing of Iraqi VP’s Guard and Cover Up
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/xe-blackwater-sued-for-drunken-killing-of-iraqi-vps-guard-and-cover-up/

    The Obama Administration’s New Deal for Blackwater
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/the-obama-administration%e2%80%99s-new-deal-for-blackwater/

    Xe tries to leave history of Blackwater behind as transformation cuts top 2 executives
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/xe-tries-to-leave-history-of-blackwater-behind-as-transformation-cuts-top-2-executives/

    Scandal-Ridden Blackwater Changes Name to ‘Xe’
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/scandal-ridden-blackwater-changes-name-to-%e2%80%98xe%e2%80%99/

    Blackwater Guards Immune Under Law, Pentagon Says
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/blackwater-guards-immune-under-law-pentagon-says/

    Saudis, Blackwater among Clinton foundation donors
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/saudis-blackwater-among-clinton-foundation-donors/

    Blackwater Guards Arrested In Utah For Massacre In Iraq
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/blackwater-guards-arrested-in-utah-for-massacre-in-iraq/

    New Blackwater Iraq Scandal: Guns, Silencers and Dog Food
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/new-blackwater-iraq-scandal-guns-silencers-and-dog-food/

    Blackwater faces fine for illegally shipping arms to Iraq
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/blackwater-faces-fine-for-illegally-shipping-arms-to-iraq/

    Perpetual War is Blackwater’s Disneyland
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/perpetual-war-is-blackwater%e2%80%99s-disneyland/

    Blackwater’s Private CIA
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/blackwaters-private-cia/

    US gives immunity to Blackwater guards who killed 17 Iraqis
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/us-gives-immunity-to-blackwater-guards-who-killed-17-iraqis/

    Blackwater sprayed US troops with dangerous gas from black helecopter
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/blackwater-sprayed-us-troops-with-dangerous-gas-from-black-helecopter/

    Blackwater guards shot NY Times’ dog dead
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/blackwater-guards-shot-ny-times-dog-dead/

    Knights of Malta rejects alleged link to military action
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/knights-of-malta-rejects-alleged-link-to-military-action/

    Blackwater in Baghdad: “It was a horror movie”
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/blackwater-in-baghdad-it-was-a-horror-movie/

    Blackwater guards pumped on steroids and other “judgment-altering substances”
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/blackwater-guards-pumped-on-steroids-and-other-judgment-altering-substances/

    The empire’s operatives exposed: The Krongards, 9/11, and Blackwater/Iraq
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/11/21/the-empire%e2%80%99s-operatives-exposed-the-krongards-911-and-blackwateriraq/

    Brother of State Dept. Official Linked to Blackwater
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/brother-of-state-dept-official-linked-to-blackwater/

    Blackwater’s impunity
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/blackwaters-impunity/

    ‘Hole’ in law shields Blackwater employees
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/hole%e2%80%99-in-law-shields-blackwater-employees/

    Blackwater could be branded as ‘enemy combatants’
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/us-debates-if-security-contractors-are-enemy-combatants/

    Blackwater deliberately killed 17 civilians in Iraq according to investigators
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/10/07/blackwater-deliberately-killed-17-civilians-in-iraq-according-to-investigators/

    Blackwater: Hired Guns, Above the Law
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/09/22/blackwater-hired-guns-above-the-law/

    Making a killing: how private armies became a $120 billion global industry
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/09/22/making-a-killing-how-private-armies-became-a-120-billion-global-industry/

    Blackwater manager blamed for 2004 massacre in Fallujah
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/blackwater-manager-blamed-for-2004-massacre-in-fallujah/

  380. Erik Prince may say he’s a Christian but the fruit of his life and of Blackwater say not.

    This link has several articles etc I’ve posted on Blackwater over the past few years: http://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/search?q=blackwater

    Praying for Truth to be revealed, lies exposed, the deceived tp wakeup, the sinner repent, the lost find salvation and the Lord Jesus Christ be glorified.

  381. For anyone who is interested:

    Nomi Prins’ new book “It Takes a Pillage: Behind the Bailouts, Bonuses, and Backroom Deals from Washington to Wall Street ” will be released September 29th.

    As far as I can see this book delivers the real dirt on what went on with all of this bailout nonsense.

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  383. Well just a little report from here.

    As I have known for some time and referred to earlier here the WWW is the most elite NGO , and was founded by the three nazi’s Prince Bernard, Prince Philip and Julian Huxley.
    But also interesting is the 1001 club that was created to get upstart and later operational funding for the WWF. I found this site having photo copies of the lists of members of the 1001 natures club, and i must admit i do regard the list as genuine although i of course really don’t know.
    Anyway going through the list and comments about many of the important characters was quite interesting. Besides the WWF’s nature parks also shows the horiffic agenda of these degenerates.

    Most importantly though, this fascist green agenda spread by these nazi’s, including the insane CO2 hoax, needs to be exposed and crushed!

    If you haven’t been there already, follow this link…
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_1001club01.htm

    If ever you thought industrial progress, big infrastructure projects and science and technological advancement was the agenda of the British Empire oligarchy (New World Disorder), … think twice!!

    Have Fun!
    DK

  384. Right DK,

    All of these heads of the hydra are linked back to the same beastly body. I have listed hundreds of them on the front page and I am convinced that at the top, even though some appear to have different agendas such as Left vs Right or Christian vs Satanic, Catholic vs Freemasonic, etc you will find they all cooperate toward the same agenda at the top of the pyramid. I’m printing that out right now and will try to read it soon. Thanks! Every little bit adds to our total knowledge base.

  385. “Guards Allege “Deviant” Sexual Misconduct at Kabul Embassy
    More details have emerged on the lurid allegations surrounding the private military firm hired to guard the US embassy in Afghanistan. The firm, ArmorGroup America, has come under scrutiny after twelve guards came forward describing unauthorized armed missions in Kabul, security lapses and lewd behavior. On Wednesday, one of the guards said employees were forced to perform “deviant sexual acts” in order to gain promotions. The guard said company managers were not only aware of the acts but encouraged them. Danielle Brian of the Project on Government Oversight said employees were punished for not taking part.”

    Danielle Brian: “This involves supervisors. It’s not just a bunch of guys who are blowing off steam. It’s supervisors who are really sort of predatory, who are engaging young recruits into this really weird, deviant behavior. And if they refuse or complain about later, they’re retaliating against them. So it’s way more than just a party.”

    The State Department says it’s investigating ArmorGroup’s $189 million annual contract.

    All I can say is that this looks like a gay Illuminati ritual similar to Abu Ghraib.

  386. Yup, looks like a poor man’s Bohemian Grove with bonfires, male strippers, and buttshots… or the Gay Hillbillies? I was going to get to that, maybe later…lately connecting the dots with Anna Politkovskaya, Beslan, etc.

    If anyone hasn’t read the 1001 Club article, it is very very well researched and includes quite a bit on SMOM etc. Highly recommended reading.

  387. ummm…WHY would Rothschild, who was a JEW be a Knight of Malta if, as you claim, it is the private army of the Pope?

  388. This is a pretty amazing statement, yet you give absolutely NO source for it: “Former Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Edward Schmitz quit in 2005 to work for Blackwater. He is a member of Opus Dei and Knights of Malta. At least $2 trillion went “missing” from the Pentagon during his watch”

    ALSO — For many, many, many years, Catholics were FORBIDDEN to become Freemasons — I was born in the 1950s and this was certainly what I was always taught.) I have a Catholic friend who has just become a Mason (he has a Purple Heart and Bronze Star from his service in Afghanistan) and when I asked him about this, he just waved it away and said that’s not true. When did it change? I was always taught that Freemasonry was “Protestant” and that Catholics were Knights of Columbus…

  389. If you exepct anyone to take any of this seriously, then it would be extremely helpful if you would actually CITE the sources that you claim say all these things, such as this one:

    In fact, Obama, in Afghanistan, is expanding the use of these forces by 29 percent in the second quarter of this year, and it continues to grow. The Washington Post just had—did a big story about how the number of private forces is swelling, as the US troop levels grow in Afghanistan.”

    PLEASE SUPPLY the date and page number when the article you cite was published, along with the journalist/author, if it was listed.

  390. sfinsf,

    Re:

    “In fact, Obama, in Afghanistan, is expanding the use of these forces by 29 percent in the second quarter of this year, and it continues to grow. The Washington Post just had—did a big story about how the number of private forces is swelling, as the US troop levels grow in Afghanistan.”

    You should cut back on the nitpicking and the caffeine. This is after all just part of a comment.

    This last question (or demand) should be addressed to BoBo09 // August 10, 2009 at 5:19 am, but I will answer it anyway.

    The answer, which is incredibly easy to look up yourself is this:

    In Explosive Allegations, Ex-Employees Link Blackwater Founder to Murder, Threats
    http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/5/in_explosive_allegations_ex_employees_link

    The date is August 5, 2009 and there is no page number because it is a transcript all on one page. The person being interviewed is Jeremy Scahill.

    Are you not familiar with the internets?

    Don’t worry, I will get to your other objections as soon as I have the time…and I will answer each and every point. So be patient.

    Meanwhile, I suggest you read through the dozens of reference links provided for your enlightenment throughout and at the bottom of the article. Then try doing some of your own research as I recommended giving you all the key words necessary to keep you busy for months connecting the dots, studying the structure of the New World Order.

  391. Dan Brown’s got a new fictional book out about the Freemasons. If it’s any worse/boring as the Da Vinci Code was then this won’t a treat.

    Anything to promote Masonry these days.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090915/ap_en_ot/us_books_brown_masons

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  393. Yes it is turning into a Masonic PR campaign. So the public goes from almost total ignorance of the Masonic Matrix to total acceptance overnight “Ooh honey, take my picture in front of Albert Pike’s statue. I wonder what the ’33 Ordo Ab Chao’ stands for…heeheeheehee”. Same idea with microchipping PR. The public goes from denial “oh they would never do that!” to complete compliance “oh, I want to get my whole family chipped just in case the terrorists come to town”, blah, blah, blah almost overnight, bypassing all reason and reflection, all questioning tossed aside in favor of stupification.

  394. You are right, couragous, and probably marked for assassination, which I’m sure you know, and accept. This is one of the VERY BEST sites for this info I’ve seen. I have put you in my links so those who come to my site will have access to your research. Please recommend these books to your followers:
    “The Secret History of the Jesuits” by Edmond Paris, and “50 Years in the Church of Rome” by Charles Chiniquy, and “The Two Babylons” by Alexander Hislop- all available for free on-line for download!

  395. Oh yeah, I am sure I am on several blacklists. That’s what happens when you tell the truth. A lot of elitist SMOM, St John knights, templars and freemasons come foaming at the mouth at my impudence in suggesting they are all involved in the the NWO, but to hell with them. It’s time for the common people to stand up and reclaim the world. Obviously, they are not going to just step aside and let us have it, so there will be blood spilt, including possibly my own. I do plan to live to a ripe old age and would prefer that, but I do accept that I could get Bill Cooper-ed at any moment and would be glad to join his company. Bill Cooper was one of the greatest truth-tellers of all, one of the first to expose SMOM. And he did tell the truth about Alex Jones (who defends SMOM) which few are willing to do today. Maybe that’s what got him killed because he was just getting started, and we can only imagine what damage he would have done to Jones, had he been allowed to live on. So he had to be eliminated so that the opposition could be neutralized under Jone’s control. Today, the vast majority of “patriots” are under his spell and will fanatically deny either he or Ron Paul have anything to do with the NWO.

  396. PJWalker91.
    I agree totally about Cooper. I believe he came closer to the truth than anyone even though I didn’t agree with everything he said in his book “Behold a Pale Horse.” Some of the stuff I found a bit far fetched, such as MJ-12 and his contemplations about Adam Weishaupt being a myth concocted by the Masons I thought were unfounded claims. And If you read Seth Payson’s “Proof of the Illuminati” you’ll see where I’m going with that point of view because Payson details how Weishaupt aka Sparticus started the Illuminati.

    But what I liked the most about Cooper was that he was willing to analyze all the possiblities. Even the outrageous subjects.

    Also I’ve come to the conclusion (just like you) that Jones is an agent.
    The way he lambasted Michael Jackson after his death was downright sickening.
    Jackson was about to spill the beans on the Hollywood Illuminati and Jones cover up that fact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ZVEydzdTk
    He went on about Jackson being a pedophile even though there’s no evidence to prove that Jackson committed that crime, as a matter of fact he was aquitted, but that didn’t stop Jones’ vitriolic comments. He even attacked Jackson’s family.
    The point is Jones had the opportunity to expose the truth that the Freemasons killed Michael Jackson, but he chose not to, which unequivocally demonstrates that Jones is working for them.
    What happened to Jackson is big news…this was a masonic homicide or assassination.

    The point is Michael Jackson was being attack by the NWO. When the media calls someone “Wacko Jacko” and a guy like Alex Jones can’t see through their facade then he loses all cred.
    Personally, I think Michael Jackson pissed off the “Black Nobility” and that’s why he was assassinated.
    Here’s one scenerio, remember when Jackson out bid Paul Macartney for the rights to the Beatles songs? Well, I believe that’s when Jackson’s troubles began.
    If you recall, Macartney was knighted by Elizabeth II, which would make him an honorary Freemason if he isn’t one already. Furthermore, according to John Coleman’s book “The Committee of 300″ Coleman claims that the Beatles were a product of Tavistock, which is a psyops think tank of the NWO.
    I’m figuring that Macartney was promised exclusive rights to the Beatles’ musical catalog and Jackson mucked up Macartney’s plans when he out bid him.
    Which resulted in, everytime a Beatles’ song was played on the radio they had to pay Jackson and this pissed them off big time. They envisaged that this whole debacle was Jackson spitting in their faces, more so than a buisness deal that he got over on. And so the persecution began!

    That’s just one scenario, however, I think it’s pretty fucking sad that he had to fight the NWO all by himself.
    But look on the brightside. Since he was able to out think & maneuver these guys for as along as he did, then it’s safe to say that there is still hope yet.
    Michael Jackson wasn’t perfect and neither are we.
    We all make mistakes, but he shouldn’t have had to pay for with his life.
    Forgiveness is key, and Michael Jackson more than redeemed himself in the end and he deserves our utmost respect.
    As for (disinfo agent) Jones, I see for myself that he spins the truth on a regular basis, and that’s sad.
    I can’t believe I’m actually agreeing with Eric John Phelps on this one. Damn!!!! Who would have thought that?

  397. Bobo,

    I don’t agree with everything Cooper said either. It is just that I know the man was sincere, courageous and dared to look into everything and anything that would lead him to deeper insight, and he did grow in his knowledge and would have grown further still had he been allowed to live. He was a big ufologist for awhile until he started seeing a lot of disinfo ops involved in it and later in life he said he just wasn’t sure about the subject of aliens anymore. So that was a big step for him to take. And exposing Jones as a fear-mongering disinfo agent was another big step for him, the one that got him killed in my opinion. He also exposed Art Bell which I am sure didn’t help.

    I personally think Jackson played along with the Illuminati to some degree, either that or was played as in mind-controlled.

    Michael Jackson fans flock to see Egyptian model ‘lookalike’
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/michael-jackson-fans-flock-to-see-egyptian-model-lookalike/

    I have mentioned a few things before, but also one of his last wishes was to meet the Queen and be knighted by her. That was related by Uri Geller, a Jackson confidente and also Illuminati member. That was a big deal to him at least according to Geller. Maybe it was just naivete on his part, or Geller is making it up, or Jackson was a mind-control slave, I don’t know.

    When I look at these pics, I see Jackson as a puppet held up by drugs and mind-control.

    Bizarre pics of Geller and Jackson together
    http://jfkawards.50megs.com/geller.htm

    Of course, you can’t be successful as he was and not be at least somewhat compromised by the Illuminati which runs the entertainment industry. See the articles and vids on Jay-Z and the Illuminati for example. But that doesn’t mean Jackson was totally compromised, or that he was a willing participant and you are probably right about him being at his core one of the good guys, and a victim. You know more than I on the subject at any rate. I do believe the Masons carried out a hit on him. His doctor, Conrad Murray who killed him, was a Freemason as the whole world should know.

    Michael Jackson’s Dial-a-Dope Live-in Celebrity M.D. a Freemason
    http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/blog/?p=307

    Coroner rules Michael Jackson death a homicide
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/coroner-rules-michael-jackson-death-a-homicide/

    Alex Jones obfuscates the truth about the real Illuminati and always boils it down to the generic term “globalists” which keeps the public’s mind off Freemasonry, Jesuits, SMOM etc. He attempts to paint those who bring up SMOM as crazy people. He says anyone who questions his version of 9/11 is mentally ill. He and his co-host Webster Tarpley (a Larooshee) support Putin much the time who is a KGB terrorist. Jones has often painted Communist dictator Chavez as some kind of hero. Jones has often had his old buddie Joe Rogan “ride shotgun”. Rogan is a Satanist. You can see him here wearing a 666 t-shirt arm in arm with Anton Lavey’s grandson Stanton.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kJLrriuC968/SWNRCdecr2I/AAAAAAAAAHk/-sepLwnZLI0/s400/joe-rogan-lavey.jpg

    Rogan says humans are a virus that need to be eliminated. There is much more to him than meets the eye, especially when is is co-hosting Infowars. Remember Fear Factor? Dehumanization. People think Infowars is fighting the NWO. I have concluded finally that this is very far from the case and have stated many reasons all over this blog why Ron Paul is controlled opposition. In fact, I could go on and on about it, but don’t have the hours and hours it would take to go over it all. This man controls almost the entire opposition to the NWO, at least in America. That is how much power he wields. I’m not telling people to follow me. I want people to follow their own common sense and the facts wherever they lead us. I am only showing the reasons why people shouldn’t follow RP and Jones.

  398. Totally agree that Alex Jones is a double agent for sure. His claim to be a Christian is negated by his ranting and raving as he foams at the mouth like a demon possessed lunatic offering no solutions apart from violence. He is definitely an agent provocateur for the papal nwo.

    Most of us know that JFK was murdered because he was a rebel to the Pope as he tried to destroy the Jesuit General’s CIA as well as end the Vietnam war. His death was a signal to other world leaders: ‘If we can kill an American President in the middle of the day, in Dallas, TX, and no one goes to trial, we can get you too.”

    From video: Why was John Kennedy Assassinated, and Why Was He Killed? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xauOv8PQZzw

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  400. Well, now we all know that there are these New World Disorder types, that I think we can also call the Brutish Empire (btw, the Queen’s Privy Council runs the whole “Commonwealth” bloc mostly, and has for a century or so).
    Now in reality you cannot really ‘connect the dots’, as there are no dots and no real simple connecto’s and it’s dynamical, but it is useful to have some knowledge of associations.

    Now to keep the eye on the ball, the fact is that the US is bankrupt and the system is full of worthless papers called derivatives. We also know that the system is so screwed up since the old Bretton Woods system was taken down and a floating monetary system was introduced in 1971, and ultimately when the Federal Reserve Act was passed in 1913. The Fed is a tool of these swindlers, and is their real source of power, so why not just declare their system bankrupt and set up, not a private controlled system, but a national banking system.
    Since the power of the Brutish empire to corrupt Congress, the Senate and whatever flows from the central banking system, why don’t we shut that abomination we call a Central Banking Sytem DOWN! Shut down the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in Geneva, Switzerland, which was created in 1923 to take care of the reparations payment of the illegal charge that Germany had to pay for WWI. The BIS and ‘neutral’ Switzerland was then involved during WWII as the bank for nazi Germany, directly with Hitler appointed staff working with allied bankers at the BIS under the war.

    In a booklet ‘The Bank for International Settlements 1930-1955′ Roger Auboin writes: ‘the Bank, its property and assets and all deposits and other funds entrusted to it are immune in time of peace and in time of warfrom any measure such as expropriation, requisition, seizure, confiscation, prohibition or restriction of gold or currency export and import, and other similar measures’.
    So this very immune nazi bank, why don’t we just take it out of it’s misery and shut down the entire Central Banking System, beginning with the Fed.

    And if someone want’s to make connecto’s, do a job on Goldman Sachs, where Henry Paulson, Timothy Geithner and many important central bankers originate and publish it. I know a bit of the picture though.
    So get your pitchforks out and tell your congressman to get moving or else…

    Have Fun
    DK

  401. You hit the nail on the head DK. Not that taking down the Central banking system and the BIS will solve all our woes as the power brokers are too entrenched to be taken out that easily, but it certainly would be a beautiful setback.

    People need to get their money out and keep it out of any larger international bank, take all money out of Goldman Sachs and others of their ilk, and routinely pummel any banking scum or Wall Street type that argues otherwise. Time to take back our lives!

  402. p.s.

    in case someone doesn’t know, derivative’s (MBS, OTC …) make up a debt bubble (securities bubble), metaphorically speaking, the size of one of the WTC towers and is on fire, while a tool shed is the world’s GDP.

    Basically all the world’s banks have been turned into casino’s and the casino chips have flooded the system.

  403. If case someone doesn’t know, derivative’s make up a debt bubble (securities bubble) the size of, metaphorically speaking, the size of one of the WTC towers and is on fire, while the world’s GDP is a tool shed compared to it.

    Basically the worlds banks have been turned into casino’s and the casino chips have flooded the system. A looting operation.

  404. DK & Truthseeker7:
    You should read “The Blood Bankers” by James S. Henry to get the inside story of how all of this was done.

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  406. I did not know Mandela was one of these Devils.

  407. you can search mandela on this site for several articles, but also just google him with knights of malta, order of st. john, fabian socialism, tony blair, oppenheimer etc, etc. he is a total front man, controlled opposition. a book could be written about this.

  408. you can search mandela on this site for several articles, but also just google him with knights of malta, order of st. john, fabian socialism, tony blair, oppenheimer etc, etc. he is a total front man, controlled opposition. a book could be written about this. mbeki is also one of them i believe

  409. It looks as though Alex Jones is working for Rainbow Media & The Weinstein Company, which Harvey and Bob Weinstein were working for Disney before they quit Disney’s Miramax films co.
    Jones starred in a new film that’s aired on the IFC network titled “New World Order”
    This is totally hilarious because Jones is listed as an actor in the opening credits.
    The film industry is making a mockery of the NWO conspiracy. Jones and his buddies are deliberately discrediting all the research that many people such as Bill Cooper died to uncover and bring to the masses.
    PJwalker911 I’m starting to think you’re on to something… that one of the reasons that Cooper was killed was because he exposed Jones.
    These assholes are turning the Bilderberg conspiracy into a hollywood production and passing it off as fiction or paranoid celluloid fantasy. As a matter of fact the SciFi Movie “The Illuminati” Starring Kevin Sorbo was said to be based on John Coleman’s “The Conspirator’s Hierarchy the Committee of 300.” Also it looks as though Daniel Estulin is getting a movie deal for his book on Bilderberg.
    These guys are selling us out and everyone is going to think that the NWO is nothing more than fiction. They’re allowing Hollywood to make a mockery of all of this, and if these guy were for real they would have never taken part/participated in this bullshit.

  410. If anyone has anymore info on what I just posted up above please feel free to comment.

  411. Israeli Control of the Mass Media & the 9-11 Cover-Up (Part 1)
    By Christopher Bollyn – Rumor Mill News September 1, 2007

    Who controls the “hidden hand” in the U.S. mass media that censors and suppresses the crucial 9-11 evidence? What is the nexus connecting the architects of 9-11 with the mass media moguls who are covering up the truth?

    The on-going cover-up of the evidence of Israeli involvement in 9-11 and explosions in the World Trade Center by the U.S. mass media is indicative of a high-level connection between the architects of the “false flag” terror attacks and the media moguls who control the major news networks in the United States.

    As a longtime observer of Israel and the Middle East, I have watched how the U.S. mass media has increasingly become an instrument of Israeli propaganda. As Zionists have extended their grip on American media networks the major television, radio, film and print media outlets have effectively become propaganda tools of a foreign state – Israel – and are used to manipulate U.S. public opinion to support the Zionist agenda. The painfully obvious anti-Arab and anti-Islamic bias of Hollywood films and news-related programs has become ever more extreme as pro-Israel Zionists have achieved near total control of the U.S. mass media.

    It needs to be understood that the Zionist conquest of the U.S. mass media did not simply happen by chance or as a result of natural market forces. It is the planned result of a long-term covert strategy put into effect decades ago by the government of Israel to control the news and entertainment networks that inform how Americans view Zionism, Israel, and the Middle East.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=108923

  412. This zionist conspiracy stuff is a diversion, which i think has been stated here earlier.

    We are talking about so-called christian orders, represented by the SMOM, Bailey brandenburg, britsh and dutch OSJ, that are the center of operations. The Jerusalem Foundation and others are then complicit, working as the glove for the oligarchy.

    Stop posting lame diversional posts, plz.

  413. steven b laube

    drurds gone wild , or i should say missgided devoties of the holy one ,,

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  416. Hey, Clinton(s) Bush’s , Obama, and almost all wars in American history were started by Protestants…therefore the New World Order is a Protestant plot. For more visit:

    http://workstation3.blogspot.com/search/label/Jesuits

    While there see Labels “Martin Luther,” and Protestantism etc. Regards!

  417. Stephen,

    Thanks for introducing us to your Catholic spin on the NWO. Refreshing *cough*.

    Catholics and Protestants are two sides of the same coin, like Republicans and Democrats. All these dichotomies arise out of the same myths and historical deceptions deserving to be lumped under the term “Matrix”, a delusional unreality set up and controlled by the elite in every age and based largely on hegelian psyops strategies, astrology and occult secrets. Christianity as a whole is merely the perpetuation of the dying god myth of the ancient Mysteries, its only distinction being that this time, this dying god was supposedly the real one. Sure, whatever you say…

    Freemasonry, Christianity, Satanism, OTO, Talmudism, Judaism, Zionism, Islam and all the other -isms are all branches of the same tree of Mystery Religion delusion and insanity perpetuating the historical horror show, deliberately.

    If the world were run by common people, we would live in a world of common sense. But the fact is, we have ALWAYS been ruled by psychopathic inbred elitists whose sick fantasy has always been global power control, using primarily a two-tiered exoteric/esoteric system of mind control and a series of brutal shocks and scaremongering to keep everything going on the apocalyptic path to elitist New World Order apotheosis..

    Your Pope has called for a “global authority” to run the world. He and other Popes have supported the United Nations and the NWO in general. The OSS was started by a papal knight (Sovereign Military Order of Malta, Phi Kappa Psi Fraternity, Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Papal Lateran Cross, Knight Grand Cross of the Order of St. Sylvester, Order of the Crown, Grand Officer of the Order of Léopold, Grand Officer of the Order of Orange Nassau, Grand Cross of the Royal Norwegian Order of St. Olav) William Donovan who was also a Wall Street lawyer and good friend to both Masons like FDR and “Protestant” Bonesmen galore who have filled the ranks of the CIA terror organization side by side with SMOM knights. Papal knights do control a great deal in America as I am sure you know. Your hero Buchanan is also a papal knight of Malta as I am also sure you know.

    So please don’t try to sell us your spin here. We ain’t buying it.

  418. First of all, i would like to say that there is no one person ruling the world from a throne. Be it pope or whomever.
    Not like the brainwashing in Ian Fleming’s James Bond or Star Wars or whatever.
    We talk about a social strata, with organisational structures. They are mostly christians who are not christians or jews who are not jews.
    They have gnostic versions of the religions for so-called ‘super humans’. Their religion is embedded in their organisations, which are the St. John of Jerusalem organisations.
    There might be a superstructure like a venetian system to all the St John organisations, we don’t know precisely, but they are still very associated with Venice. Quite certainly,the big four, the SMOM, the venerable order (british), dutch order, Bailey Brandenburg order (german) are an alliance.

    These social strata intermarry, and are composed of so-called ‘old’ families and their descendants. They don’t get appointed, they appoint themselves and might even allow newcomers, i guess that is a matter of power struggles.

    Some are historically intertwined with the Vatican, but there is no good basis to believe that the Vatican controls any of this, and thereby also the pope. I haven’t studied the ancestry of the current pope, but i don’t believe he is born with any title or whatsoever. Though in former times, at least before the 20th century, that was different.
    There is also the interesting case of the Vatican’s banker Roberto Calvi who was found hanging dead from Black Friars Bridge in London in 1982. But basically these social strata i speak of control the world financial system, so does someone wonder if they eventually have bought up the Vatican, lock stock and barrell.

    There is a strong presence of these elite strata in London since the British East India company became the brutish empire in 1763, and therefore they have o so social clubs in places like St. James, London.
    You can read about these clubs…

    White’s
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White%27s
    Brooks
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks%27s
    Boodle’s
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boodle%27s
    Carlton Club
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlton_Club

    And to no surprise, it is mostly depraved stuff going on there.

  419. Stephen:
    I would also like to add that Queen Elizabeth I brought forth the “Act of Uniformity” which unified the church.
    A case in point: Wikipeada pretty much sums it up here.
    “The Act of Uniformity (actually passed in 1559) set the order of prayer to be used in the English Book of Common Prayer. Every man had to go to church once a week or be fined 12 pence (equivalent to just over £11 in 2007). With this act Elizabeth I made it a legal obligation to go to church every Sunday. The ‘Act of Uniformity’ reinforced the Book of Common Prayer. The act made up part of the Elizabethan Religious Settlement in England instituted by Elizabeth I who wanted to unify the Anglican Church. Other acts concerned with this settlement were the Act of Supremacy 1559 and the Thirty-Nine Articles (1563). Elizabeth was trying to achieve a settlement after thirty years of turmoil during the reigns of Henry VIII, Edward VI and Mary I, in which England had swung from Catholicism to Protestantism and back to Catholicism again. The outcome of the Elizabethan Settlement has been a sometimes tense and often fragile union of both Catholic and Protestant wings of the Church of England and Anglicanism world wide.”

    So it becomes obvious what’s really going on here. The elites control what you believe, what you think, what you eat, where you live…etc…

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Uniformity_1559

  420. I’m not sure who wrote the Bio for this video all I know is that Rcoones102 on youtube posted it.

    “Anthony J Hilder reveals how the public is controlled by the use of money. Money that is created out of nothing and is not backed up by precious metals any more. He interviews a man, Kevin Innes [who created the Liberty Dollar], who has minted genuine silver coins (not us coins) but was arrested for doing so by the FBI. Most of our ‘money’ is digital…that is ones and zeros on computerised storage. Kevin states: “We are controlled by what we desire”. “We have a Corporate State”. “if they control what we desire..we are controlled indirectly by them”. “If we desire Federal Reserve Notes, and are willing to compromise our ideals… there are all kinds of changes that take place in society….a drop in values.” “We have a Corporate State” “A Fascist type of model” “The Corporations are running government like a business”

    You can watch this exposé on youtube

    Also, PJwalk911 you should post a “Free World Alliance” link in your alternative news section. I think Amy Goodman’s DemocracyNow.org should be also be placed.
    Thanks

  421. BoBo09,

    What do you think of Colonial Scrip as an alternative to both metal-backed currency and FRN debt money? The thing that strikes me about it is that it served the individual colonies (pre-federal, pre-revolution) well for decades with near zero inflation (imagine gas holding steady for fifty years!), eliminated central banks and the need for precious metals, made the Colonies prosper and of course once Franklin explained the system to the British, they tried to put an end to it. And this is given as the true cause of the revolution. I think all this merits consideration especially in light of the fact that as soon as the new American Union started issuing money, the economy started on its roller-coaster ride that we have not recovered from since.

    Colonial scrip

    Colonial scrip was not backed by gold or silver and therefore the colonies could control its purchasing power. This was similar to the “tally stick” system used by the British Empire for over 700 years. It was different from the conventional European mercantilist system of money which required governments to borrow from banks and pay interest for those loans, as gold and silver were the only regarded forms of money. Colonial scrip, were “bills of credit” created by the government, based on the credit of that government, and this meant that there was no interest to pay for the introduction of money. This went a considerable way towards defraying the expense of the Colonial governments and in maintaining prosperity. The Governments charged low interest when it loaned out this paper money to its citizens, with land as collateral, and this interest income lowered the tax burden on the people, contributing to prosperity.

    The currency was born when a lack of gold and silver in the Colonies made trade hard to conduct, and a barter system prevailed. One by one, the Colonies began to issue their own paper money to serve as a medium of exchange to make trade vibrant. The Governments could then retire excess notes out of circulation by taxing the people, helping some colonies generally avoid inflation. Each colony had its own currency and some were better managed than others. It was banned by English Parliament in the Currency Act after Benjamin Franklin had explained the benefits of this currency to the British Board of Trade. Outlawing the circulating medium caused a depression in the colonies, and Franklin and many others believed it to be the true cause of the American Revolution.

    After Franklin had explained…to the British Government as the real cause of prosperity, they immediately passed laws, forbidding the payment of taxes in that money. This produced such great inconvenience and misery to the people, that it was the principal cause of the Revolution. A far greater reason for a general uprising, than the Tea and Stamp Act, was the taking away of the paper money.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_scrip

  422. BoBo09,

    Re: Britain….they had about 200 offenses on the law books that were deemed capital crimes in the 18th century. The only offenses that merit the death penalty are normally murder and treason. Just saw that on theWikipedia post on William Penn.

  423. DK,

    I too question the idea that one person on a throne controls the world, such as the Black pope. First of all, if the Jesuits are so powerful, why then was it possible for popes to suppress them and governments to ban them? If they controlled the entire world, you would think it would be somewhat the other way round. On the other hand, I am not denying the power of the Catholic Church or of the Jesuits in particular. There are many quotes from statesmen attesting to their power and cunning zeal to subvert governments, just like the CIA which is undoubtedly tied into SOJ and SMOM. I also question the extent to which a Black Pope could control the infamous Triads in China (and around the world) which is a very significant power controlling billions of dollars, politicians and even banks. But then again, it is believed by many that Triads are Masonic, and there are those who claim that Freemasonry is ultimately controlled by the Black Pope, so I don’t know.

    But there is something we need to take into consideration and it is that this NWO system is advancing steadily, week by week, year by year into a full blown global dictatorship. For this to happen there has to be global coordination and so we can see that whether or not one person or one family rules the capstone, the Agenda is constantly moving forward and the Agenda is monumental in proportion, all-encompassing in its objectives and monolithic in its obvious guidance.

    And yes the four official orders of St John and SMOM do officially recognize each other and do cooperate together.

    I also would like to say that there are basically three sovereign city states that are the main power centers (each having an obelisk in the center), and those are The City of London, The Vatican and Washington DC (behaves like a foreign city state anyway). There are other power centers obviously, but these three stand out in my mind as being the main ones. I have leaned toward London as being the most powerful of these centers, but I am sure that could be wrong. I am open to alternative suggestions like New York, Frankfurt, Brussels, Geneva, Beijing more recently, Moscow, maybe Tel Aviv etc, but these are not city states. Actually SMOM is a kind of city-state of its own which is pretty weird.

    Also of note is that a nick name for Skull and Bones is “Boodle Boys” (tying maybe to the Boodle Club in London?). It would be nice to know why, but so far haven’t seen anything.

    The Boodle Boys

    Robert A. Lovett was Assistant Secretary of War for Air (1941-1945), Secretary of Defense (1951-53), and a leading member of the CFR. Until his death in 1986, Lovett was one of the “most powerful men in the United States for nearly 40 years.”

    And as a partner in the investment house of Brown Brothers, Harriman, Lovett had connections to another interesting group of “Boodle Boys” ( an old slang term for members of the Order of Skull and Bones.)
    http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/boodleboys1.html

  424. PJwalker911
    I don’t think colonial scrip would work today because our government is way to corrupt for that. I’m at a loss insofar as what to do about the FED influence on the US Government. The only thing we could do is stop honoring their currency and start printing our own but that’s something I don’t think mainstream America can grasp.

  425. PJ

    The reason for the confusion around the jesuits is that the jesuits are not the top. Ignatius of Loyola was picked up in Venice by some of the most powerful patrician familien of those days. A guy called Gasparo Contarini was one of them.
    Basically Loyola was hanging around on the streets, moving around like a very ‘pious’ vagabond. When he came to Venice, i think for the second time, they took him in, flies and all, and he was organised to create this organisation known as the jesuits. It simply is an intelligence operation/organisation based on a military style so-called ‘christian’ faith. The jesuit general is then the head of this organisation, and all jesuits obey the general blindly. BUT the jesuit general himself is a pawn of the venetians.
    The jesuits were then, besides having to repeat Ignatius’s crazy brainwashing techniques, allowed to know some science. As a secret organisation they then with the help of Venice grew in power and jesuits were sent out to all the courts in Europe to spy and manipulate, all for the so-called greater glory of the pope, but in reality really for the empire which was controlled by Venice and it’s accomplices.
    With skills in science and art, they made theater and different stuff to promote their causes, and they also used their science skills to get recognition and gain power over rulers in foreign continents. And then there is alot more to say about them, but they never were the real controllers, merely a tool. And i think they are still a handy tool.
    The history that then follows is that Venice moved north to, guess where…
    Well you guessed it, to Britain naturally and the City of London is the actual successor to Venice as a system. So the City of London is actually a state in the state, non other than the Vatican has such a status. Well ofcourse the SMOM is an international state with no land, but the St John organisations controls the City of London, where Wall Street is a branch thereof.
    You will find some of those very ‘holy’ churches in the center of New York near Wall Street. If i am not too much wrong either, CFR and the Rockefeller house are situated near each other in New York.

    But generally, there is no single individual controlling an empire and there never has been, and i guess there never will be.

  426. BoBo09,

    I follow your point, but it only follows if we continue down this path of believing the federal government is our savior, waiting another four years to vote for Masonic JBS/CNP/SMOM Paul as we continue the descent into hell. Note that colonial scrip was used prior to federalization of the colonies/states, that is when they were still largely independent entities. It is very difficult to control your destiny when you are hitched to a centralized federated empire, but if the states were to secede, they would immediately take charge of their own destinies like any other sovereign nation, print their own money, arrange for defense, protect borders and business would continue as usual. The world wouldn’t end and all these dastardly plans of the NWO would be automatically dissolved.

    Not to say it’s that simple or easy, but after banging my head against the federal government door for decades, this seems to be the only way out. The federal government cannot be reformed because the federal government is itself the disease. “Patriots” ignore the facts about the founding by Masons, yet they largely agree that the NWO is a Masonic agenda. I still believe it was rigged from the start to be the New World Empire to lead us into the NWO. The capital is laid out on a Masonic mandala of sorts and the buildings are festooned with occult symbols, or ARE occult symbols, all dedicated to the NWO. It is impossible to overcome the NWO with the NWO. That is my point.

    Scrip is currently in use in various localities like Ithaca and has had a history of use throughout American history. Californians traded in clam shells during the Depression which I think we get the slang “clams” for money. I’m not saying we should use clamshells, but we should keep our minds open. I just think it is worth considering and talking about.

    Throughout history around the world, peoples have agreed on all kinds of means of conducting trade. What matters is that they agree upon it and find it of benefit as did the colonists. That is all that matters.

  427. DK,

    Yes, I have heard though don’t know, that “Venitian” comes from “Phoenician”. What do you think of that?

    I have an open mind about all this and while I do see the Vatican as extremely powerful and influential, and I know that the Jesuits are largely an intelligence operation, I am still not convinced they are the capstone. On the other hand, you seem to be saying:

    1. Venice was the up and coming empire
    2. Venice moved to the City of London to become the British Empire
    3. The St John organisation controls the City of London, ie controls the Empire

    Now I know you are saying “there is no single individual controlling an empire”, but it also sounds like you are saying the City, via the Order of St John, (ie the families that control it), has the lion’s share of power to control the world’s destiny.

    Is that about right?

    So the next question to you would be which families in your estimation control the Order of St John?

  428. PJ

    Okay, now you have really put me to work.

    Your first question i really don’t know anything about, i don’t regard it to be with much substance, though.

    Now to your points…
    1. Venice was the up and coming empire

    What do you mean by up and coming? Well they were up and coming around maybe 950A.D. or something, around after Charlemagne’s time.
    They rose to power from late 10th century on, and in 1177 Venice is crowned as the ‘Holy See’ by pope Alexander III. In Italy you had the Lombard League, comprised of several Italian cities mostly from Lombardia. The fight was between the remnants of the roman empire led by the Hohenstaufen family and those who wanted the Ultramontane system, based on the church’s power. So you had two fractions in the elite, those who were for the secular ‘Roman empire system’ called the Ghibbeline’s, and those for an empire based on the papacy called the Guelph party. The Ghibbeline’s were called the white nobility and the Guelph’s the black nobility.
    Even though it is not black and white, the remnants of the Roman empire was not really an empire, but more a system oriented towards development as Charlemagne had been, where the real empire had cloaked itself in the cowl of the church.
    Venice was the direct descendant of the old Roman empire, families and all.
    To get an idea of Venice’s power, the most instructive case is the league of Cambrai in 1510.
    The league of Cambrai was a league composed of what would be England, France, Spain, the papacy and other Italian provinces against this little lagoon city Venice. The venetians of course used hired mercenary’s as an army to defend them. Someone thinking of Blackwater here? They came close to Venice itself, but the venetians cut a deal with the pope and then under the banner ‘throw the barbarians out of Italy’, the campaign ended without ever reaching Venice. There is very good reason to believe that Genoa had a hand in this also as you will see several of the Genoese families present in the higher oligarchy today. Also St. George is the patron saint of Genoa adopted by London.
    But Venice organized several of the crusades, and they were also entangled with the Byzantine empire earlier on, but Venice was basically the ruler of the world from the early crusades up to the emergence of the british empire.

    2. Venice moved to the City of London to become the British Empire

    Due to the league of Cambrai, and the fact that the trade routes had expanded due to better ships and the discovery of sailroutes south of Africa to India, there was a brawl in Venice as how to secure the empire. A fraction called the Giovani (the young) wanted to move north, whilst the Vecchio (the old) wanted to stay. With the advice of frater Paolo Sarpi (who was with Galileo Galilei), the Giovani decided to uproot their tents and move the business further north. So the stations were taken through northern Germany, the Netherlands and finally England, where they set up shop in the city of London, in formally what’s called the Bank of England. They were called the ventian party in England at around Walpole’s time.
    This ‘retooling’ of the empire took maybe 200 years or so, and instead of old aristotelean dogmatism, the new thinking was based on the anti-science of the enlightenment with its philosoffers, Locke, Hume, Descartes, and the anti-scientist Isaac Newton etc., which is what you learn in universities all over the world today.

    3. The St John organisation controls the City of London, ie controls the Empire

    Well first of all, the head of the venerable order is HM the queen, and the City is closely tied to the Crown. Besides you will find that the City of London is closely associated with Freemasonry, with all its livery company system and this coat of arms business. And of course you know who’s the head of UGLE.

    ‘it also sounds like you are saying the City, via the Order of St John, (ie the families that control it), has the lion’s share of power to control the world’s destiny.’
    First, yes and your formulation is quite good too. Secondly, no not really because how can they control the world’s destiny when they cannot control themselves. The answer is that they facilitate the collapse of civilisation, (maybe you have heard of the St. John Apocalypse) but it’s not by their free will as they don’t know what free will is. But still it’s a political fight and the rest of the population are the one’s who have to fight for the survival of civilization, or live the next 100 years in misery.

    Which families…
    Well i cannot tell you exactly, as i guess if they have a venetian based superstructure or venetian type system in there, they will be changing office’s quite frequently, like every 2nd year. Venice had the libro d’oro (golden book), where the families who were written there were the privileged class that had rights to be in the grand council. Venice then had a council of 40, a council of 10, which was like an executive government and a council of 3, which was the ‘justice’ in Venice. The 3 could order anyone assassinated the same day if they wanted, so as to keep everybody in check, but they were also rotated frequently. In fact the word ‘ballot’ comes from the system the venetians used to decide who occupies various offices. But certainly groupings would occur and poorer members of the grand council could be bought.
    Even though, the house of Guelph, which represented the real empire faction and the black nobility, moved to Hanover where they were the house of Hanover, and eventually to England, where they again changed name to the house of Windsor.
    The Scottish side of the story goes back to a Robert Bruce, king of Scotland, templar knight, who to save himself from the persecution of the templar knights, cut a deal and surrendered the treasuries of the templars, created the Royal order of Scotland, which is supposedly the founder of the Scottish rite of freemasonry. The descendants of Bruce, the Stuarts and their descendants are all part of the oligarchical top.

  429. kamil kemal guller

    who is ruling the world?manmade laws and establishments or above them all God has power to create natural disastors.to demolish all the man made organisations.God has power.

  430. There is no god, and if there is, it doesn’t meddle in our affairs. It let’s us destroy ourselves or thrive based on our own decisions.

    Stop believing that the human race and earth are something special.

  431. kamil kemal guller,

    First, do you believe God is Omniscient and Omnipotent? Secondly, do you believe God is running the world? Or is he just sitting by, biding His time, waiting for something? Or is He selectively active in the affairs of men, just intervening here and there? What is His relationship to the Devil? Is the Devil acting on his own power? Where does he derive his power? Why, if God is Omniscient and Omnipotent, is the Devil allowed to carry out his plans? Why is humanity put through so much suffering at the hands of Evil, in other words?

  432. truthseeker7,

    Is there though, an Intelligence in the Universe? Is there an Ordering Principle? Is it possible to have Intelligent Design, without a Designer, without a “Grand Architect” as the Masons say (haha)? I ask, because there are those who seem to believe in a kind of non-anthropomorphized Intelligence, which orders everything from spinning galaxies to spinning flagellum.

    I think one is allowed to wonder if there might be a happy medium between a Theistic Creationism and an Atheistic Evolutionism. Be interesting to hear yours and others thoughts on this topic.

  433. PJ

    I was raised and educated in the catholic church, although I will admit I was brain-dead throughout most of it and rebelled at an early age. I am now an advanced degreed geoscientist and engineer with a fair amount of traditional education regarding evolution and physics.

    I think one has to be careful when discussing religion and higher beings because as the Zeitgeist DVD shows very nicely, virtually all modern (i.e., the last 2000+ years) religions are derived from ancient beliefs that worshipped many gods with mother earth and the sun being key players. Mankind realized early on how the ignorance of the masses could be manipulated through fear and basically all organized religions have used a similar model for centuries.

    With all that being said, I will admit that I can take mathematics and physics back only so far and then I get stuck. Am I stuck due to personal ignorance, due to our science and mathematics being incapable of “seeing” the answer or something else? I don’t know.

    Final answer – hell if I know if there’s a god but if there is I still refuse to believe that there is anything special about our earth, about human beings or about me! If a “god” made all this then it also made many others.

  434. truthseeker7,

    I agree with the “Zeitgeist” view of religion only it isn’t the Zeitgeist view, but a collection of many researchers throughout the 20th century revealing these ancient antecedents to current religions that has in a sense been hijacked by Zeitgeist. In fact, I believe most high Freemasons and Vatican prelates have known this stuff about the Mysteries for centuries only they didn’t tell the general public these secrets because it would expose the scam, yet it seems the time has come for the public to get a little dose of truth and that is what the film does, only it spins people off into yet another cult, and true religious believers just write it off as another Satanic instrument, so their belief is not shaken by it. I think Zeitgeist is another form of social engineering toward this compact eco-city socialism outlined in the Venus Project which falls in perfectly with the UN zero-carbon footprint socialist model of the United Nations’ global warming scam. In fact the Zeitgeist seems to be merely a front for the Venus Project and I would not be surprised if it has funding from the elites, though haven’t looked into that yet.

    Fortunately I was never indoctrinated with religion that much in childhood other than the usual Luthern Sunday school and the general Masonic Matrix paradigm we are all born into. So I was left to my own devices and have ever since kept a balance between skepticism and open-mindedness which I believe is the proper attitude for not only scientists, but all of us. I have been in contact with someone who is exploring this possibility of a non-theistic sort of Intelligent Design theory that seems to be on the right track, but I will get back to that when I have studied it more thoroughly. But since you are a scientist/engineer, when you peer into nature, into everything from spiral galaxies to spiral conch shells, look at the physical laws that govern the universe right down to the formation of a grasshopper or an amino acid, don’t you see some kind of intelligence involved in it all? I just think it is amazing when you consider how DNA works in such a mathematical precision to replicate itself in a kind of factory-like manufacturing process, you feel there is something guiding it other than mere chance arrangements. At least I do for the moment. Of course you look at robotic factories making cars for example and one might see something similar, yet knowing that the machines have no native intelligence, but are merely following software programs. But then, if there is a “program” or set of programs behind nature, then how does that come about? You see what I am getting at?

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  436. Strange…
    When I posted my last comment, it didn’t appear. Then I waited a day and still it was not there. I tried to repost it exactly as before and I was told “You already said that”.
    I waited maybe a half day and it hadn’t appeared yet. So I tried to post it again, this time with a slight correction on a comma error.
    Then it suddenly appeared, but not as a new post, but as a post when I had posted it originally, and without the correction. Luckily only the one post occurred.
    I was not looking at cache as I refreshed every time I looked anew.

    Who administers the site, and how does it function?

  437. DK,

    This is a http://wordpress.com blog and I have no control over how comments are received by the system. It does have a spam-detection which kicks in often when someone posts a link or a profanity, but I don’t think that was the problem. Sometimes, I myself have trouble with comments. I will be typing away and suddenly it just disappears, or even though I didn’t post a comment it will say that I just posted a similar comment when I didn’t. In other words it is screwy sometimes and one of those things.

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  439. ClimateGate!!

    The WWF’s genocide agenda has been hit a serious blow as East Anglia University in Norwich, London has been revealed as a center of the science hoax of global warming.

    See this video on the revelations…

    BTW, the very nazi and British Eugenics Society chairman Julian Huxley was the founder of EAU!

  440. Dk

    Excellent video! Here one is one of my current favorites:

    Interesting bit of info on EAU. Baroness Thatcher set up CRU according to Lord Monckton.

  441. The whole Climate change hoax is being orchestrated by the Club of Rome…I suggest reading “Limits to Growth a Report to the Club of Rome.”
    I haven’t read this book yet , but I do plan on purchasing it after the holiday.

  442. Bobo,

    I read it back in the 70s in an ecology class and took it hook, line and sinker since everyone else did and the prof was pushing it hard. It took me years to deprogram my mind from it because nobody ever told me about the NWO until about 1999, but now it is clear that the Club of Rome had set up this hoax just to get their global government in place, along with global taxation, cap and trade ponzi scheme ripoff, micromanaging human existence, etc.

    One thing that disturbs me is how the leaders of the skeptic movement often fail to mention this is an elite (royalty, bankers, big CEOs etc) agenda of the Club of Rome and Bilderberg who are the same people bascially. Leaders like Monckton say it is the “liberals” wanting a communist world government. What he should be saying is that it is his fellow aristocrats who want a New World Order, so I am tempted to say he is controlled opposition.

  443. PJWalker9/11
    What’s even crazier is that most of the world bought it hook, line, and sinker. Evo Morales the president of Bolivia was on DemocracyNow promoting it yesterday, which scares the living shit out of me.

    democracynow.org/2009/12/17/bolivian_president_evo_morales_on…

    What I think the Club of Rome is setting in motion is simply this. When Hilary Clinton’s 100 Billion Dollar proposal goes through it will be used to (so-call) help third world countries such as Bolivia, Angola etc… But then all of the sudden the money is going to dry up, which is where the IMF and the World Bank comes into play. Because when the money runs out and the bullshit climate change project can’t be completed the poor saps (Third World Nations States) will have to take out more loans…in other words the Banksters are going to have them by the balls/in debt up to their assholes. And when they can’t pay…well there goes their natural resources, land, their way of life/government, their economies…etc.
    Plus these idiots are asking for the extermination of what the Protocals of the Learned Elders of Zion refers to as Goyim (Cattle/Us).
    Moreover, these people are talking about population control…my question is who gets to live and who dies? I’ll bet my bottom dollar it isn’t going to be the elite class.

    I’m not trying to sound like a fear monger, but it looks as though the world is rallying for its own destruction.

    As for Monckton he’s a shill playing the hegalian dialectic/left right paradigm.

  444. Bobo,

    You got it all right. Everybody gets the shaft into the trillions by this scam and the carbon-barons with their gigantic carbon footprints make off with the loot. And it isn’t even warming, let alone caused by humans. Just a massive depopulation hoax with multiple benefits to the elite (ie Club of Rome, Bilderberg, etc who are all the same scumbags). It isn’t fear-mongering to acknowledge how horrible this is and what is more disgusting to me is that so few really know or care to know about what is being done to them.

  445. It does not seem to me that Lord Monckton is controlled opposition, more that there is a split in the British establishment, where some are pushing a world government based on the global warming hoax, while another fraction rightly thinks that this global warming scheme is too dangerous and understand that it will bring down both civilization and empire.

    The smaller fraction opposing the global warming hoax, which of course includes Lord Christoffer Monckton wants the empire to be based on the ‘free trade’ dogma.

    The latter are slightly less insane than the global warming hoaxters. And true, Monckton is playing the left-right card, which of course is a manipulation trick.

    FYI – Lord Christoffer Monckton is a SMOM member.

  446. I heard LORD Monckton admit in a lecture that he was the one who put the idea forward to establish the Hadley Climate Research Unit as science advisor to BARONESS Bilderberger Thatcher who he still seems to be cozy with. I just find things like this and his elite Illuminati memberships troubling indeed. We (or at least I do) have the same issues with Ron Paul who tends to say all the right types of things from a libertarian perspective, yet, when you analyze his associations and the fact that nothing actually gets done about the NWO and that he still claims Osama bin Laden did 9/11 because of our mid-east policies, then you have reasons to suspect him of being controlled opposition. IE, the best way to control an opposition is to lead it and that is exactly what these people do, but where to? Or anywhere?

    And I have never heard Monckton blame the Club of Rome, Bilderbergers or the royal family patrons of these organs of global dictatorship or Prince Philip’s WWF or the 1001 Club etc. It’s always this shadowy group of “liberals and marxists” who he never quite gets around to naming. Oh of course he enjoys bashing Gore, but couldn’t that just be more Good Cop/Bad Cop? Could he in the end actually bring the whole skeptic movement crashing down through some kind of new “revelation” that he’d been “wrong” all along? The man is a near genius, never underestimate him.

    At any rate, I have an instinctive distrust of aristocratic saviors who appear just in the nick of time to save us.

    Christopher Walter Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Monckton,_3rd_Viscount_Monckton_of_Brenchley

    Associations

    Monckton is a member of the Worshipful Company of Broderers
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worshipful_Company_of_Broderers

    an Officer of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venerable_Order_of_Saint_John

    a Knight of Honour and Devotion of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta

    and a member of the Roman Catholic Mass Media Commission.

    and has been a Trustee of the Hales Trophy for the Blue Riband of the Atlantic since 1986.[1]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Riband

  447. Well they have certainly made an updated profile of Lord Monckton on wikipedia. :-)

    I guess that it is not exactly his friends who made that profile.

    I don’t disagree on the concept of controlled opposition. I just think that it can be used as a kind of waste bin to simplify things, while reality is not always that simple.
    Besides Monckton has said that he is a loyal subject of the queen, and there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that he wants to dissolve the British empire, quite to the contrary.
    When it comes to Ron Paul, i don’t trust him that much either, and he might be controlled opposition. If he is a liberitarian, he surely does have a problem. It all depends on what he does. Is he serious or not?

    For sure, Monckton was at COP15, he held alternative conferences on the subject, he went around at COP15 and organized against the agenda there, to such an extent that he called in public some crazy rowdy youth group for ‘Hitler youth’. To me at least i do give credit to the idea that Lord Monckton is genuinely against the global warming hoax.

  448. Well, the whole idea for global government comes out of expansion of the British Empire of the royal family that has made English the lingua franca for the world. And the Vatican goes right along with it. In fact both agendas are intertwined in a kind of hegelian dialectic for world government. And we see both the British and the Vatican empires accept and promote “global authority”, the NWO and the United Nations generally which is the matrix for global government. So the question is, how could someone like Monckton claim he is against world government/empire and still support and defend both the Vatican and the Queen who has taken every opportunity sign off and sublimate the UK into the EU, the main bloc in the global government?

  449. Well that question is easy to answer. Lord Monckton is a radical free marketeer.
    So what he is actually doing is advising the royal family and followers to quit the global warming agenda and go for global empire built on ‘free market’ ideology instead. Which i guess they have been working on for quite some time.

  450. DK,

    Sorry DK, but the British Royals are 100% behind this scam. Especially Charles, but also the Queen and her “consort” the Duke, as well as every one of the rest of them including the next King. This is part of the overall Illuminati agenda, and there is no one more Illuminist than the Windsors. So it’s ridiculous to assert that old Lord Monckton is going to somehow give them a change of heart. As I said, unless proven otherwise, he is controlled opposition just like Ron Paul, Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.

  451. PJ,

    you didn’t quite get what i meant. I agree fully with you on what you say about the royals with respect to the AGW scam.

    If i give you an advise about my opinion about what you should do, based on my supposed competency on some matter, it still doesn’t mean that they will follow the advise.

    So i did not mean that the royals have called in Lord Monckton as an advisor, which is something quite different. And i think the royals and their followers are quite pissed on Monckton for what he has done. And that explains the exposing profile of Monckton on wikipedia. Anyway their scam is basically ruined as of now.

    Another thing is that Lord Monckton is not a loner, he represents a fraction of the establishment in Britain, and he has already warned the queen that if she again meddles in politics as she did with her trip to Trinidad & Tobago, she will not be queen for much longer…

    Some might laugh at such a statement, but Lord Christoffer Monckton’s grandfather (i think), was involved in setting up the abdication of King Edward VIII.

    Still i think that the times and the issues have changed and so Monckton doesn’t stand as strong as his grandfather did then. But i also might be wrong.

  452. DK,

    Does Lord Monckton call for the abolition of the monarchy? Will he renounce his peerage which is subsumed under the Monarch who he must serve ultimately?

    All modern British honours, including peerage dignities, are created directly by the British monarch, taking effect when letters patent are affixed with the Great Seal of the Realm.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peerage

    Will he withdraw from the Knights of Malta/St John?

    Knights of Malta fueling both sides of the “Climate Debate” with Lord Monckton
    http://truthmovement.com/?p=981

    Will he denounce the Illuminati and call for an end of the New World Order? Will he castigate Baroness Thatcher as an Illuminati Bilderberger hag? Will he vilify the Vatican as a bevy of slithering vipers? Will he condemn Freemasons as the foot-soldiers of the NWO?

    The answer to all the above is a resounding no! …unfortunately.

    Therefore, he is controlled opposition because he supports all the above persons and institutions which are the very foundations of the NWO. If, however, he fulfills the requirements to denounce all the above (or his head is blown off on live television by SAS sharpshooters), I will first apologize to you, then forgive his errors and lend him my utmost support. (it will never happen though).

    I have put forward similar demands of the royal brats William and Harry. Neither of them will renounce their titles, much less defend their own mother’s memory as a victim of an assassination by their own father. No, the royal psychopaths and their servants like Lord Monckton will go to their graves preserving this system, this Royal Masonic Matrix which is at the heart of the NWO. Like any other issue, AGW is a controlled debate.

    The essence of controlled opposition boils down to this:

    1. First, lead the opposition at the top levels

    2. Never say who is really behind it.

    3. Never give any real solutions.

    4. Divide and conquer, pitting Left against Right as the phony debate.

    Then you are allowed to acknowledge all the truth and facts in the world that many others already knew, but act as if you are the leader of this movement and make lots of dramatic gestures. You are in like Flint and will be the darling of the movement and enjoy intense media coverage both pro and con. And it helps if you are a British Lord of course.

    Finally, I would reiterate the important fact that he was the ONE who planted the seed for the Hadley Climate Research Center (implicated in Climate Gate) as science adviser to Lady Thatcher.

    I do appreciate you trying hard to defend him, but it doesn’t fly in my book. There is too much fishy business going on with him. He stinks to high heaven. Peeuwee!

  453. :-)
    Well I’m not saying that he is a good guy, which should be clear from what i have said.

    The forced abdication of Edward VIII, didn’t remove the british monarchy, just made a replacement, which i guess is what Monckton is hinting at.

    Anyway i think we agree fully there is no goodniks in these organisations (SMOM & Venerable order etc.) unless they work to abdicate and destroy the order.

    Furthermore, i think our disagreement is more over the interpretation of the internal dynamics of the british empire establishment.

    So lets agree to agree in the large, then we have the right disagree in the small.

  454. DK,

    Disagreement is always welcome to me, as long as it’s fairly civil and thus you have been, so no problem. I don’t pretend to know all the answers, but I just speak my mind as to what I do know about. Otherwise, I try to keep quiet and keep learning. I just distrust anyone with a peerage title, who is involved in Freemasonry (not that Monckton is a mason, don’t know for sure yet, but wouldn’t be surprised), who has been knighted and is a member of a Chivalric order or who are involved at the elite levels of the Catholic Church, and I think that makes sense to most who have studied the NWO to any extent. In short, no one who is officially a member of the Aristocracy should be trusted. Besides, there are a great many excellent climatologists out there like Tim Ball and Anthony Watts who are not wealthy elitists, but who are rightful leaders. It is these and others like them who should be listened to and supported. Forget the flash of lordly saviors.

  455. PJWalker9/11 & DK:
    What do you guy think about Alan Watt making regular guest appearances on the Alex Jones show as of late? Do you think Watt is selling out?

  456. Bobo,

    I have sort of mulled that one for awhile. Watt has even said to callers several times that both AJ and RP are controlled opposition so it has always surprised me when he has gone on the show. Why does he go on Alex Jones when he has repeatedly condemned the “patriot business” and those who rant and rave, who “lose it” and those who etc, clearly referring to AJ as the worst of them all?

    By the way AJ also has Icke and Tsarion on the show which really starts to make it a three-ring circus doesn’t it?

    Of course there are those who say Alan Watt is controlled opposition too and I have kind of felt that way myself though hard to prove outright. He says some peculiar things. For example, he says he doesn’t believe in Christianity affirming the Jesus dying sun-god myth and the astro-theological nature of the Bible, yet he seems to think condescendingly (as do the secret orders) that the masses need it to keep them moral, so he is a big defender of the religion including Catholicism which he has stated is the only thing standing in the way of the NWO!

    Whoa, now, if we look into the Illuminati connections of the Catholic church, some believing that the NWO is run by the Jesuits and SMOM (neither of which dares he talk much about at all), then this is cause to question AW’s motives and connections. Another thing that bothers me is that he doesn’t really try to provide any solutions and sort of leaves us hanging in this gloomy place of inevitable doom approaching.

    As I have stated, I believe two sure signs of controlled opposition are 1) that you misdirect and spin regarding who is really behind the NWO, and 2) that you don’t give any real solutions and either a) give false hope or b) don’t give any hope at all which is what I feel AW does.

    Anyway, besides that, he does give a hell of a lot of good info, but if he is controlled opposition then what good is it?

    Another thing he did was take a lot of his info from this weirdo guy up in Canada, Glen Kealey, an Odinist who is awaiting the Ragnorak (Viking apocalypse).

    Glen Kealey Alan Watt’s Inspiration?
    http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=53718&sid=5ef0febc4bb654d1f4e5c3f2d5884dfb

    His biggest critics are at Outlaw Journalism

    http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2799&sid=c4b5ae02bef1d1c72106b5f07ecaeea4

    and Truth in 7 Minutes

    http://www.truthin7minutes.com/controlled-opposition.php
    http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=17245&cmd=tc

    This Markus Allan guy says that AW is lying about his situation up in Canada, that he has plenty of help, money and all the rest and has a pretty comfortable life up there with all the high tech equipment he needs, etc. But take what he says with a grain of salt too. Trust no one is the lesson unfortunately, except people that you know personally over time.

    Then from the Christian perspective is another critic, Troyspace
    http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/alan-watt-exposed/

    And of course Eric Jon Phelps has some criticism for him too calling him another Jesuit Coajuter. But then I, you and DK all have our differences with him too as you know. Troyspace is basically a follower of Phelps, yet who seems linked up with Leo Zagami, another disinfo clown.

    So basically, it’s all a big three ring circus in my opinion.

    Other problems

    1. On his Sep 26, 2008 show he told a caller that he knew of at least one 360 degree “Olympian”. The caller asked him to name this person and he said that he “could but I won’t”. Why won’t he name this person? After all, shouldn’t we know the Enemy?

    2. Says smoking isn’t bad and is a cure or prophylactic for the effects of chemtrails

    3. Guilt-trips listeners for money while saying money is bad. Always haranguing listeners for money, berating them for listening “for free” without sending in money. Money, money, money. The first 10-15 min are always consumed by money and how hard he works and slaves for us thanklessly. Sometimes he spends the entire hour on the subject.

    4. Sticks up for the Catholic Church historically, saying they were the good guys against the Albegensians and the Templars trying to investigate these occultic influences with the Inquisition. Is he defending the Inquisition? Seems like it. I heard him say the Inquisition was “well-intentioned” on his Nov 26, 2008 show. Says we shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    5. Always ends with “May your god or your gods be with you”. When most of his listeners are right-wing Christians, I am surprised none of them calls him out for this pantheistic reference “your gods” which I believe comes right out of Wicca (which he by the way has admitted to being involved in at least superficially).

    So is Allan Watt a confusion agent or is he merely confused? It is certainly one or the other, or could be both.

    I have more on him, but enough for now.

  457. Bobo,

    I must admit I know nothing about Alan Watt, and after reading what PJ has written about him, it sounds like he has caught the tail end of the universe, you know.
    Besides I regard Alex Jones as a total wanker, and seeing two wankers wank it out is not a pretty sight. :D

  458. Interesting developments about Blackwater

    REUTERS Jan 3, 2010
    IRAQ TO SUPPORT BLACKWATER LAWSUIT IN U.S. COURTS:

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) – Iraq will help victims of the 2007 shooting of civilians in Baghdad to file a U.S. lawsuit against employees of security firm Blackwater, an incident that turned a spotlight on the United States’ use of private contractors in war zones.

    Last week, a U.S. judge threw out charges against five guards accused of killing 14 Iraqi civilians at a Baghdad traffic circle, saying the defendants’ constitutional rights had been violated.

    Iraq called that decision “unacceptable and unjust” and, as well as supporting a lawsuit brought by Iraqis wounded in the shooting and families of those killed, it will ask the U.S. Justice Department to review the criminal case, government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said on Sunday.

    “The government will facilitate a lawsuit from Iraqi citizens to sue the guards and the company in a U.S. court,” he said.

    The guards from Blackwater Worldwide, now known as Xe Services, say they shot across a crowded intersection in self-defense after hearing an explosion and gunfire.

    But an Iraqi whose young son was killed in the incident said they indiscriminately fired at cars.

    The shooting strained relations between Washington and Baghdad and became a symbol for many Iraqis of foreigners’ disregard for their lives.

    Dabbagh said the court had “rejected the case on form, and not on its merits.”

    Following the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, private guards protecting U.S. personnel were given immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts. That ended with a bilateral agreement that took effect last year.

    The five guards were charged in a U.S. federal court with 14 counts of manslaughter, 20 of attempting to commit manslaughter and one weapons violation. A sixth Blackwater guard pleaded guilty to charges of voluntary manslaughter and attempting to commit manslaughter, and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

    Dabbagh said Iraq was conducting an investigation into whether current or former Blackwater employees were still operating in the country, including with other firms.

    He said Iraq did not want them on its soil, but did not say whether they would be expelled.

    “We do not want any member of this company, which committed more than one crime in Iraq, to work in Iraq.”

    In a speech to Iraq’s parliament on Sunday, lawmaker Omar al-Jubouri suggested a way the government could retaliate for the decision of the U.S. courts.

    “Ask the Iraqi courts to release all the (Iraqi) defendants … sentenced to death for killing Americans in Iraq, as an act of reciprocity with the U.S. judicial system,” he said.

    (Reporting by Mohammed Abbas; writing by Missy Ryan; editing by Angus MacSwan)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6020KB20100103

  459. Thanks for the news tip Bobo. Any further thoughts on Alan Watt?

  460. As far as Watt is concerned he’s probably a spin doctor like all the rest. He’ll present so-much of the truth/evidence then leave you in a cul-de-sac with no solutions to the problems.
    Plus, what good is he if he’s not willing to engage in the Zionist/Vatican conspiracy that controls and manipulates much of the western world.

    Pointing the finger just at freemasonry is just obfuscating the real facts insofar as the New World Order is concerned.
    I’ll admit I don’t listen to him that much, but he seems very weak on the political science aspects in the NWO.
    He mostly promulgates/discusses the psycological warfare aspects, but fails to make the proper connections, which leaves many people bewildered in the end.
    In other words, if you listen to him long enough without investigating the other aspects of the NWO you’ll probably lose sight of what they’re really doing and the laws that are being enacted to accomplish their goals.

    This is but an example of what I’m getting at:
    The way I ascertain it is he’s has his listeners up the freemason’s ass while the Hopenhagen Climate Change Summit transpires.
    The World Government then passes the law while his listeners are totally distracted by the sheer awe of the so-called unstoppable Illuminati. Which leaves his listeners inactive spectators as Walter Lippmann (advisor to President, Woodrow Wilson) would put it (and I’m Paraphrasing because I’m not sure if this is an actual quote of his since I’m unfamiliar with his work and never read any of his books.)
    “He (The American people participating in a Democracy) does not know what is happening, why it is happening, what ought to happen.”
    Lippman views democracy as a spectators sport for the simple fact that we are uniformed in most aspects of its function. And it is Watt’s responsibility to make sure his listeners are informed in all aspects of Government even if he doesn’t agree with certain issues. This is what he is entrusted with.
    Overall I find him a distraction.

    Most of the time he’s talking about symbols and signs in the entertainment industry, which is all well and good, But…..
    Basically he’s got you looking over yonder when the world behind you is about to beat you upside the noggin.
    He’s not well rounded enough for me, but then again few people are these days.

  461. Bobo,

    I got tired of listening to Alex Jones ranting and raving, so I switched to Alan Watt for about two years, after which I got most tired of hearing him badger listeners for money, but also noted that he said many of the same things over and over, mostly about the RIIA and the Huxleys. Of course, most of what he says is true. It’s what he doesn’t say that marks him as a spin-artist, re: Vatican and Zionism as you say. But as I pointed out, he is very much in favor of the Catholic Church and defends it, so that is the most blatant evidence. I have always felt that he had at least studied for some priesthood and it is very possible that he has some connection to one or another Catholic or even gnostic Christian order. Phelps might actually be right about him being a Jesuit coadjutor.

    Freemasonry is very much a big part of the NWO though. It’s just that ALL the various orders (see listed on the front page about 300 of them) arise from the same mystery religion root.

    But I agree, that we need to be more activist and political. It is just that working within the Federal system is not such a good idea since it gets us pretty much nowhere because they are on their agenda and nothing will stop it from within, by playing their game, which is why I promote the idea of secession, to just bust out from it and stand against it.

  462. More Blackwater Up Dates:

    “Blackwatergate”–Private Military Firm in Firestorm of Controversy over Involvements in Iraq, Afghanistan and Germany”

    democracynow.org/2010/1/8/blackwatergate_private_military_firm_in…

    “Judge Dismisses All Charges Against Blackwater Guards in Nisoor Square Massacre”

    democracynow.org/2010/1/4/judge_dismisses_all_charges_against…

    “Blackwater’s Secret War in Pakistan: Jeremy Scahill Reveals Private Military Firm Operating in Pakistan Under Covert Assassination and Kidnapping Program”

    i3.democracynow.org/2009/11/24/blackwaters_secret_war_in_pakistan_jeremy…

  463. I was wondering if anybody here has an idea of the question if Obama is a freemason.

    As I understand he has some tight relations to the Chicago board of trade, and to ppl like Tony Rezko and the super rich Naum Auchi in London, which were part of his housing dealings with slumlord Rezko in Chacago.

    Now in the mass media worldwide, Obama’s deathcare reform is treated as if it was a blessing for the american population, but doesn’t talk about the rationing board ruling over and above the state in perpetuity and all the Wall Street private healthcare insurance money that Obama is protecting.

    It seems that this ‘healthcare’ reform has the lions paw print of the so-called NWO, really the NWD (New World Disorder).

  464. All indicators point to that.

    Ron Paul and Freemasonry
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/ron-paul-and-freemasonry/

    Also look into the people he endorses for office. I think that tells you a lot about him.

    Did Ron Paul Sell Out? John Bush gets a surpising interview!

    His son Rand Paul supports the endless war in Afghanistan which is in line with Ron Paul’s vote to give Bush special powers to launch the war in the first damn place based on the Operation 9/11 psyop that he still dismisses. Fuck Ron Paul! Wake up and grow up people!

    Just knowing that he is a 30-year DC lifer/insider who is up on mass-mind control media three times a day, who flashes the ‘iloveyou/satan’ sign who never met a mason he didn’t like, who is the number one masonic politician according to top masonic blogs..etc is enough evidence for me that he is masonic controlled opposition.

    What makes it worse is that he deliberately hides these facts from his followers who are like mushrooms; fed a lot of shit and kept in the dark.

    I firmly believe that Ron Paul (like Dick Cheney who hid his membership in the CFR from his constituents) is a crypto-mason carrying on the Great Work, the Novus Ordo Seclorum, by controlling and diverting the opposition.

    Ron Paul is the lowest of them all in my opinion because of the absolute treachery he has committed against many well-meaning freedom-loving people.

  465. PJ Walker9/11
    More Up Dates On BLACKWATER:

    Justice Dept. to appeal Blackwater ruling

    Washington Post Article: By Ernesto Londoño
    Saturday, January 23, 2010; 4:00 PM
    BAGHDAD — The Justice Department will appeal the dismissal of an indictment against five Blackwater Worldwide guards charged in the 2007 fatal shooting of 14 Iraqis, Vice President Biden told Iraqi officials Saturday.
    “While we fully respect the independence and integrity of the U.S. judicial system, we were disappointed by the judge’s decision to dismiss the indictment,” Biden said after meeting with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani.
    Legal experts say that overturning U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina’s 90-page ruling is a long shot because he made very specific factual findings about errors by investigators and prosecutors who worked on the case.
    Under the law, the appellate court would have to find that Urbina’s findings were “clearly erroneous,” in order to reinstate the indictment — a threshold lawyers call implausible in this case.
    “By announcing this decision in Iraq, through an elected official, the United States makes clear that it has decided to do what is politically expedient, rather than what is just based on Judge Urbina’s unshakeable findings of prosecutorial misconduct and egregious violations,” Steven McCool, an attorney for Donald Ball, one of the guards, said in a statement.
    A team of guards employed by Blackwater — which changed its name to Xe Services after the ensuing deluge of negative publicity — opened fire in a crowded square on Sept. 16, 2007, while protecting U.S. diplomats. The Dec. 31 dismissal of the indictment enraged Iraqis.
    Biden’s overnight trip to Baghdad coincided with a simmering controversy over the dismissal of more than 500 candidates from the upcoming parliamentary election. Disappointing barred candidates who had hoped the vice president would weigh in on their behalf,